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Hello 😊

 

Im just looking for some insight on my situation. 

 

I was denied entry to see my fiancé in March of this year, then subsequently denied a visa in July, when I applied for a tourist visa. We decided to apply for the I-129f and filed it in May, after my denial in March. We are currently waiting on a response from the USCIS. 

 

I would like to know if anyone has been through something like this and how you overcame this stressful situation and what steps did you take to get a positive result?

 

Your insight is greatly appreciated 

 

Matilda

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21 minutes ago, Mattie0212 said:

Hello 😊

 

Im just looking for some insight on my situation. 

 

I was denied entry to see my fiancé in March of this year, then subsequently denied a visa in July, when I applied for a tourist visa. We decided to apply for the I-129f and filed it in May, after my denial in March. We are currently waiting on a response from the USCIS. 

 

I would like to know if anyone has been through something like this and how you overcame this stressful situation and what steps did you take to get a positive result?

 

Your insight is greatly appreciated 

 

Matilda

Yes, I have been through this situation. 

We tried to prove to the best of out abilities that our relationship is real. Photos with us and our families, payment receipts, boarding passes, she came to visit me several times, we went to the interview together, WhatsApp messages, call logs.

You know, it’s just the standard stuff that people submit. 

 

You might be asked during the interview- why was the tourist visa denied. Give them  the reason - was it insufficient ties to your home country? Other reason? And an explanation. 

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35 minutes ago, Mattie0212 said:

Hello 😊

 

Im just looking for some insight on my situation. 

 

I was denied entry to see my fiancé in March of this year, then subsequently denied a visa in July, when I applied for a tourist visa. We decided to apply for the I-129f and filed it in May, after my denial in March. We are currently waiting on a response from the USCIS. 

 

I would like to know if anyone has been through something like this and how you overcame this stressful situation and what steps did you take to get a positive result?

 

Your insight is greatly appreciated 

 

Matilda

My now wife was refused a visitor visa twice back when we were dating.  They did ask her a little about it at the K1 interview I think mostly to verify that when she applied for the tourist visas she did not misrepresent herself on those DS160s.  In the end, it was not an issue.  Now as to the denial of entry back in March, were you on an ESTA, or a B2?  Did they simply allow you to withdraw your application for admission, or were you removed?  Did they give you any documentation or add any stamps or writing on your passport?  This can make a difference in future immigration procedures.

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50 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

My now wife was refused a visitor visa twice back when we were dating.  They did ask her a little about it at the K1 interview I think mostly to verify that when she applied for the tourist visas she did not misrepresent herself on those DS160s.  In the end, it was not an issue.  Now as to the denial of entry back in March, were you on an ESTA, or a B2?  Did they simply allow you to withdraw your application for admission, or were you removed?  Did they give you any documentation or add any stamps or writing on your passport?  This can make a difference in future immigration procedures.

I was on an esta. They did stamp my passport. I was turnaround at the airport, not deported. They gave me documentation of my sworn statement, however they kept it at the embassy after my interview in July. 

 

The officer who denied my tourist visa said ids said that the visa denial shouldn’t affect my current process. I guess I’m just nervous as you never know what to expect. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mattie0212 said:

Hello 😊

 

Im just looking for some insight on my situation. 

 

I was denied entry to see my fiancé in March of this year, then subsequently denied a visa in July, when I applied for a tourist visa. We decided to apply for the I-129f and filed it in May, after my denial in March. We are currently waiting on a response from the USCIS. 

 

I would like to know if anyone has been through something like this and how you overcame this stressful situation and what steps did you take to get a positive result?

 

Your insight is greatly appreciated 

 

Matilda

Unfortunately, this is not uncommon. It happens. They may think that you were of a high risk of using the visitor visa to stay instead of filing the usual way. This is the most common reason for those type of entry denials. It raises the risk if you have a love interest in the United States. They may think you are simply moving here instead of visiting.

 

To be successful for a visitor visa the applicant must show that they do NOT have immigrant intent. Kind of hard to show that when you have a fiance or spouse in the US. Also, if they see you planned to stay here for several months with no job or responsibilities in your home country to return to... it makes it harder.

 

Fortunately, it shouldn't have a bearing on your K1 unless there was something big like misrepresentation. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Gomast said:

Yes, I have been through this situation. 

We tried to prove to the best of out abilities that our relationship is real. Photos with us and our families, payment receipts, boarding passes, she came to visit me several times, we went to the interview together, WhatsApp messages, call logs.

You know, it’s just the standard stuff that people submit. 

 

You might be asked during the interview- why was the tourist visa denied. Give them  the reason - was it insufficient ties to your home country? Other reason? And an explanation. 

The above in bold May have actually been the problem with her tourist visa denial. The most important thing people must remember with visitor visas is to prove why you must return home. The officers don't care why you want to visit, they want to see why you need to return to your country. Showing an ongoing relationship with someone in the US only makes it easy for an officer to deny a visitor visa. 

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7 minutes ago, Mattie0212 said:

I was on an esta. They did stamp my passport. I was turnaround at the airport, not deported. They gave me documentation of my sworn statement, however they kept it at the embassy after my interview in July. 

 

The officer who denied my tourist visa said ids said that the visa denial shouldn’t affect my current process. I guess I’m just nervous as you never know what to expect. 

 

 

As a turnaround, it should not impact anything. 

 

Good Luck!

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17 minutes ago, Unlockable said:

Unfortunately, this is not uncommon. It happens. They may think that you were of a high risk of using the visitor visa to stay instead of filing the usual way. This is the most common reason for those type of entry denials. It raises the risk if you have a love interest in the United States. They may think you are simply moving here instead of visiting.

 

To be successful for a visitor visa the applicant must show that they do NOT have immigrant intent. Kind of hard to show that when you have a fiance or spouse in the US. Also, if they see you planned to stay here for several months with no job or responsibilities in your home country to return to... it makes it harder.

 

Fortunately, it shouldn't have a bearing on your K1 unless there was something big like misrepresentation. 

 

 

The above in bold May have actually been the problem with her tourist visa denial. The most important thing people must remember with visitor visas is to prove why you must return home. The officers don't care why you want to visit, they want to see why you need to return to your country. Showing an ongoing relationship with someone in the US only makes it easy for an officer to deny a visitor visa. 

The officer didn’t ever ask to look at my documents that I had brought to the interview. Nonetheless that is in the past. 

 

Thank you you all for your insight. It is greatly appreciated. 

 

My fiancé is visiting me in October and we’re hoping to hear something soon from USCIS. 

 

Thanks again!!

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2 minutes ago, Mattie0212 said:

The officer didn’t ever ask to look at my documents that I had brought to the interview. Nonetheless that is in the past. 

 

Thank you you all for your insight. It is greatly appreciated. 

 

My fiancé is visiting me in October and we’re hoping to hear something soon from USCIS. 

 

Thanks again!!

The officer does not have to look at any documents brought to an interview because there is no way to authenticate them during the short interview.  This is a misconception on the part of many people.  

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49 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

The officer does not have to look at any documents brought to an interview because there is no way to authenticate them during the short interview.  This is a misconception on the part of many people.  

 

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Oh.. well that’s misleading as the embassy website recommends you being evidence to strengthen your case...

 

oh well... at least someone knows for next time!!

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3 hours ago, Unlockable said:

The above in bold May have actually been the problem with her tourist visa denial. The most important thing people must remember with visitor visas is to prove why you must return home. The officers don't care why you want to visit, they want to see why you need to return to your country. Showing an ongoing relationship with someone in the US only makes it easy for an officer to deny a visitor visa. 

The text you bolded in not from the OP, but from a member who shared how they dealt with the K1 after a tourist visa denial. 

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Certainly possible there would be a case where there is evidence that would be relevant to a B application, however the VJ experience is that what posters consider is evidence is not.

 

Begs the question what could have changed so quickly between a VWP refusal and applying for a B that would warrant a B approval, and how it was evidenced.

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5 hours ago, Mattie0212 said:

Hello 😊

 

Im just looking for some insight on my situation. 

 

I was denied entry to see my fiancé in March of this year, then subsequently denied a visa in July, when I applied for a tourist visa. We decided to apply for the I-129f and filed it in May, after my denial in March. We are currently waiting on a response from the USCIS. 

 

I would like to know if anyone has been through something like this and how you overcame this stressful situation and what steps did you take to get a positive result?

 

Your insight is greatly appreciated 

 

Matilda

Provided you have a normal case there is nothing that would prevent you from successfully obtaining a K1. Did the officer at the POE give you a reason for turning you away at the border?

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4 hours ago, Unlockable said:

Unfortunately, this is not uncommon. It happens. They may think that you were of a high risk of using the visitor visa to stay instead of filing the usual way. This is the most common reason for those type of entry denials. It raises the risk if you have a love interest in the United States. They may think you are simply moving here instead of visiting.

 

To be successful for a visitor visa the applicant must show that they do NOT have immigrant intent. Kind of hard to show that when you have a fiance or spouse in the US. Also, if they see you planned to stay here for several months with no job or responsibilities in your home country to return to... it makes it harder.

 

Fortunately, it shouldn't have a bearing on your K1 unless there was something big like misrepresentation. 

 

 

The above in bold May have actually been the problem with her tourist visa denial. The most important thing people must remember with visitor visas is to prove why you must return home. The officers don't care why you want to visit, they want to see why you need to return to your country. Showing an ongoing relationship with someone in the US only makes it easy for an officer to deny a visitor visa. 

I couldn't agree more with the underlined statement. When we filed for the visitor visa, the most important part was showing ties in her country (a reason for her to go back). We made no mention of any romantic intentions at the time.  The fear is that once you enter, you won't have a reason to go home and will therefore overstay the visa. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Mattie0212 said:

The officer who denied my tourist visa said ids said that the visa denial shouldn’t affect my current process. I guess I’m just nervous as you never know what to expect. 

 

I don't think it will affect it at all unless there were factors like drugs or something that would make you unadmissable to immigrate to the US. If the POE officer simply turned you away because he thought you might be planning to stay and work illegally in the US because you told him you had a boyfriend, that won't keep you from getting a fiancé visa which means you are going through proper procedures to remain in the US.

 

In the UK, it is pretty common for visitor visas to be quickly denied without much discussion. Because VWP  is easily available, it seems like they figure there's nothing that warrants giving you six months to hang out with a BF, or there must be something undesirable if you couldn't use VWP. Lots and lots of visitor visas are denied in the UK. 

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