Final public charge rule

[azblk 338]

3 minutes ago, jasonlzak said:

True, enforcing the law, take those pennies back from the sponsor. It stuns me that lots of people here think the new law has nothing to do with race, discrimation,... It likes saying Stephen Miller loves immigrants.

 

I do not think they truly believe the arguments they are making. I personally think that in their point of view - immigrants are a drain on the USA and the less that come over the better and that to achieve that goal they are willing to go along with anything that will ultimately end up with fewer immigrants coming to the states. I have been on this forum for so many years and over time I noticed that these same usual suspects have been fans of anything and everything to get "TOUGH" on immigration.

[lonesurvivor 48]

12 minutes ago, Allaboutwaiting said:

I guess there will be many exceptions. That's why I sustain confusion will reign at USCIS -as if there wasn't already more than enough-.

 

Officers will now spend so long checking on assets, tax returns, education, skills, etc. 

 

Which is why I wonder how likely these changes are to go through/how important these little details are. Will having a bad credit card score only be a tiny factor instead of a horrible one?

 

They take so long with the rules already, how many years would it take to get through one spousal application where there are foreign tax transcripts and details involved. Translations? Laws? would they have to hire a lot more people who are specialized in each country?

 

does not sound feasible at all

[azblk 338]

6 minutes ago, lonesurvivor said:

Which is why I wonder how likely these changes are to go through/how important these little details are. Will having a bad credit card score only be a tiny factor instead of a horrible one?

 

They take so long with the rules already, how many years would it take to get through one spousal application where there are foreign tax transcripts and details involved. Translations? Laws? would they have to hire a lot more people who are specialized in each country?

 

does not sound feasible at all

At the end of the day these are just rule changes. It will be challenged in the courts and at the ballot box. Hopefully in the January 2021 there will be a new more immigrant friendly administration than this one that has decided to scapegoat immigrants legal or illegal as drain to this country. 

[Nitas_man 3,100]

17 minutes ago, azblk said:

Swell then go enforce those contracts. Do not change the rules because you are scared to sue the sponsors. It seems to me the supporters of these changes are of the attitude that I got mine so lets close the door now.

Our (taxes) exceed the 125% poverty level.  New rule does not and never would have affected us.

 

America is full of people from every country in the world who did and are doing it right.  The doors are never closed and they are welcome here.

 

We do have laws and our laws have not been enforced.  That will stop and those laws will be applied equally and across every case.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

28 minutes ago, DelilahBrz said:

the sponsors signed the affidavit, they should be responsible for their actions.  But enough of my griping. 

Yep

[AnonIndia 58]

22 minutes ago, azblk said:

I do not think they truly believe the arguments they are making. I personally think that in their point of view - immigrants are a drain on the USA and the less that come over the better and that to achieve that goal they are willing to go along with anything that will ultimately end up with fewer immigrants coming to the states. I have been on this forum for so many years and over time I noticed that these same usual suspects have been fans of anything and everything to get "TOUGH" on immigration.

I assure you that immigrants being a drain on the economy is not a concern for this administration. It is about the changing demographics. If for some reason there are millions of brown and black rich families coming in through legal immigration the administration will find a way to put an end to that as well. 

[Allaboutwaiting 2,503]

17 minutes ago, lonesurvivor said:

Which is why I wonder how likely these changes are to go through/how important these little details are. Will having a bad credit card score only be a tiny factor instead of a horrible one?

 

They take so long with the rules already, how many years would it take to get through one spousal application where there are foreign tax transcripts and details involved. Translations? Laws? would they have to hire a lot more people who are specialized in each country?

 

does not sound feasible at all

It could be like disclosing each and every social media name on the DS-160: they might check some accounts from a few applicants, not 100% of them. 

[azblk 338]

6 minutes ago, AnonIndia said:

I assure you that immigrants being a drain on the economy is not a concern for this administration. It is about the changing demographics. If for some reason there are millions of brown and black rich families coming in through legal immigration the administration will find a way to put an end to that as well. 

People that are comfortable in their home countries generally have no interest in immigrating to the US. The ones that have green cards use them as border crossing cards. There is a reason why most H1/H2 visas are issued to people from developing countries and not Norway.

[Ryan H 3,812]

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[Hemutian 68]

16 hours ago, zaback21 said:

So what will change:

 

Previously an intending immigrant wouldn't have to  show or proof they have education, financial resources, etc as mentioned below: https://fam.state.gov/FAM/09FAM/09FAM030208.html#M302_8_2_B_2

Now they need to fill Form I-944 http://lallegal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/I944-FRM-PubCharge-60Day-09262018.pdf

 

(a)  (U) Age;

(b)  (U) Health;

(c)  (U) Family status;

(d)  (U) Assets, resources, and financial status; and

(e)  (U) Education and skills.

I'm a US citizen petitioning my fiancee for the K1 visa. Interview is next week. If all goes well, my fiancee will move to the US next month, get married, and start applying for AOS. 

I'm really confused about how these new guidelines apply to applicants in our visa category (K1).

Is this new I-944 form supposed to be filled out by ME or by my fiancee? 

My fiancee has no assets at all, and will have no income at all because she is not allowed to work in the US without a green card. 

I, on the other hand, have plenty of assets and income, more than enough to satisfy 250% of the poverty guidelines. 

Will we be entering MY assets and income on the I-944, or hers (i.e. zero)?

 

[Hemutian 68]

6 hours ago, beloved_dingo said:

I don't really see how education has been factored in? Maybe I'm forgetting something, but I don't recall any question ever being asked regarding my husband's education when we were going through the K1 Visa process, and there aren't any questions about education in the Adjustment of Status paperwork either. He did have to provide info on past employment, but that's it. The "burden" so to speak, was put on me as the Petitioner to show that I could support him regardless of his education, work history, or skills. 

 

DS-160 in the K1 process does ask about the immigrant's educational credentials

[Hemutian 68]

5 hours ago, Soul Mates said:

The immigrant has to fill out the new form, provide information about their household for the previous 3 years, including tax returns even if not living in US. Not just looking at financials of US citizen.

K1 visa applicant here. My fiancee and I will get married within 1 month of entering the US and immediately apply for AOS. How is my fiancee (future wife) supposed to provide 3 years of tax returns if she only just entered the US a month before applying for AOS?

[Hemutian 68]

5 hours ago, Soul Mates said:

No, they have to submit financial information of themselves and their household members for their years before moving to the US, including foreign tax returns.

My fiancee lives in China. There is no such thing as a "tax return" here. Her taxes were simply deducted from her paycheck. She's never seen or filed a "tax return" in her life. How would she go about satisfying this demand?

[Hemutian 68]

4 hours ago, Allaboutwaiting said:

The Form I-944, Declaration of Self Sufficiency is a generic form that applies also to people adjusting status based on employment, extending stay or changing status.

So as mentioned on a previous post, K1's adjusting status, would input data from before moving. 

 

And from what I recall, the DS-160 already requires stating monthly income. Not as thorough as this new form, but they've always considered income from the applicant. 

So immigrants who arrive at AOS via the K1 route don't need to fill out Form I-944? Is this a fact? Is this stated in the 800 page guidelines?

[Soul Mates 44]

4 minutes ago, Hemutian said:

K1 visa applicant here. My fiancee and I will get married within 1 month of entering the US and immediately apply for AOS. How is my fiancee (future wife) supposed to provide 3 years of tax returns if she only just entered the US a month before applying for AOS?

I have no idea. I'm just pointing out something that isn't being discussed enough. The immigrant's financials will be more closely scrutinized and with the rush of this change, they didn't think out how the form will work in the different scenarios that it would be used.