Public charge for parents

[Lil bear 4,312]

1 minute ago, kamrankhan said:

Family docs in California are making that much, especially if they open a nursing home.

I think i864 obligation is 10 years or until applicant becomes citizen

Please read the instructions for the I864 to ensure you understand correctly the obligations of sponsorship.. 

[geowrian 22,338]

1 minute ago, kamrankhan said:

I think i864 obligation is 10 years or until applicant becomes citizen

Among other criteria...

It's not "10 years" - it's until they can claim 40 quarters of SS credits. That could be in 10 years, or it could be never (e.g. if they retire beforehand).

[Nitas_man 3,100]

9 hours ago, kamrankhan said:

Different news. Apart from these, parents with half a million assets are being denied. 

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article232951852.html

Um yeah this says the guy makes $48,000 a year, has a wife and two kids, and wants to sponsor his parents.

Who is in their 30’s, makes $48k, and has a “half mil in assets?”

I suspect maybe his liabilities weren’t subtracted?  

So he got a co-sponsor but no info on that.

 

We’ve all successfully sponsored family members.  It’s math.  You want to do it, simply show the consulate the math.  The only changes now are that more circumstances are being considered.  One of those is potential use of taxpayer subsidized benefits.  Can you pay for a non-subsidized health insurance plan for your parents?  Can they?  If yes, great-show it, and you’re good.

 

 

 

 

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

Number of misconceptions. 

 

i idly wonder what the cost of buying or starting up a nursing home netting $500k per year for the owner after all costs is, unlikely to be something the average income new graduate can do even if no student loans to pay off.

[Boiler 46,008]

I did not read the Miami article until just now but just to lick out one element:

 

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Fox-Isicoff’s client, a Hollywood man in his 30s, is married and has two children. The man, who holds a master’s degree from the University of Florida, applied to bring his parents, who work as engineers in Uzbekistan, to the United States to help support him and his wife with the rearing of their two young children.

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Documents show the applicant has assets worth more than $470,000. His gross income last year was $48,000, and his co-sponsor has an annual salary of $150,000.

Now I have probably been on here too long and have seen such stories and seen them pulled apart.

 

I had someone washing dishes with a degree from Florida, also somebody with a Masters but not from Florida.

 

His age suggests parents would be 60 plus unless they had him really young, Engineer of what? Whatever they engineer they seem happy to give up for child care.

 

So lets assume that they are as logic would suggest retiring, so what difference would it make if they are  Highly Qualified as the piece is meant to imply. Also for arguments sake what would a highly qualified Engineer in Uzbekistan make, enough to comfortably retire to the US? My father was an Accountant and my Mother a Teacher and they could not.

 

Assets, sounds to me like a house, maybe something else, with a mortgage? What are they supposed to do, sell it and live on the streets?

[Boiler 46,008]

16 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Number of misconceptions. 

 

Idly wonder what the cost of buying or starting up a nursing home netting $500k per year for the owner after all costs is, unlikely to be something the average income new graduate can do even if no student loans to pay off.

Do not know what the US market is, in the UK there are no end of nursing homes going under, quite a common story. 

 

The problem seems to be that the operating costs are high, obviously a lot of labour costs and there are not that many people who need that sort of service who can afford it, they run through their savings, sell their houses and then are reliant on Government benefits, which are nothing like what they need to charge.

 

You would need to target the very wealthy, but that means an expensive location and property and staff costs. Not going to do that in the boonies.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

3 hours ago, kamrankhan said:

I do not know why people are taking this topic to another direction. I AM NOT ASKING ABOUT HOW MY PARENT IS GOING TO SURVIVE AFTER SHE COMES HERE. I am asking about recent cases of public charge . If you guys are insisting to know, I must disclose that I am a doctor doing my residency in radiology. I know I will afford her but I am asking of NOW.

There have been many recent cases of public charge.

 

You are e-shouting here?  

 

Your answer:  In order to overcome the issue of public charge you must put the proof together to convince the officer that you can answer the question that you are shouting that you are not asking.  

 

You don’t seem to have a plan.  To get what you want?  You have to show one.

 

Nobody here cares what you do 

Edited August 11, 2019 by Nitas_man

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Do not know what the US market is, in the UK there are no end of nursing homes going under, quite a common story. 

 

The problem seems to be that the operating costs are high, obviously a lot of labour costs and there are not that many people who need that sort of service who can afford it, they run through their savings, sell their houses and then are reliant on Government benefits, which are nothing like what they need to charge.

 

You would need to target the very wealthy, but that means an expensive location and property and staff costs. Not going to do that in the boonies.

Investment costs too, not just operating costs. You either buy an existing going concern, where the sale price for a business is usually some multiple of expected income, or you have to set it up - buy/lease the building, kit it out appropriately for medical purposes, buy the equipment, hire the people, do the marketing, wait for clients and be able to ride out negative cash flow till you reach critical mass. I imagine liability insurance is steep for something like this too?

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[Boiler 46,008]

Getting late for me, but yes anything medical related is expensive from an Insurance perspective. I would expect the Liability Premium to be more than the rest of the Insurance costs put together.  A friend of mine specialised in these but that was a long time ago, so I do not know current practice but the principals do not change.

 

Very capital intensive. 

 

As an aside I was told to set up a Pharmacy would require a $1m investment in stock. And this would be the bottom level.

 

 

[SalishSea 18,123]

3 hours ago, kamrankhan said:

Lifetime? Come on man. So I will buy , lets say 30 years, of insurance in advance? lol

If you want to be a doctor, you will need to develop a cursory understanding of how insurance works.

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It would be very, very foolish for them to accept projected future earnings based on a job that you don’t currently have, so yeah, couldn’t see it happening. 

 

I mean, I hate to say this, but you could flunk your exams. Or you could be a massive cockwomble in interviews, and no one will hire you. Until you ARE an employed doctor, there’s no guarantee you’ll ever be one...apologies if that sounds negative.

[Crazy Cat 42,197]

2 minutes ago, Zoeeeeeee said:

cockwomble

Thanks....I learned something today......

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3 minutes ago, missileman said:

Thanks....I learned something today......

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I’m certain my fiancé is marrying me so he can collate more East Midlands/English slang - he loves it when I come out with one he’s not heard before - I called him a ‘twazzock’ when I last visited him and he nearly coughed up a lung laughing 😂.

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

1 hour ago, missileman said:

Thanks....I learned something today......

The British undoubtedly have the absolutely best collection of insults, which generally manage to almost but not quite be cursing. Worthy of a thread of its own.

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My thoughts are that it will be awfully hard to find a decent job that pays well at that age, with probably no insurance. I looked into costs for my husband to get government insurance several years ago for age 50. A decent plan, not the best, was over 1000 a month at that time. Co-pays are high, deductibles are high, costs for surgery are astronomical. Nursing home costs in my area start at 3,000 a month, not including medications, etc. I'm a senior too, and thank God I can still work. A surgery for my ear, in which I was in the hospital for about 5 hours, cost $40,000. Thank God for insurance!