Is anyone watching the debates tonight and tomorrow?

[Nitas_man 3,100]

Just now, Dashinka said:

I would like to see proof other than the Tower meeting which amounted to nothing.  Hillary on the other hand paid for the Russian information, but I suppose that is fine since she was an insider and they are all above the law.

You are right, it amounts to nothing.  It did happen.  The this for that with Ukraine that got Trump impeached also happened and it happened exactly the way it was reported.  Doesn’t matter now.  Trump’s running, as pointed out, on a record of failures so vast that the damage dwarfs however many years his opponent was in office.  The previous administration matched Trump metric by metric.  Trump’s “what might happen” scare tactics that leave you boys balled up in terror dont bother me at all.  

[Nitas_man 3,100]

5 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Not really sure that Hunter worked anywhere, but I understand, insider corruption is written off by you as patriotic.

You can say that all you want.  Trump’s corruption smothers “Hunter Biden” and last time I checked I didnt see Hunter Biden on the ballot.  We dont vote over what someone’s relatives do.  Biden has been honorable and he is respected on both sides of the aisle.  Trump can’t earn respect from his appointed officials.  Because he’s dirty.  It’s just a matter of time before his financial info comes out and his bills come due.  We will see then.  The best Trump has in his debate is Hunter Biden.  Joe’s been in office for decades, was there anything he did?  LOL grifting the government is the Trump family crest.  I’ve never seen a president’s kids and inlaws with their hands so deep in every public till they can sink them into.

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[Dashinka 24,520]

1 minute ago, Nitas_man said:

You are right, it amounts to nothing.  It did happen.  The this for that with Ukraine that got Trump impeached also happened and it happened exactly the way it was reported.  Doesn’t matter now.  Trump’s running, as pointed out, on a record of failures so vast that the damage dwarfs however many years his opponent was in office.  The previous administration matched Trump metric by metric.  Trump’s “what might happen” scare tactics that leave you boys balled up in terror dont bother me at all.  

And yet 56% of Americans say they are better off.  People will vote for what they want, and Trump may win, or he may lose.  I don’t campaign for anyone and with the exception of the President who is term limited, I almost always vote against any incumbent regardless of Party.  The problem with the country is the career politicians and career bureaucrats.

[Dashinka 24,520]

1 minute ago, Nitas_man said:

You can say that all you want.  Trump’s corruption smothers “Hunter Biden” and last time I checked I didnt see Hunter Biden on the ballot.  We dont vote over what someone’s relatives do.  Biden has been honorable and he is respected on both sides of the aisle.  Trump can’t earn respect from his appointed officials.  Because he’s dirty.  It’s just a matter of time before his financial info comes out and his bills come due.  We will see then.

It is interesting though that when Trump leaves office, I like all the other elected officials in DC, he will have actually lost a lot more money then they have.  

[Nitas_man 3,100]

6 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

And yet 56% of Americans say they are better off.  People will vote for what they want, and Trump may win, or he may lose.  I don’t campaign for anyone and with the exception of the President who is term limited, I almost always vote against any incumbent regardless of Party.  The problem with the country is the career politicians and career bureaucrats.

You said that already.  39% of them attribute it to Trump.  Not good a few days before voting starts.

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[Nitas_man 3,100]

7 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

It is interesting though that when Trump leaves office, I like all the other elected officials in DC, he will have actually lost a lot more money then they have.  

Trump doesnt actually have any money.  He has several hundred million in debts and all of his businesses lose money, unless he is misleading the IRS.  That’s fake too 😂
He’ll be the president who owes the most money to the IRS for sure.  100 million dollars is a pretty big haul.  You have to what “lose” 300 mil to get 100 mil back?  hahahahaha

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[Steeleballz 7,550]

10 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

Trump doesnt actually have any money.  He has several hundred million in debts and all of his businesses lose money, unless he is misleading the IRS.  That’s fake too 😂
He’ll be the president who owes the most money to the IRS for sure.  100 million dollars is a pretty big haul.  You have to what “lose” 300 mil to get 100 mil back?  hahahahaha

 

  This is tough for many to reconcile. Trump sold everyone on his business acumen when he doesn't really have one. It was the first of the many alternate truths that people bought into and many just can't get past it. It's the same psychology that keeps people sending money to the lost millionaire scammers, hoping for something long after they should have realized they were hooked, lined and sinkered.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

2 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  This is tough for many to reconcile. Trump sold everyone on his business acumen when he doesn't really have one. It was the first of the many alternate truths that people bought into and many just can't get past it. It's the same psychology that keeps people sending money to the lost millionaire scammers, hoping for something long after they should have realized they were hooked, lined and sinkered.

Nah we all knew.  Hillary was in our view worse, leaving two spoiled dishes and which one would sicken us less.  Well, we sure got sickened anyway.
 

Fool me once....you know how it goes.  Trump initially had some good people, people who abandoned ship as soon as they realized what they got themselves into.  Now he’s surrounded by sycophants and grifters, supported by reality show addicts.  Pity.  

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[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

25 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  This is tough for many to reconcile. Trump sold everyone on his business acumen when he doesn't really have one. It was the first of the many alternate truths that people bought into and many just can't get past it. It's the same psychology that keeps people sending money to the lost millionaire scammers, hoping for something long after they should have realized they were hooked, lined and sinkered.

There's nothing to reconcile. Trump's economic successes speak for themselves in his time as President. Additionally, the left and media have endlessly said Trump is profiting off the Presidency (along with the Russia stuff) before the supposed tax returns while those suggest Trump loses money clearly not profiting off it, and the narrative quickly changes to "see how he's not profiting... terrible businessman!". Poor gaslight attempt and all, what you're saying is something no one takes seriously, it far more looks like self reassurance. Which is cool because lying to themselves is what a lot of people do. It just doesn't help in dealing with impending reality when it doesn't fit what you're trying to make it out to be. Unfortunately these are not 2020 lessons, should've been 2016 lessons. 

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[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 minute ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

There's nothing to reconcile. Trump's economic successes speak for themselves in his time as President. Additionally, the left and media have endlessly said Trump is profiting off the Presidency (along with the Russia stuff) before the supposed tax returns while those suggest Trump loses money clearly not profiting off it, and the narrative quickly changes to "see how he's not profiting... terrible businessman!". Poor gaslight attempt and all, what you're saying is something no one takes seriously. 

 

  Good to see you have a new favorite word. The good news is we'll actually find out who was doing all the gaslighting in 3 short weeks.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

11 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

There's nothing to reconcile. Trump's economic successes speak for themselves in his time as President. Additionally, the left and media have endlessly said Trump is profiting off the Presidency (along with the Russia stuff) before the supposed tax returns while those suggest Trump loses money clearly not profiting off it, and the narrative quickly changes to "see how he's not profiting... terrible businessman!". Poor gaslight attempt and all, what you're saying is something no one takes seriously, it far more looks like self reassurance. Which is cool because lying to themselves is what a lot of people do. It just doesn't help in dealing with impending reality when it doesn't fit what you're trying to make it out to be. Unfortunately these are not 2020 lessons, should've been 2016 lessons. 

They speak in speeches but fail to show up in GDP, deficit, employment, or trade balance metric measurements.  That’s where accomplishments count 👍
 

I mean you can always get some economic data and bring it here and show us 😂.  I was happy to do so 👍
 

Gaslighting is touting accomplishments that conflict with the data that measures them.  Only one of us is doing that here.

 

I mean highlighting record growth without any GDP growth to accompany it is sort of foolish isnt it?  

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[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

3 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Good to see you have a new favorite word. The good news is we'll actually find out who was doing all the gaslighting in 3 short weeks.

New? 

 

You can tell me the gaslighting I'm doing now, like you I didn't vote for the winner in the last election. The difference therein is how we cope with it. 

[Nitas_man 3,100]

5 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

New? 

 

You can tell me the gaslighting I'm doing now, like you I didn't vote for the winner in the last election. The difference therein is how we cope with it. 

Just tell yourself that a (whopping, wow) 184% market cap to gdp is real value and not a bubble that hasn’t been seen since dot-com and it’s all attributable to the Donald 😂👍

The dot com thing didnt end well at ALL
I mean dont you all love DT because of “his” stock market?  SMH Even that’s fake value.

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[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

20 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

Just tell yourself that a (whopping, wow) 184% market cap to gdp is real value and not a bubble that hasn’t been seen since dot-com and it’s all attributable to the Donald 😂👍

The dot com thing didnt end well at ALL
I mean dont you all love DT because of “his” stock market?  SMH Even that’s fake value.

 

It's like a wall of talking points. Clearly you have no idea what I discuss.. I rarely talk about the stock market regardless of how it's doing. I care far more about local investment, as in employment, circulation within the US. CPI, inflation, disposable income, those things have been top notch under Trump as far as what the President has any great impact on. Those successes are why idiots are wanting to keep things shut down. 

[Nitas_man 3,100]

2 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

 

It's like a wall of talking points. Clearly you have no idea what I discuss.. I rarely talk about the stock market regardless of how it's doing. I care far more about local investment, as in employment, circulation within the US. CPI, inflation, disposable income, those things have been top notch under Trump as far as what the President has any great impact on. Those successes are why idiots are wanting to keep things shut down. 

Market cap to GDP, as a measurement of market health, is assuredly not a “talking point”

The stock market is mentioned often by the president and often waved as an accomplishment, but it is not underpinned by company growth.  This too, is a failure.

Did you have some data to share?  Or are you just commenting here.

Edited October 11, 2020 by Nitas_man