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13 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Given the response I've seen in the typical AOC threads here, this is a valid issue. I don't agree with everything the author is asserting, but the point is certainly taken. I don't know that sexism is the primary driver of what is going on. Seems to be that ad hominem attacks are on the rise everywhere, and certainly ad hominem attacks are all over the internet and online against AOC. Against others it's sometimes more centered around race or age. It come's up with Trump a lot too. Attacking the person instead of the position. Even somehow comes up with Beto in this seemingly unrelated thread. No one is immune.  

 

  Anyway, I don't really mind it. Typically if you have a winning argument, you don't have to resort to logical fallacy to convince someone of your position. To do so is just a round about way of proceeding with the argument while simultaneously conceding the argument. It's quite transparent.

 

    

 

 

You do know that there are dumb folks out there from all 57 genders right?  AOC just happens to be an example from one of those categories.

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6 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

If you're gonna take the time to label me, don't just stop at 2 or 3.  Throw in a xenophobic, misogynist,  or any other "ists" that come to mind.  Please.

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2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

You do know that there are dumb folks out there from all 57 genders right?  AOC just happens to be an example from one of those categories.

Would that be some people did somebody?

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

     You appear to have used an ad hominem argument  to attempt to refute what I said about people using too many ad hominem arguments? Interesting approach.

Hard to do it any other way.  Otherwise, if someone is in a protected category as defined by the Democrats then they are above criticism lest the person criticizing is labeled in a derogatory manner.  That is just unacceptable in what should be an equal world.  If I criticize AOC for being less than intelligent, it has nothing to do with her gender, but rather the words she speaks that appear to be very uninformed, but instead I am labeled a misogynist, or sexist, or racist (apparently AOC ticks a couple of protected categories).  This is why I cannot support the Democrat Party and their identity politics.  Others will say that both sides engage in identity politics, but when I asked for proof deflection occurred.  In my eyes, there is one political party in this country that works to keep us divided by political identites while claiming tolerance and I cannot stomach that.  

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AOC plus inclusivity and diversity when she preaches the exact opposite is good for a laugh.

 

I think she was probably a pretty good bar maid, her politics is another matter and that is the subject of discussion.

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38 minutes ago, Boiler said:

AOC plus inclusivity and diversity when she preaches the exact opposite is good for a laugh.

 

I think she was probably a pretty good bar maid, her politics is another matter and that is the subject of discussion.

I happen to think AOC is pretty and smart.  She could really go places if she tries hard enough.

 

I also think she got most of her political ideas and talking points from her time in the above profession.

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13 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

I happen to think AOC is pretty and smart.  She could really go places if she tries hard enough.

 

I also think she got most of her political ideas and talking points from her time in the above profession.

She is the one that said (my paraphrasing) that the Dems had to take back the three branches of government, the House, the Senate, and the Presidency, right?

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She is the one that said (my paraphrasing) that the Dems had to take back the three branches of government, the House, the Senate, and the Presidency, right?

 

  Ocasio-Cortez said Democrats should "work our butts off to make sure that we take back all three chambers of Congress — rather, all three chambers of government: the presidency, the Senate and the House."

 

  

 

  

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Hard to do it any other way.  Otherwise, if someone is in a protected category as defined by the Democrats then they are above criticism lest the person criticizing is labeled in a derogatory manner.  That is just unacceptable in what should be an equal world.  If I criticize AOC for being less than intelligent, it has nothing to do with her gender, but rather the words she speaks that appear to be very uninformed, but instead I am labeled a misogynist, or sexist, or racist (apparently AOC ticks a couple of protected categories).  This is why I cannot support the Democrat Party and their identity politics.  Others will say that both sides engage in identity politics, but when I asked for proof deflection occurred.  In my eyes, there is one political party in this country that works to keep us divided by political identites while claiming tolerance and I cannot stomach that.  

 

   There are two political parties that engage in identity politics with the goal of keeping us divided. Like many people, you only see one you want to see. That is your mistake. 

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8 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

Yes she did.  Apparently, SCOTUS is a chamber of the government of another country.

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6 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   There are two political parties that engage in identity politics with the goal of keeping us divided. Like many people, you only see one you want to see. That is your mistake. 

Like I asked the other person, please provide actual evidence of the GOP creating and orchestrating political identities?  Now maintaining demographic information is not the same thing, just a hint.  For the Dems, the best example is Stacey Abrams' (possible VP hopeful) words.

 

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/stacey-abrams-full-embrace-identity-politics-recipe-disaster

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18 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Like I asked the other person, please provide actual evidence of the GOP creating and orchestrating political identities?  Now maintaining demographic information is not the same thing, just a hint.  For the Dems, the best example is Stacey Abrams' (possible VP hopeful) words.

 

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/stacey-abrams-full-embrace-identity-politics-recipe-disaster

 

   Sure, then groundhog day will be over and Bill Murray can finally go home. 

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