Beware of accidentally finding oneself on Medicaid.

[Kim and Joseph 36]

6 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

That is his deduction for paying into medicaid.  Just like Social Security.

So no public charge there?

[Just Paul 4,595]

2 minutes ago, C and L said:

So no public charge there?

It should be a deduction for Medicare.  

[SalishSea 17,824]

26 minutes ago, C and L said:

So no public charge there?

No public charge.  He is paying into a system that he will benefit from legitimately when he reaches a certain age or otherwise qualifies.

[The_Empyrean 733]

"Evil Trump", "Torturing our UNDOCUMENTED immigrants". No, he's trying to make them accountable for their actions of breaking immigration laws. What the hell is even "undocumented" immigrant. Illegal. Jeezz..

This law seems fair, obviously it will be turned into discrimination and fought. But the law itself is great and will filter out risky immigrants. In my mind, thats a good step forward. 

Fun fact, more people were deported per year when Obama was in the office, vs Trump. Didn't hear anyone calling Obama out..

[beloved_dingo 1,976]

2 hours ago, The_Empyrean said:

"Evil Trump", "Torturing our UNDOCUMENTED immigrants". No, he's trying to make them accountable for their actions of breaking immigration laws. What the hell is even "undocumented" immigrant. Illegal. Jeezz..

This law seems fair, obviously it will be turned into discrimination and fought. But the law itself is great and will filter out risky immigrants. In my mind, thats a good step forward. 

Fun fact, more people were deported per year when Obama was in the office, vs Trump. Didn't hear anyone calling Obama out..

I don't think we can really judge how fair it is until a) we can read the whole 800 page "rule" and b) we see how it is implemented and used. A rule can be fair on the surface, but can be used in unfair ways, regardless of who the president is. 

[The_Empyrean 733]

4 minutes ago, beloved_dingo said:

I don't think we can really judge how fair it is until a) we can read the whole 800 page "rule" and b) we see how it is implemented and used. A rule can be fair on the surface, but can be used in unfair ways, regardless of who the president is. 

at this very moment most of the immigration rules aren't fair , mostly for those who do it legally. If it's unfair to illegals, it isn't unfair, thats how it should be. 

I agree, it's difficult to say unless we get to see the whole rule, but current situation is benefiting the "undocumented" ones, not the ones that come here by legal means. It's upside-down. 

[Zach2015 211]

I don't even understand why this is an issue. I am agreeing with my Affidavit of Support that my future wife will not be on the system and I do not see anything wrong with that. We have veterans and elderly people who can't get the help they need because too many people with their hands out. Immigrant or not.

[AdreannN 1]

When my husband and I first came to US on a spousal visa I had applied for WIC and food stamps because well we were just starting out and we were pregnant so we wanted to make sure I got all the nutrition I needed while we got ourselves on our feet. They told us my husband was not qualified for benefits and we said fine we get that and so I started receiving benefits. A few months later they told is they "accidently" were giving us benefits that included my husband and we had to pay back a good sum of money. I was shocked to say the least about trumps new law and a little scared because it wasn't our fault it was the state's mistake. Will this affect my husbands citizenship? He has been the soul provider for us for almost 2 years and we are very proud of this achievement. We are also no longer on any benefits because we decided it's not worth the risk. 

[geowrian 22,337]

2 minutes ago, AdreannN said:

A few months later they told is they "accidently" were giving us benefits that included my husband and we had to pay back a good sum of money. I was shocked to say the least about trumps new law and a little scared because it wasn't our fault it was the state's mistake. Will this affect my husbands citizenship? He has been the soul provider for us for almost 2 years and we are very proud of this achievement. We are also no longer on any benefits because we decided it's not worth the risk. 

No laws have been changed. A rule/regulation was.

That incident should not hurt his citizenship application - both because it's paid back/being paid back and was due to a mistake, and because past use is not being held against somebody.

[AdreannN 1]

4 hours ago, The_Empyrean said:

"Evil Trump", "Torturing our UNDOCUMENTED immigrants". No, he's trying to make them accountable for their actions of breaking immigration laws. What the hell is even "undocumented" immigrant. Illegal. Jeezz..

This law seems fair, obviously it will be turned into discrimination and fought. But the law itself is great and will filter out risky immigrants. In my mind, thats a good step forward. 

Fun fact, more people were deported per year when Obama was in the office, vs Trump. Didn't hear anyone calling Obama out..

My husband and I agree 100 percent with Trump enforcing illegal immigrants to be responsible. We have faught like hell to do everything legally and we definitely feel how unfair it is to just let illegal immigrants get away with using the system. I do understand how hard it is in other countries I get it. I lived it but still i had to obey the laws there to.

[AdreannN 1]

4 minutes ago, geowrian said:

No laws have been changed. A rule/regulation was.

That incident should not hurt his citizenship application - both because it's paid back/being paid back and was due to a mistake, and because past use is not being held against somebody.

Oh ok that's good to know. I'll do more research in it then so I can be more informed. Thanks so much for your reply!

[Highmystic 234]

23 hours ago, Balamban said:

From a buzzfeed article, “A new rule being drafted by the Trump administration would weaponize the Affordable Care Act and other social programs against immigrants, potentially affecting millions.”

 

Title of article: “The Trump Administration Could Reject Legal Status For Immigrants If They Used Food Stamps Or Obamacare”

 

using one or more public benefits. Use of any such benefit in the three previous years would be weighed as a negative factor.”

From what I heard on the radio news,  it is limited to those who are a public charge for 12 months in Aggregate in any 36 month period, so If I understand this, an immigrant can get SNAP 3 month here, 4 months there, within that 36 month period.  It "allows" immigrants to be limited public charge.

 

 

[pinano 49]

I've found this to be a good distillation of the updated rule, with particular focus on health services:

https://www.kff.org/disparities-policy/fact-sheet/public-charge-policies-for-immigrants-implications-for-health-coverage/

 

We have used CHIP for our daughter when she was a newborn, and did so for about a semester, while I was a grad student in the US. So naturally, I was worried, given that can be understood to be under Medicaid. 

 

Luckily, the rule stipulates the immigrant must have been the beneficiary, in addition to explicitly excluding children (by applying the Medicaid criteria to adults 21 and over). Phew...

 

 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

11 minutes ago, pinano said:

I've found this to be a good distillation of the updated rule, with particular focus on health services:

https://www.kff.org/disparities-policy/fact-sheet/public-charge-policies-for-immigrants-implications-for-health-coverage/

 

We have used CHIP for our daughter when she was a newborn, and did so for about a semester, while I was a grad student in the US. So naturally, I was worried, given that can be understood to be under Medicaid. 

 

Luckily, the rule stipulates the immigrant must have been the beneficiary, in addition to explicitly excluding children (by applying the Medicaid criteria to adults 21 and over). Phew...

 

 

Yeah I argued on Reddit about this very same thing. It says for the beneficiary to be on Medicaid but does not say anything about the USC children which is a good thing. 

[azblk 338]

8 hours ago, The_Empyrean said:

"Evil Trump", "Torturing our UNDOCUMENTED immigrants". No, he's trying to make them accountable for their actions of breaking immigration laws. What the hell is even "undocumented" immigrant. Illegal. Jeezz..

This law seems fair, obviously it will be turned into discrimination and fought. But the law itself is great and will filter out risky immigrants. In my mind, thats a good step forward. 

Fun fact, more people were deported per year when Obama was in the office, vs Trump. Didn't hear anyone calling Obama out..

Get your facts straight this new rule has absolutely nothing to do with illegal immigration. And yes Obama was called out about the record number of deportations when he was president but going from your statement you didn't hear it either because of your politics or willful ignorance.

 

You started with a rant about illegal immigrants when every single person that will be stopped by this new rule is a legal immigrant ( not illegal).

 

This is about one thing and only one thing reducing legal immigration. Less than 5% of all welfare is spent on legal immigrants who make up about 12% of the population.

 

I find it very amusing how so many immigrants here are willing to support these kinds of rule changes as long as it does affect them personally. How you think you are more deserving because you wealthier than the person being denied.