MMR vaccine without rubella

[JP5380 4]

Hello,

 

So my wife and I are going for our interview later in September. It looks like she had all the required immunizations, except for MMR, rubella is marked as "D" not routinely available. Her original medical exam was performed overseas. I'm trying to decide whether or not this requires us to go see a civil surgeon before her interview.

 

 

[Fe.Ta 874]

26 minutes ago, JP5380 said:

Hello,

 

So my wife and I are going for our interview later in September. It looks like she had all the required immunizations, except for MMR, rubella is marked as "D" not routinely available. Her original medical exam was performed overseas. I'm trying to decide whether or not this requires us to go see a civil surgeon before her interview.

 

 

According to the USCIS website, all vaccines must be certified by a civil surgeon.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/news/questions-and-answers/vaccination-requirements

 

So, you have the option of getting it with the civil surgeon (sometimes they themselves don't have it) or you can get it at the local Health Department or pharmacy and then take the documentation to the civil surgeon so it can be certified.  However, please note, the Form I-693 is good for 60 days from the day the doctor signs it, so make sure you have everything else in order so you can file on time.

 

Also, please note, most civil surgeons will require a medical exam before they do the form.  We are going through this ourselves, even though my husband got his medical back home.

 

Hope it helps!

Edited August 29, 2019 by Fe.Ta
Added Information

[K1visaHopeful 2,817]

If your DS3025 is marked with "not routinely available" and your DS3025 is marked as complete in the bottom left corner you received a waiver for that vaccine.

 

See the policy manual:

https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-b-chapter-9

4. Vaccines Not Routinely Available Abroad

“National vaccination shortage” principles do not apply overseas. In the context of overseas vaccinations, the term panel physicians use to indicate the unavailability of a vaccine is “not routinely available.” Therefore, if the adjustment applicant is permitted to use the vaccination assessment completed overseas, ^[11] then officers should not find the applicant inadmissible solely based on the lack of the vaccine(s) that is “not routinely available.” Officers should also not issue an RFE for corrective action. USCIS will grant a blanket waiver in these cases.

Edited August 29, 2019 by K1visaHopeful

[K1visaHopeful 2,817]

45 minutes ago, Fe.Ta said:

According to the USCIS website, all vaccines must be certified by a civil surgeon.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/news/questions-and-answers/vaccination-requirements

 

So, you have the option of getting it with the civil surgeon (sometimes they themselves don't have it) or you can get it at the local Health Department or pharmacy and then take the documentation to the civil surgeon so it can be certified.  However, please note, the Form I-693 is good for 60 days from the day the doctor signs it, so make sure you have everything else in order so you can file on time.

 

Also, please note, most civil surgeons will require a medical exam before they do the form.  We are going through this ourselves, even though my husband got his medical back home.

 

Hope it helps!

The I693 does not pertain to K1s who completed their medical abroad, have filed AOS within 1 year of their medical date and who have a DS3025 marked as complete. You are quoting the instructions for AOS applicants who have never received a medical or who refused to do the vaccines overseas (thus their DS3025 would not be marked as complete). There are waivers that apply in most situations where vaccines are not available abroad or where conditions prevent you from getting certain vaccines.

Edited August 29, 2019 by K1visaHopeful

[JP5380 4]

22 hours ago, K1visaHopeful said:

If your DS3025 is marked with "not routinely available" and your DS3025 is marked as complete in the bottom left corner you received a waiver for that vaccine.

 

See the policy manual:

https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-8-part-b-chapter-9

4. Vaccines Not Routinely Available Abroad

“National vaccination shortage” principles do not apply overseas. In the context of overseas vaccinations, the term panel physicians use to indicate the unavailability of a vaccine is “not routinely available.” Therefore, if the adjustment applicant is permitted to use the vaccination assessment completed overseas, ^[11] then officers should not find the applicant inadmissible solely based on the lack of the vaccine(s) that is “not routinely available.” Officers should also not issue an RFE for corrective action. USCIS will grant a blanket waiver in these cases.

Yes, her DS3025 is marked "not routinely available" for Rubella. It corresponds to their "Blanket Waiver Legend." As for being marked "complete" in the bottom right hand corner, there is a box checked that says, " K Visa applicant voluntarily completed vaccination requirements."  Is this what you are referring to?

Edited August 30, 2019 by JP5380

[JP5380 4]

22 hours ago, Fe.Ta said:

According to the USCIS website, all vaccines must be certified by a civil surgeon.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/news/questions-and-answers/vaccination-requirements

 

So, you have the option of getting it with the civil surgeon (sometimes they themselves don't have it) or you can get it at the local Health Department or pharmacy and then take the documentation to the civil surgeon so it can be certified.  However, please note, the Form I-693 is good for 60 days from the day the doctor signs it, so make sure you have everything else in order so you can file on time.

 

Also, please note, most civil surgeons will require a medical exam before they do the form.  We are going through this ourselves, even though my husband got his medical back home.

 

Hope it helps!

Yes, I've been calling about civil surgeons today, and all the offices are requiring a medical exam too. And they are asking about $400 for one exam and we potentially need two.

[Fe.Ta 874]

11 minutes ago, JP5380 said:

Yes, I've been calling about civil surgeons today, and all the offices are requiring a medical exam too. And they are asking about $400 for one exam and we potentially need two.

Did they explain to you why you would need two? That makes no sense to me. Also, did you ask if they consider yours incomplete? Maybe the other posts (that corrected me) is right and you don’t need either. What info did they give you?

[JP5380 4]

3 minutes ago, Fe.Ta said:

Did they explain to you why you would need two? That makes no sense to me. Also, did you ask if they consider yours incomplete? Maybe the other posts (that corrected me) is right and you don’t need either. What info did they give you?

We would need one for my wife and one for her son, correct? And who would I ask about our vaccinations being incomplete? USCIS? We can't get a civil surgeon's opinion without paying $400 per peson

Edited August 30, 2019 by JP5380

[Fe.Ta 874]

43 minutes ago, JP5380 said:

We would need one for my wife and one for her son, correct? And who would I ask about our vaccinations being incomplete? USCIS? We can't get a civil surgeon's opinion without paying $400 per peson

Oh, that makes sense. I didn’t know there was a child. I would start with the reference the other user posted where it says that lack of vaccine availability does not mark it as incomplete. If that guide does not answer your question, then visit your local USCIS office. You can always try to call them, but it is hard to get through. Last option, totally your decision and not as recommended, would be to submit everything you have as is and just wait to see if you get a RFE or not. If you do, then do as they ask, but it will delay paperwork. Totally your call.

[K1visaHopeful 2,817]

2 hours ago, JP5380 said:

Yes, her DS3025 is marked "not routinely available" for Rubella. It corresponds to their "Blanket Waiver Legend." As for being marked "complete" in the bottom right hand corner, there is a box checked that says, " K Visa applicant voluntarily completed vaccination requirements."  Is this what you are referring to?

Yes, exactly. She has completed the vaccination requirements and will need to do nothing further.

[K1visaHopeful 2,817]

1 hour ago, Fe.Ta said:

Oh, that makes sense. I didn’t know there was a child. I would start with the reference the other user posted where it says that lack of vaccine availability does not mark it as incomplete. If that guide does not answer your question, then visit your local USCIS office. You can always try to call them, but it is hard to get through. Last option, totally your decision and not as recommended, would be to submit everything you have as is and just wait to see if you get a RFE or not. If you do, then do as they ask, but it will delay paperwork. Totally your call.

You cannot get an RFE for a medical exam prior to the AOS intervew as the medical exam documents are not required to be submitted with the I485. They can be brought to the interview. The I485 instructions state that under the medical exam section.

[Fe.Ta 874]

8 minutes ago, K1visaHopeful said:

You cannot get an RFE for a medical exam prior to the AOS intervew as the medical exam documents are not required to be submitted with the I485. They can be brought to the interview. The I485 instructions state that under the medical exam section.

I meant to say if they were to question it in general. Either way I kept pointing him to the post you shared. No need to constantly quote me with corrections. You can help him.

[K1visaHopeful 2,817]

1 hour ago, Fe.Ta said:

I meant to say if they were to question it in general. Either way I kept pointing him to the post you shared. No need to constantly quote me with corrections. You can help him.

I did but he isnt the only one reading this. If others read that they could get an RFE for not submitting a medical exam with I485 that would be misleading. Pretty sure I did help him above.

[JP5380 4]

18 hours ago, K1visaHopeful said:

Yes, exactly. She has completed the vaccination requirements and will need to do nothing further.

Thanks for the advice. This is what I was starting to conclude from reading other posts.

[Pitaya 2,577]

We were in a similar position with my wife and stepson. I was able to quickly add my wife to my health insurance, even without a SSN....had to do a little sweet-talking with the HR folks. Anyway, her health insurance coverage helped soften the double barrel civil surgeon charges for two medical exams. YMMV.