Mexican former foreign minister says Immigration bill is a "very good deal for Mexico"

[homesick_american 1]

Good for Mexico=bad for America

In this case, yes.

What would be good for both countries is for Mexico to get its sh!t together.

[Captain Ewok 1,901]

Guys I would ask that we keep this down please. It is one thing to oppose legislation or other perspectives. It is one thing to oppose illegal immigration. It is another to attack with a broad brush another country or group of people because you disagree with people from their country or group (that may not speak for everyone in that group).

Thanks.

[CarlaM 0]

Guys I would ask that we keep this down please. It is one thing to oppose legislation or other perspectives. It is one thing to oppose illegal immigration. It is another to attack with a broad brush another country or group of people because you disagree with people from their country or group (that may not speak for everyone in that group).

Thanks.

[CarlaM 0]

He qualifies for the "No shite Sherlock" award.

Completely wrong, the "No shite Sherlock" award is for the U.S. Senate, former mexican president Vicente Fox propoused exactly the same years ago.

Edited June 5, 2007 by carla-justin

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

He qualifies for the "No shite Sherlock" award.

Completely wrong, the "No shite Sherlock" award is for the U.S. Senate, former mexican president Vicente Fox propoused exactly the same years ago.

Fox proposed what? The amnesty that is now making it's way through Congress? That would be yet another reason to oppose it. Vincente Fox doesn't get to propose ####### in the US. He should've concerned himself with getting his country in order and make it a livable place for his people. How did he treat those that illegally crossed into Mexico from South of the Border and where's the Mexican people marching for the rights of those people. Fcuking hypocrites!

[CarlaM 0]

He qualifies for the "No shite Sherlock" award.

Completely wrong, the "No shite Sherlock" award is for the U.S. Senate, former mexican president Vicente Fox propoused exactly the same years ago.

Fox proposed what? The amnesty that is now making it's way through Congress? That would be yet another reason to oppose it. Vincente Fox doesn't get to propose ####### in the US. He should've concerned himself with getting his country in order and make it a livable place for his people. How did he treat those that illegally crossed into Mexico from South of the Border and where's the Mexican people marching for the rights of those people. Fcuking hypocrites!

If you realize I didnt give my opinion about it and I wont do it.

I am mexican and I am proud of it! If you want to call us fcuking hypocrites that is fine, you have the right to speak your mind out. I just pointed out you made a wrong statement. I think whatever your position is about any matter you should get well informed before speaking out your mind.

[pedroh 21]

oh, and btw, that aztlan pic.. even though some wannabe illegals use that excuse, the aztlan movement was started strictly by chicanos, who are already 2nd or 3rd generation americans, not aliens.. so is not the mexicans who want the 'whites' out of the 'Aztlan region', its the same Americans

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

He qualifies for the "No shite Sherlock" award.

Completely wrong, the "No shite Sherlock" award is for the U.S. Senate, former mexican president Vicente Fox propoused exactly the same years ago.

Fox proposed what? The amnesty that is now making it's way through Congress? That would be yet another reason to oppose it. Vincente Fox doesn't get to propose ####### in the US. He should've concerned himself with getting his country in order and make it a livable place for his people. How did he treat those that illegally crossed into Mexico from South of the Border and where's the Mexican people marching for the rights of those people. Fcuking hypocrites!

If you realize I didnt give my opinion about it and I wont do it.

I am mexican and I am proud of it! If you want to call us fcuking hypocrites that is fine, you have the right to speak your mind out. I just pointed out you made a wrong statement. I think whatever your position is about any matter you should get well informed before speaking out your mind.

Well informed about what? What Voincente Fox ever said? He's a two faced ####### demanding for his people from us what he refused to afford those that invaded his country from the south. Get this: What any of the corrupt Mexican politicians says is absolutely NONE of my concern. I don't live in Mexico nor do I intend to do so. Vincente Fox is completely irrelevant to most of the world, including me.

[CarlaM 0]

He qualifies for the "No shite Sherlock" award.

Completely wrong, the "No shite Sherlock" award is for the U.S. Senate, former mexican president Vicente Fox propoused exactly the same years ago.

Fox proposed what? The amnesty that is now making it's way through Congress? That would be yet another reason to oppose it. Vincente Fox doesn't get to propose ####### in the US. He should've concerned himself with getting his country in order and make it a livable place for his people. How did he treat those that illegally crossed into Mexico from South of the Border and where's the Mexican people marching for the rights of those people. Fcuking hypocrites!

If you realize I didnt give my opinion about it and I wont do it.

I am mexican and I am proud of it! If you want to call us fcuking hypocrites that is fine, you have the right to speak your mind out. I just pointed out you made a wrong statement. I think whatever your position is about any matter you should get well informed before speaking out your mind.

Well informed about what? What Voincente Fox ever said? He's a two faced ####### demanding for his people from us what he refused to afford those that invaded his country from the south. Get this: What any of the corrupt Mexican politicians says is absolutely NONE of my concern. I don't live in Mexico nor do I intend to do so. Vincente Fox is completely irrelevant to most of the world, including me.

It is impossible make someone like you understand and be reasonable. If you want to be lound and disrespectful, fine; a fight takes 2 and i am not in the mood to play your game. Have a nice day.

Edited June 5, 2007 by carla-justin

[natty bumppo 297]

He qualifies for the "No shite Sherlock" award.

Completely wrong, the "No shite Sherlock" award is for the U.S. Senate, former mexican president Vicente Fox propoused exactly the same years ago.

Fox proposed what? The amnesty that is now making it's way through Congress? That would be yet another reason to oppose it. Vincente Fox doesn't get to propose ####### in the US. He should've concerned himself with getting his country in order and make it a livable place for his people. How did he treat those that illegally crossed into Mexico from South of the Border and where's the Mexican people marching for the rights of those people. Fcuking hypocrites!

If you realize I didnt give my opinion about it and I wont do it.

I am mexican and I am proud of it! If you want to call us fcuking hypocrites that is fine, you have the right to speak your mind out. I just pointed out you made a wrong statement. I think whatever your position is about any matter you should get well informed before speaking out your mind.

Well informed about what? What Voincente Fox ever said? He's a two faced ####### demanding for his people from us what he refused to afford those that invaded his country from the south. Get this: What any of the corrupt Mexican politicians says is absolutely NONE of my concern. I don't live in Mexico nor do I intend to do so. Vincente Fox is completely irrelevant to most of the world, including me.

It is impossible make someone like you understand and be reasonable. If you want to be lound and disrespectful, fine; a fight takes 2 and i am not in the mood to play your game. Have a nice day.

I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts and examples about how Fox ...

has helped his country grow into a good place for his people to work ...

been kind to other peoples entering the southern border ...

[Ban Hammer 13,678]

oh, and btw, that aztlan pic.. even though some wannabe illegals use that excuse, the aztlan movement was started strictly by chicanos, who are already 2nd or 3rd generation americans, not aliens.. so is not the mexicans who want the 'whites' out of the 'Aztlan region', its the same Americans

i'm aware of that. i'm also aware that they identify more with mexico than they do the usa

[CarlaM 0]

He qualifies for the "No shite Sherlock" award.

Completely wrong, the "No shite Sherlock" award is for the U.S. Senate, former mexican president Vicente Fox propoused exactly the same years ago.

Fox proposed what? The amnesty that is now making it's way through Congress? That would be yet another reason to oppose it. Vincente Fox doesn't get to propose ####### in the US. He should've concerned himself with getting his country in order and make it a livable place for his people. How did he treat those that illegally crossed into Mexico from South of the Border and where's the Mexican people marching for the rights of those people. Fcuking hypocrites!

If you realize I didnt give my opinion about it and I wont do it.

I am mexican and I am proud of it! If you want to call us fcuking hypocrites that is fine, you have the right to speak your mind out. I just pointed out you made a wrong statement. I think whatever your position is about any matter you should get well informed before speaking out your mind.

Well informed about what? What Voincente Fox ever said? He's a two faced ####### demanding for his people from us what he refused to afford those that invaded his country from the south. Get this: What any of the corrupt Mexican politicians says is absolutely NONE of my concern. I don't live in Mexico nor do I intend to do so. Vincente Fox is completely irrelevant to most of the world, including me.

It is impossible make someone like you understand and be reasonable. If you want to be lound and disrespectful, fine; a fight takes 2 and i am not in the mood to play your game. Have a nice day.

I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts and examples about how Fox ...

has helped his country grow into a good place for his people to work ...

been kind to other peoples entering the southern border ...

When the hell did i say something about Fox being a good president or what has done it was right??? The only thing i did it was to correct ET-US2004 about whose idea the immigration bill was. I guess i wasnt clear enough.

Edited June 5, 2007 by carla-justin

[LaL 418]

<<<< inserts a chill reminder >>>>

Edited June 5, 2007 by lal_brandow

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

He qualifies for the "No shite Sherlock" award.

Completely wrong, the "No shite Sherlock" award is for the U.S. Senate, former mexican president Vicente Fox propoused exactly the same years ago.

Fox proposed what? The amnesty that is now making it's way through Congress? That would be yet another reason to oppose it. Vincente Fox doesn't get to propose ####### in the US. He should've concerned himself with getting his country in order and make it a livable place for his people. How did he treat those that illegally crossed into Mexico from South of the Border and where's the Mexican people marching for the rights of those people. Fcuking hypocrites!

If you realize I didnt give my opinion about it and I wont do it.

I am mexican and I am proud of it! If you want to call us fcuking hypocrites that is fine, you have the right to speak your mind out. I just pointed out you made a wrong statement. I think whatever your position is about any matter you should get well informed before speaking out your mind.

Well informed about what? What Voincente Fox ever said? He's a two faced ####### demanding for his people from us what he refused to afford those that invaded his country from the south. Get this: What any of the corrupt Mexican politicians says is absolutely NONE of my concern. I don't live in Mexico nor do I intend to do so. Vincente Fox is completely irrelevant to most of the world, including me.

It is impossible make someone like you understand and be reasonable. If you want to be lound and disrespectful, fine; a fight takes 2 and i am not in the mood to play your game. Have a nice day.

I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts and examples about how Fox ...

has helped his country grow into a good place for his people to work ...

been kind to other peoples entering the southern border ...

When the hell did i say something about Fox being a good president or what has done it was right??? The only thing i did it was to correct ET-US2004 about whose idea the immigration bill was. I guess i wasnt clear enough.

Interesting: I never said anything about whose idea this disaster of a proposed amnesty was.

[almaty 19]