Jeffrey Epstein ordered teen girl to have sex with powerful men, accuser says

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17 minutes ago, Bettie Page said:

 Nothing says conservative values like paying off the porn star you dawged while your third wife was pregnant with your fifth child.....lol

Except Trump is not really a conservative.  Very moderate by most standards.  A bit of a nationalist yes

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This,  "the women who were abused by Weinstein, told that their careers would be over unless they gave in". You've got the wrong of the stick,. not over, made. This is nothing new for Hollywood. The casting couch has always been alive and well and not limited to only women.  

 

I have my own Harvey Weinstein story. Early in my movie making days, the Weinstein brothers were the executive producers on a film that I worked on. One day the PM announced that Bob and Harvey would be making a set visit to check on their newest boy wonder director from New Jersey. After the  production meeting the PM pulled me aside and told me Bob was a great guy, but to watch out for Harvey and not be alone with him. So any of these Hollywood types who claim they knew nothing about what was going on are lying. Including the so-called "victim" actresses.

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19 minutes ago, Bettie Page said:

 Nothing says conservative values like paying off the porn star you dawged while your third wife was pregnant with your fifth child.....lol

Not to make light of the marital infidelity (which I absolutely will not defend), I think it extremely unlikely that paying hush money is a uniquely conservative quality. Shall we discuss Democrat John Conyers?

 

Having said that, this was a blatant abuse of power of the FBI. This was a business transaction between two private citizens. Mr. Trump paid a generous sum of money for her to keep her mouth shut (outside the bedroom anyway 😉) and she couldn't even do that. And let's please do discuss Ms. Daniels' lawyer. Darling of the left until you found out how sleazy that one is. Even then, there was no condemnation from the left, just a silent turn of the back.

 

Maybe it's the entire left that's getting their research from Cracked now. I had no idea.

10 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Except Trump is not really a conservative.  Very moderate by most standards.  A bit of a nationalist yes

He's a conservative where it counts, that's all that matters. You'll notice this fine economy we're having.

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5 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

Not to make light of the marital infidelity (which I absolutely will not defend), I think it extremely unlikely that paying hush money is a uniquely conservative quality. Shall we discuss Democrat John Conyers?

 

Having said that, this was a blatant abuse of power of the FBI. This was a business transaction between two private citizens. Mr. Trump paid a generous sum of money for her to keep her mouth shut (outside the bedroom anyway 😉) and she couldn't even do that. And let's please do discuss Ms. Daniels' lawyer. Darling of the left until you found out how sleazy that one is. Even then, there was no condemnation from the left, just a silent turn of the back.

But you can't disagree that it was particularly terrible that he was cheating on Melania when she had just had a baby for her. It makes a horrible situation even more embarrassing. It's just so sordid. 

 

Personally I think non-disclosure agreements are extortion. I know they are legal, but they're gross. Also, Avenatti always looked like he was the kind of guy who would be terrible in bed to me!  I never did trust him.

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8 minutes ago, laylalex said:

But you can't disagree that it was particularly terrible that he was cheating on Melania when she had just had a baby for her. It makes a horrible situation even more embarrassing. It's just so sordid.

It was particularly terrible that he was cheating on Melania FULL STOP. I've no time for infidelity or the people who practice it, no matter what the situation. I'll be the first to say that while I absolutely believe Mr. Trump is the best American leader in decades, this personal failing does not sit well with me. I would expect better. Fortunately I don't need his morality, only his leadership.

 

8 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Personally I think non-disclosure agreements are extortion. I know they are legal, but they're gross. Also, Avenatti always looked like he was the kind of guy who would be terrible in bed to me!  I never did trust him.

Nonsense. The world runs on non-disclosure agreements. Think of a non-disclosure agreement as a wedding vow. The money is the benefits of the marriage. But if you cheat, you're breaking the vow. There must be consequences.

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1 hour ago, Boris Farage said:

It was particularly terrible that he was cheating on Melania FULL STOP. I've no time for infidelity or the people who practice it, no matter what the situation. I'll be the first to say that while I absolutely believe Mr. Trump is the best American leader in decades, this personal failing does not sit well with me. I would expect better. Fortunately I don't need his morality, only his leadership.

 

Nonsense. The world runs on non-disclosure agreements. Think of a non-disclosure agreement as a wedding vow. The money is the benefits of the marriage. But if you cheat, you're breaking the vow. There must be consequences.

Personally, I am not an absolutist when it comes to cheating. I think it's ultimately between the spouses (or partners) to decide whether or not they can work through it. Obviously the Trumps decided they could, and good for them. My ex falsely believed I was cheating, and for him it was the breaking point, and I could not talk him out of it. Ultimately it was for the best, but at the time had he wanted to accept my apology for what he incorrectly thought was infidelity, I would have stayed.

 

However, I think with our leaders, we do need to consider their morality in a way that maybe your morality or my morality might not be of much consequence. A leader needs to be a person whose character inspires those whom he governs. Now, I also think that can include a person who cheated, as long as he or she has recognized the real hurt caused by the infidelity, and atoned for the sin. I just don't see that Trump has done that. Whether or not I ever cheated doesn't mean as much, of course, because I have no political ambitions. 

 

And I do see your analogy to a wedding vow, but it really is kind of a harsh one, don't you think? "The money is the benefits of the marriage." It just seems so... mercenary. And the consequences of breaking a non-disclosure agreement can be much harsher than in a divorce, if you have an excellent pre-nup in place. Breaking an NDA can require you to pay back everything you received for signing it, and maybe even penalties. But if you have a good pre-nup, like I did, you're protected if you divorce the person who's causing you to break your vows to cleave only unto, etc. I didn't have to pay back any of the money he gave me over the years and he still has to pay me every month! A much better result, for me at least (he's not so happy about it, but then again... it was a business transaction between two private citizens who both had lawyers... right? ).

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11 hours ago, Boris Farage said:

Not to make light of the marital infidelity (which I absolutely will not defend), I think it extremely unlikely that paying hush money is a uniquely conservative quality. Shall we discuss Democrat John Conyers?

 

Having said that, this was a blatant abuse of power of the FBI. This was a business transaction between two private citizens. Mr. Trump paid a generous sum of money for her to keep her mouth shut (outside the bedroom anyway 😉) and she couldn't even do that. And let's please do discuss Ms. Daniels' lawyer. Darling of the left until you found out how sleazy that one is. Even then, there was no condemnation from the left, just a silent turn of the back.

 

Maybe it's the entire left that's getting their research from Cracked now. I had no idea.

He's a conservative where it counts, that's all that matters. You'll notice this fine economy we're having.

I have noticed the fine economy. One of the greatest expansions in the history of the US. It has been good to me 

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The democrats did not mind a president cheating and committing sexual assault in the oval office, now they are like clutching pearls. eye roll 

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No one's clutching pearls - just pointing out the hypocrisy

 

Anyway - it's hilarious who a thread that started off with the Clinton tin-foil hat conspiracy theories as it relates to Epstein now demand EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE  to suggest that their dearly beloved Trump did anything wrong when there is video evidence of Trump dancing/oogling young girls and grabbing their behinds with his pupils the size of flying saucers.

 

I mean, it's adorable!

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41 minutes ago, Bettie Page said:

No one's clutching pearls - just pointing out the hypocrisy

 

Anyway - it's hilarious who a thread that started off with the Clinton tin-foil hat conspiracy theories as it relates to Epstein now demand EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE  to suggest that their dearly beloved Trump did anything wrong when there is video evidence of Trump dancing/oogling young girls and grabbing their behinds with his pupils the size of flying saucers.

 

I mean, it's adorable!

If you see anything out of the ordinary as regards men's behavior in a club environment, you must not get out much.

 

There is nothing wrong with ogling people who put themselves front and center to BE ogled.  (Notice I did not say oogling).

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20 hours ago, laylalex said:

Men can deny that the patriarchy exists, or that it has much power anymore, but that simply isn't correct.

usually the only ones talking about the patriarchy are the ones with sub par sammich making skills.........  

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6 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

usually the only ones talking about the patriarchy are the ones with sub par sammich making skills.........  

Actually, my sandwich making skills are excellent!  

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Just now, laylalex said:

Actually, my sandwich making skills are excellent!  

☆Pics, or it never happened☆

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2 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

If you see anything out of the ordinary as regards men's behavior in a club environment, you must not get out much.

 

There is nothing wrong with ogling people who put themselves front and center to BE ogled.  (Notice I did not say oogling).

Do we know though that they "put themselves front and center to BE ogled"? Attending a party doesn't necessarily mean you go to be objectified.

1 minute ago, ALFKAD said:

☆Pics, or it never happened☆

I'll try to nab one if I make the fiance one this weekend. We're currently working on HIS sandwich-making skills though, so I may end up posting one of his sad catastrophes.  

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