Is anyone watching the debates tonight and tomorrow?

[laylalex 7,289]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

They have chapters all over including Africa. So how did the white supremacist tag get added?

They have links to white supremacist organizations, and much of the Western chauvinism thing could be seen borderline as well. Also, quislings aren't a made up thing.

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

29 minutes ago, Boiler said:

They have chapters all over including Africa. So how did the white supremacist tag get added?

Based on comments from their founder. 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

38 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I am just so puzzled how people who pay close attention to the news as many on here clearly do could have missed mentions of the Proud Boys over the past three or four years. They've hardly been a state secret. I heard about them before Charlottesville from a friend who lives in the PNW. 

 

The Proud Boys are chauvinists who do not believe that women have any role in society except to be subservient to men and bear them plenty of babies. Proud Boys have been convicted of violent assaults and sent away to prison for multi-year terms. 

 

They are technically "Western chauvinists" which doesn't preclude non-white men.

The Proud Boys seem relegated to a specific area of the country and played up by left wing newspapers. Given I don't see them doing anything other than engaging Antifa, I've never seen reason to bother with the hysterics. The polarization of the left has them calling everyone racists and trying to put on this show of moral equivalence to extremism. So, people don't swim around looking for more info in light of a lack of things happening. I didn't know anything about Antifa until around 2017 or so and they (the US version) had been around years. This is what distrust for a lying narrative driving media gets you.

 

I also don't care about mere "beliefs", actions matter, as people are more than capable of lying, trolling, etc. Their methodology behind presumptions is precisely how the left clearly get things wrong more than right.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

51 minutes ago, laylalex said:

They have links to white supremacist organizations, and much of the Western chauvinism thing could be seen borderline as well. Also, quislings aren't a made up thing.

blm has links to terrorist groups, as well as known terrorists helping them raise money.  Haven't seen any lefties here in CEHST speaking out against that.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

blm has links to terrorist groups, as well as known terrorists helping them raise money.  Haven't seen any lefties here in CEHST speaking out against that.

You also notice:

- Giant crowd of protesters/rioters not social distancing or wearing masks:  👍

- Trump rallies: 👎

- Looting/torching cities/rioting/attacking people/invading restaurant eating spaces or groups of people outdoors and shouting them down  👍

- Trying to keep your business open and from going bankrupt:  👎

 

[TBoneTX 45,329]

A seemingly fair proposal.  Comments?

Quote

How to Start a 'Dumpster Fire' (and Prevent the Next One)

by K.S. Bruce - October 04, 2020

 

History seems destined to blame Donald Trump for the "dumpster fire inside a train wreck" presidential debate this week.  The debate transcript, however, clearly shows that Joe Biden lit the match, and moderator Chris Wallace threw a log on the fire, before America's counter-puncher-in-chief came back with pyrotechnics of his own.  It also shows that the remedy to prevent similar debates in the future may be very different from the rule changes some critics now propose.

Let's parse the transcript in some detail, using the time stamps and words on Rev.com.  [...]

 

Continues here: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/10/04/how_to_start_a_dumpster_fire_and_prevent_the_next_one_144362.html  

Edited October 5, 2020 by TBoneTX

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

Here we go. I hope Pence can undo some of the bleeding.  I always thought Pence did a great job on the corona virus briefings. A stable professional in contrast to Trump.

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

21 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Here we go. I hope Pence can undo some of the bleeding.  I always thought Pence did a great job on the corona virus briefings. A stable professional in contrast to Trump.

Two great debaters, Pence will definitely handicapped by the scenario for covid.

Thoughts and prayers Mike!

I luv luv Kamala's friendly looks at Pence like "oh I gotta hear this" 

 

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

Pence is not fairing as well as he did against Kaine.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

I'm glad the reaction porn appeals to some, there's not much use of the debate so far, beyond neither being able to answer questions ("great debaters" 😂), Kamala has already peddled both Russia and kung flu "hoax" conspiracy theories. 

[laylalex 7,289]

It's dull. I find this kind of reassuring.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

41 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

I'm glad the reaction porn appeals to some, there's not much use of the debate so far, beyond neither being able to answer questions ("great debaters" 😂), Kamala has already peddled both Russia and kung flu "hoax" conspiracy theories. 

Yeah the Russian bounties thing caused me to turn it off because that has been proven to be debunked and even Liberal journalists are tweeting that it has been debunked already

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

8 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Yeah the Russian bounties thing caused me to turn it off because that has been proven to be debunked and even Liberal journalists are tweeting that it has been debunked already

Good timing too because the "fine people" and "condemn white supremacists" trash just got tossed into the dumpster fire that is the Kamala debate. Looks like we're going for every single conspiracy over the last 4 years. Did she mention Ukraine yet? Lost opportunity. 😂

Edited October 8, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

That joust Pence made about Biden and plagiarism... priceless!!

 

Overall, I think Pence trounced her.  He was calm and well-spoken.  Her voice wavered whenever she knew she was lying.  She would never make it on a witness stand.

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

25 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Yeah the Russian bounties thing caused me to turn it off because that has been proven to be debunked and even Liberal journalists are tweeting that it has been debunked already

Help me, where was it debunked?

Edited October 8, 2020 by CanAm1980