Final public charge rule

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

I think when we start getting into the realm of credit history... it's going way too far into USC lives. I am a housewife, so I didn't have any credit history until my husband immigrated and built our credit. I was previously independent, cash only type of gal. Our cosponsor had a very good credit history, and we also both had savings, but I think the government delving into this is going too far. It tells you very little if anything. It is also still not a law that requires a person to have health insurance in this country.. that was pretty much the point of taking away the 'mandate' too. I certainly had health insurance when we originally applied for the K1, but he wasn't eligible to be on that until after marriage.

I second this as well because when I petitioned my now wife my credit score was in the mid-400s. Now 7 years later it's in the 700s.if they used the credit score model I would have been denied in 2012.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

http://lallegal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/I944-FRM-PubCharge-60Day-09262018.pdf

 

Every I-485 applicant will have to fill this out in addition to the I-864.

 

New form “Affidavit of Self Sufficiency”

 

I love this.  This is long, long overdue.  

Edited August 12, 2019 by Nitas_man

[Just Paul 4,595]

3 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

http://lallegal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/I944-FRM-PubCharge-60Day-09262018.pdf

 

Every I-485 applicant will have to fill this out in addition to the I-864.

 

New form “Affidavit of Self Sufficiency”

 

I love this.  This is long, long overdue.

Wow  15 pages - correct in that it is long overdue.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

6 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

http://lallegal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/I944-FRM-PubCharge-60Day-09262018.pdf

 

Every I-485 applicant will have to fill this out in addition to the I-864.

 

New form “Affidavit of Self Sufficiency”

 

I love this.  This is long, long overdue.  

So do I. I told my wife that I can't wait for the Filipino N. American news tonight because they will talk about this rule of course. She wondered what was the "new rule" so I told her, and she was like "This is a good thing". We have met Filipinos before that used social programs very heavily even though they were making really good money off the books. She even was trying to talk my wife into filing for different things as well.

My wife quickly wised up and dropped this person as a "friend".

Edited August 12, 2019 by Cyberfx1024

[Cilllah 482]

7 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

http://lallegal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/I944-FRM-PubCharge-60Day-09262018.pdf

 

Every I-485 applicant will have to fill this out in addition to the I-864.

 

New form “Affidavit of Self Sufficiency”

 

I love this.  This is long, long overdue.  

I have no problem with this in general as I believe everyone should pull their own weight etc etc 

 

Excuse my ignorance but how does that work for people coming on K1 visa. They get there and have to marry within three months and then apply to adjust but of course they don’t have worked or anything between that time as they’re not allowed. Nor will they have US credit history or anything?

 

Am I missing something obvious?

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

4 minutes ago, Cilllah said:

I have no problem with this in general as I believe everyone should pull their own weight etc etc 

 

Excuse my ignorance but how does that work for people coming on K1 visa. They get there and have to marry within three months and then apply to adjust but of course they don’t have worked or anything between that time as they’re not allowed. Nor will they have US credit history or anything?

 

Am I missing something obvious?

What looks like before is nothing really has changed except that credit score part. 

 

That is the one big drawback of the K1 is that YOU are supposed to take care of the beneficiary during that in between status of not being able to work

[lonesurvivor 48]

14 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

http://lallegal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/I944-FRM-PubCharge-60Day-09262018.pdf

 

Every I-485 applicant will have to fill this out in addition to the I-864.

 

New form “Affidavit of Self Sufficiency”

 

I love this.  This is long, long overdue.  

Who is filling this out? The petitioner or beneficiary. The questions seem like they are being asked to the US citizen but everyone's comments below talk about "pulling their own weight" which would mean it would be for the beneficiary? How would the us government see credit scores and debt due from abroad/or care? 

[Nitas_man 3,100]

1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

What looks like before is nothing really has changed except that credit score part. 

 

That is the one big drawback of the K1 is that YOU are supposed to take care of the beneficiary during that in between status of not being able to work

Hence the reference to household members?

[Boketto 211]

Does this apply to ROC or citizenship applications? 

 

 

[Cilllah 482]

1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

What looks like before is nothing really has changed except that credit score part. 

 

That is the one big drawback of the K1 is that YOU are supposed to take care of the beneficiary during that in between status of not being able to work

I’m the beneficiary and my fiancé earns enough to support me! That’s fine and all. As soon as I can I’ll be applying for work etc. I just wasn’t sure how this would impact me on moving to the US and obviously not working or building credit between moving on K1 and applying for my green card! Sorry if that didn’t make sense.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

1 minute ago, Cilllah said:

I’m the beneficiary and my fiancé earns enough to support me! That’s fine and all. As soon as I can I’ll be applying for work etc. I just wasn’t sure how this would impact me on moving to the US and obviously not working or building credit between moving on K1 and applying for my green card! Sorry if that didn’t make sense.

It's ok and ty for clarifying that. 

[Nitas_man 3,100]

8 minutes ago, lonesurvivor said:

Who is filling this out? The petitioner or beneficiary. The questions seem like they are being asked to the US citizen but everyone's comments below talk about "pulling their own weight" which would mean it would be for the beneficiary? How would the us government see credit scores and debt due from abroad/or care? 

https://www.aila.org/File/Related/18092430c.pdf

 

Instructions

 

AOS applicant fills this out.  It SHOULD be the USC sponsor however it tails with the I-864 which has most of the same information.

 

4 minutes ago, Boketto said:

Does this apply to ROC or citizenship applications? 

 

 

Read the new rules.  I attached the whole 800+ page document.

Edited August 12, 2019 by Nitas_man

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

1 hour ago, lonesurvivor said:

Will this affect people with a current green card? I get that during adjudication, they may see use of these services and deny. But lets say they recieve their green card and 2 years down the road, they are diagnosed with a serious health issue that requires some use of public assistance. Would this affect their current immigration status? 

A serious health issue one happens upon should be covered by their own health insurance- not paid by the government (or taxpayers) that’s why we have health insurance...in case god forbid something serious happens to our health

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

1 hour ago, Mrsjackson said:

Wow. I had read previously only green card applicants would feel this. 

 

Thing is though even with that in mind, you’re likely fine. This new rule is to impede future immigration. If I were a green card applicant waiting to be eligible for citizenship I wouldn’t be applying for a bunch of benefits though. 

Agreed. Im actually surprised that so many immigrants apply for/receive benefits when we (sponsor) have to jump through hoops to show we can basically “afford” to take care of the person we are bringing into the country. One would think that’s what the affidavit of support was supposed to be all about.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/memorandum-enforcing-legal-responsibilities-sponsors-aliens/

 

Existing greencard holders who are or have used means tested benefits are handled differently. 

New directive:  enforce the law and collect from their sponsors