Is anyone watching the debates tonight and tomorrow?

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1 minute ago, Dashinka said:

Not really sure what you are referring to, so I don't have a theory skippy.  I get all my data from NCHS and only look at total deaths, not deaths related to a specific cause. Yes, the number of deaths in 2020 are up a bit due to the pandemic, and I expect it would be the same regardless of who occupied the WH, but rest assured, if Joe gets elected, the US media will drop its coverage or at least turn to a positive reporting strategy to make Joe look good.  It will be like the reporting on the homeless and poor depending on which party occupies the WH.

They’re up 240000

 

That isn’t a bit.  You try adding those deltas?  LOL

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[Dashinka 24,520]

1 minute ago, Nitas_man said:

They’re up 240000

 

That isn’t a bit.  You try adding those deltas?  LOL

Yep, that is what the data says skip, why all the glee?  We see the same increase from 2014 through 2019.

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[Nitas_man 3,100]

21 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Yep, that is what the data says skip, why all the glee?  We see the same increase from 2014 through 2019.

Glee?  No, this is not the “same increase”.  Unless you are counting Jan/Feb.  The 2019/2020 (delta) exceeds the delta for half a decade.  Nice pic of a really bad flu season.  2017/2018?  COVID smoked that by end of May.

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[Nitas_man 3,100]

16 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

Glee?  No, this is not the “same increase”.  Unless you are counting Jan/Feb.  The 2019/2020 (delta) exceeds the delta for half a decade.  Nice pic of a really bad flu season.  2017/2018?  COVID smoked that by end of May.

We using the same data here.  We just interpreting it differently.  What it tells me is a LOT of people died and died unnecessarily.  Dismissing it or attributing it to made up reasons without addressing it is why the administration is looking at something along the lines of 1936, not 2016.  Any chance to reverse that has evaporated.

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How do you define a lot? 2019 figures below, a lot of people died, how many died unnecessarily?

 

• Number of deaths: 2,813,503
• Death rate: 863.8 deaths per 100,000 population
• Life expectancy: 78.6 years
• Infant Mortality rate: 5.79 deaths per 1,000 live births

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[Dashinka 24,520]

1 hour ago, Nitas_man said:

We using the same data here.  We just interpreting it differently.  What it tells me is a LOT of people died and died unnecessarily.  Dismissing it or attributing it to made up reasons without addressing it is why the administration is looking at something along the lines of 1936, not 2016.  Any chance to reverse that has evaporated.

You need to seek some grammar tutoring from NB.  Btw, the mortality rate of humans is 100%.

 

1 hour ago, Nitas_man said:

Glee?  No, this is not the “same increase”.  Unless you are counting Jan/Feb.  The 2019/2020 (delta) exceeds the delta for half a decade.  Nice pic of a really bad flu season.  2017/2018?  COVID smoked that by end of May.

More glee.  I know you will avoid it skippy, but what would have been different if a Democrat was in the WH?  What items has Trump done that was not recommended by the CDC, or Drs. Fauci or Birx?

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Interesting to note who is in power in the worst hit locales.

 

New York anybody, look what Cuomo did to Care Homes.

[Dashinka 24,520]

35 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Interesting to note who is in power in the worst hit locales.

 

New York anybody, look what Cuomo did to Care Homes.

Whitmer did the same thing in Michigan.  Sounds like they were ignoring obvious science.

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58 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

You need to seek some grammar tutoring from NB.  Btw, the mortality rate of humans is 100%.

 

More glee.  I know you will avoid it skippy, but what would have been different if a Democrat was in the WH?  What items has Trump done that was not recommended by the CDC, or Drs. Fauci or Birx?

Hersch is the spelling mod.  Everybody knows that.  You’re mistaking glee for contempt watching you play down and dismiss 200,000 people as a “normal increase”.  

 

You’re kidding about what has trump done?  Lol.  Trump has not done anything recommended by Fauci or Birx or the CDC  😂😂 Not personally, not in public, not at his superspreader events, not in his blight house.  😂😂😂  

 

Burying this in “what else it might have been” or “what might have happened if my man wasn’t in charge” isn’t going to change what is happening because of it.  You can live in April or 2016 all you want, you’re wasting time explaining it all away when it’s sitting in front of you LOL.  

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[Nitas_man 3,100]

13 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Whitmer did the same thing in Michigan.  Sounds like they were ignoring obvious science.

Michigan’s going the way of Texas.  We learned, you folks will learn too

[Nitas_man 3,100]

52 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Interesting to note who is in power in the worst hit locales.

 

New York anybody, look what Cuomo did to Care Homes.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/
 

It looks like they got it together to me

 

This:  this was trumpers before they got themselves muzzled

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

 

 

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[Voice of Reason 10,298]

How about we take the covid discussion to the covid thread??  

 

The current annual death counts are already there for you.  

 

 

[Nitas_man 3,100]

8 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

How about we take the covid discussion to the covid thread??  

 

The current annual death counts are already there for you.  

 

 

I’m good.  I do the same thing you do, track ‘em on national and state level.  I’ve seen enough to know this isn’t a “hoax” or a “wuflu”.

 

Polls open tomorrow, I got the day off, gonna head back upstairs and help the newbies.  Y’all behave yourselves down here.

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[Nitas_man 3,100]

4 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Not really sure what you are referring to, so I don't have a theory skippy.  I get all my data from NCHS and only look at total deaths, not deaths related to a specific cause. Yes, the number of deaths in 2020 are up a bit due to the pandemic, and I expect it would be the same regardless of who occupied the WH, but rest assured, if Joe gets elected, the US media will drop its coverage or at least turn to a positive reporting strategy to make Joe look good.  It will be like the reporting on the homeless and poor depending on which party occupies the WH.

I was referring to the pre-2020 lines that parallel each other through the summer/winter seasons.

 

Good to know that you “know what the press might do if Joe gets elected”.  I sure don’t.  Are you saying that even though Trump did nothing that changed GDP growth, nothing but expand the trade deficit, nothing but expand the federal deficit, and mishandled the coronavirus so badly that he absolutely wrecked our economy he was the best president for the poor and homeless?  Im sure you’re right.  Flushing him anyway 😂 Have a good week

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[Dashinka 24,520]

1 hour ago, Nitas_man said:

Hersch is the spelling mod.  Everybody knows that.  You’re mistaking glee for contempt watching you play down and dismiss 200,000 people as a “normal increase”.  

 

You’re kidding about what has trump done?  Lol.  Trump has not done anything recommended by Fauci or Birx or the CDC  😂😂 Not personally, not in public, not at his superspreader events, not in his blight house.  😂😂😂  

 

Burying this in “what else it might have been” or “what might have happened if my man wasn’t in charge” isn’t going to change what is happening because of it.  You can live in April or 2016 all you want, you’re wasting time explaining it all away when it’s sitting in front of you LOL.  

I never said it was normal, in fact I did mention that it was a pandemic of viral origins which generally drives up the overall death numbers beyond normal.  No one is burying anything, and no one is avoiding answering a question.  I know Hillary Clinton is a superhuman "public servant", but if she was in the WH, she would have had the same public health advisors giving her advice, the only difference is she would have had an ally in the media to spin everything positive.  The real fact here is pandemics are the responsibilities of the States in our representative republic, and the Feds can issue advice, but there is nothing they can do to force a State to follow it if the States own public health officials are advising other options.  There is no consensus among the epidemiologists that are discussing this pandemic as we have seen in the Barrington Proclamation, all of them have their own minds, and everyone has their own good intentions in the face of a pandemic.  Being a lifelong Republican as you say, I would expect you would be for a weaker central government, well unfortunately this is not conducive to these types of events other than to provide the means and purchasing power of the Federal government.  Believe what you want, Kamala will make an excellent President, just make sure you always wear your mask during cold and flu season, the folks in Asia do it all the time.