Can i Translate On my Own

[payxibka 10,047]

8 minutes ago, jeaniecz said:

My embassy requires certified translations, that is, made by a sworn translator. 

I think it's very strange that others were able to submit translations made by the applicant/sponsor/friend etc; instead of a certified translations. What's the point of that?? If I translate my documents myself, I can basically enter ANY INFORMATION into the translation that is convenient to me and it might not match the original text.

 

Considering how "suspicious" the USCIS and DOS are, I cannot believe they would accept other than certified translations. 

I guess I would advise anybody to submit only certified translations, if only to make sure the translations won't be rejected. I had a sworn translator do the job for me, on everything I needed to translate and I will certainly do that in the future. 

Competent not sworn translator per Amsterdam information sheet

[geowrian 22,337]

Presumably the CO will be familiar with local languages (or have staff who are), so there’s little need for a licensed/professional translator everywhere.

[jeanieCZ 228]

19 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Competent not sworn translator per Amsterdam information sheet

Certified/sworn translator.

[jeanieCZ 228]

@payxibka 

 

You are misinforming people here. The instructions from the US CG Amsterdam are clear on the requirements of translations.

[Just Paul 4,595]

17 minutes ago, jeaniecz said:

@payxibka 

 

You are misinforming people here. The instructions from the US CG Amsterdam are clear on the requirements of translations.

Anyone can make a certification and a sworn statement.  I chose to do it when I feel I am capable.

 

I am also a Notary.   If someone comes before me I signs something swearing he is the king of france I notarize it because I am validating his signature (attestation) and not the authenticity of what he is swearing.  

[kris&me 572]

but the USCIS site says certified translator

 

A formal statement in which a translator shows that they have accurately translated a foreign-language document into English. Any foreign language document must be accompanied by a full English translation that the translator has certified as complete and correct, and by the translator's certification that they are competent to translate the foreign language into English.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/certificate-translation

 

so,   they don't really mean it?

[jeanieCZ 228]

1 minute ago, Paul & Mary said:

Anyone can make a certification and a sworn statement.  I chose to do it when I feel I am capable.

 

I am also a Notary.   If someone comes before me I signs something swearing he is the king of france I notarize it because I am validating his signature (attestation) and not the authenticity of what he is swearing.  

Validating a signature and certifying a translation are two different matters. I wasn't discussing a notary's qualification to validate signatures.

 

The instruction clearly says the translation has to be done by a sworn translator. 

 

In the Netherlands, a sworn translator/interpreter is a licenced profession regulated by the law (Wet beëdigde tolken en vertalers) and only translators who are registered in the register of sworn translators, are competent and qualified for that. So, once more, UNLESS YOU ARE A SWORN TRANSLATOR, YOU CANNOT TRANSLATE ON YOUR OWN.

[Crazy Cat 42,028]

40 minutes ago, kris&me said:

but the USCIS site says certified translator

 

A formal statement in which a translator shows that they have accurately translated a foreign-language document into English. Any foreign language document must be accompanied by a full English translation that the translator has certified as complete and correct, and by the translator's certification that they are competent to translate the foreign language into English.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/certificate-translation

 

so,   they don't really mean it?

Where does it say "certified translator"?  The translator himself/herself  (anyone who is competent in both languages) certifies:

1.  That they are competent

2.  The document translation is accurate

That makes it a certified translation.

Nowhere does it say that someone else has to certify the translator.

 

Edited July 31, 2019 by missileman

[Naes 12,205]

I certified my self by signing that I am competent in both languages and the translation is correct. (This is what certified is) now if it says notarized (sworn in front of notary that would have been a translator other than myself) but certified doesn’t mean having a certification or notary.

 

Uscis, Japanese embassy, and through my green card application; I always did it myself, no problem so far. And yes all of these places had the same thing quoted above as “certified” so I certified it.

Edited July 31, 2019 by Naes

[jeanieCZ 228]

8 minutes ago, missileman said:

Where does it say "certified translator"?  The translator himself/herself  (anyone who is competent in both languages) certifies:

1.  That they are competent

2.  The document translation is accurate

Nowhere does it say that someone else has to certify the translator.

 

So what exactly do you understand 

 

12 minutes ago, missileman said:

Where does it say "certified translator"?  The translator himself/herself  (anyone who is competent in both languages) certifies:

1.  That they are competent

2.  The document translation is accurate

Nowhere does it say that someone else has to certify the translator.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/search.html?search_input=translation&data-sia=false&data-con=true&starton=20

 

The translator has to be licensed to translate from/into that particular language. Every country has a register of translators who are competent to do so. 

[Crazy Cat 42,028]

2 minutes ago, jeaniecz said:

The translator has to be licensed to translate from/into that particular language. Every country has a register of translators who are competent to do so. 

Not for translations of foreign documents submitted to USCIS or NVC.  Many people here have done it themselves with no problems...

Edited July 31, 2019 by missileman

[jeanieCZ 228]

1 minute ago, missileman said:

Not for translations of foreign documents submitted to USCIS or NVC.

So how does USCIS verify the translations are accurate? 

 

And once more, the US CG in Amsterdam does require translations by sworn translators.

Edited July 31, 2019 by jeaniecz

[Crazy Cat 42,028]

3 minutes ago, jeaniecz said:

So how does USCIS verify the translations are accurate? 

 

And once more, the US CG in Amsterdam does require translations by sworn translators.

As was posted much earlier, consulate specifics might dictate what they will accept, but USCIS does not require a licensed translator.

Edited July 31, 2019 by missileman

[jeanieCZ 228]

Just now, missileman said:

As was posted much earlier, consulates specifics might dictate what they will accept, but USCIS does not require a licensed translator.

okay, pardon met for using USCIS and NVC liberally. 

 

So how does NVC verify the translation is accurate?

[Crazy Cat 42,028]

Just now, jeaniecz said:

okay, pardon met for using USCIS and NVC liberally. 

 

So how does NVC verify the translation is accurate?

I can't answer that....but no where do they say that a licensed translator must be used........many people here have done their own translations.....without problems.