Is anyone watching the debates tonight and tomorrow?

[Steeleballz 7,550]

3 hours ago, laylalex said:

She didn't "get into Harvard." She taught at Harvard. There is a definite difference.

 

    If you want a real topic for distinction, we have Trump supporters in this thread complaining about how much someone lies. 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

We're back to six pages ago.

 

On 1/16/2020 at 12:25 AM, Burnt Reynolds said:

Trump has lied somewhere in his life, therefore its perfectly okay for Democrat politicians to adopt the ethnicities of minorities for personal gain and even weaponize it. I mean come on, who hasn't done this a time or ten? Tomayto, Tomahto.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

41 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    If you want a real topic for distinction, we have Trump supporters in this thread complaining about how much someone lies. 

Jesus effing christ, are you kidding me right now?  Name ONE SINGLE politician who hasn’t lied.  Or human being, for that matter.  As House said, “everybody lies”.

But not everyone lies to get ahead on a job application, and gets caught at it.  She did, and in here are people trying to justify that.  Pretty pathetic,

[Steeleballz 7,550]

32 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Jesus effing christ, are you kidding me right now?  Name ONE SINGLE politician who hasn’t lied.  Or human being, for that matter.  As House said, “everybody lies”.

But not everyone lies to get ahead on a job application, and gets caught at it.  She did, and in here are people trying to justify that.  Pretty pathetic,

 

   I'm not one to rationalize lying. All it does is attempt to justify your own attitude towards it. Either you accept it or you don't. It's not something I'm partisan about personally, but I can see many are. C'est la vie.

[laylalex 7,285]

2 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

Lie (verb)

To give false information intentionally with intent to deceive.

I think that proves the point I am trying to make. If there is no intent to deceive when the false information is given intentionally, it's not a lie. It's just false information. 

[mandsophia 160]

3 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    If you want a real topic for distinction, we have Trump supporters in this thread complaining about how much someone lies. 

not a trump supporter at all personally. heavily oppose Elizabeth Warren and her lying. I don't like typical establishment/career politicians or candidates from either side/any country so its why I dislike Warren/Biden/Hillary etc and Trump is not typical, but his rhetoric is not something I enjoy or agree with either.

 

i think politics are in a really horrible spot still if we have to justify someone's lying by say saying well he lied too so therefore, its okay. I am not saying that is what you said, but I see it often as an argument about Warren's lies that she has even apologized for. I think it sucks that if we dislike an objective bad thing someone did (lie), many of our immediate responses are well you like ___ he's a liar too so its not that bad. Puts our standards for politicians super super super low then..

Edited January 18, 2020 by mandsophia

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

On 1/16/2020 at 5:02 PM, ALFKAD said:

Did BCKing hack Maven's account?!?

Goodness, that's blast from the past. I assure you, it is I, the maven.

 

Terrible to note that I am coming up to my 13th anniversary of joining this site -- I was definitely lurking earlier than that. When I joined I was an AOC, and now I'm a Nancy.  

[Steeleballz 7,550]

6 minutes ago, mandsophia said:

not a trump supporter at all personally. heavily oppose Elizabeth Warren and her lying. I don't like typical establishment/career politicians or candidates from either side/any country so its why I dislike Warren/Biden/Hillary etc and Trump is not typical, but his rhetoric is not something I enjoy or agree with either.

 

i think politics are in a really horrible spot still if we have to justify someone's lying by say saying well he lied too so therefore, its okay. I am not saying that is what you said, but I see it often as an argument about Warren's lies that she has even apologized for. I think it sucks that if we dislike an objective bad thing someone did (lie), many of our immediate responses are well you like ___ he's a liar too so its not that bad. Puts our standards for politicians super super super low then..

 

   I wasn't talking about you. Just some of the regular posters who are suddenly concerned about the ethics of lying.

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1 minute ago, elmcitymaven said:

Goodness, that's blast from the past. I assure you, it is I, the maven.

 

Terrible to note that I am coming up to my 13th anniversary of joining this site -- I was definitely lurking earlier than that. When I joined I was an AOC, and now I'm a Nancy.  

There should be benefits for Seniors. You have been here longer than most Mods.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Just now, Boiler said:

There should be benefits for Seniors. You have been here longer than most Mods.

I think it's only Charles amongst the Mods who's been here longer than me. I have been here long enough to remember the first mods -- Magenta (or whatever she was calling herself at the time) and Jenn! I also remember chat, which was AMAZING. That was where some of the craziest stuff with the MENA girls happened.

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3 minutes ago, elmcitymaven said:

I think it's only Charles amongst the Mods who's been here longer than me. I have been here long enough to remember the first mods -- Magenta (or whatever she was calling herself at the time) and Jenn! I also remember chat, which was AMAZING. That was where some of the craziest stuff with the MENA girls happened.

The girls sponsoring their toy boys? I have the attention span of a gnat when it comes to names of yore plus I did not plumb the dark areas of VJ.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Just now, Boiler said:

The girls sponsoring their toy boys? I have the attention span of a gnat when it comes to names of yore plus I did not plumb the dark areas of VJ.

So you don't recall the woman who referred to herself as a Circassian princess? Or the woman who was worried about her baby being stolen by a cat inside a North African hospital?

 

I am at risk of importing drama from other threads here, I am quite aware. But the old days of VJ certainly had some bigger … personalities in the old days. Pile ons seem far more rare.

[Lemonslice 4,853]

2 minutes ago, elmcitymaven said:

So you don't recall the woman who referred to herself as a Circassian princess? Or the woman who was worried about her baby being stolen by a cat inside a North African hospital?

 

I am at risk of importing drama from other threads here, I am quite aware. But the old days of VJ certainly had some bigger … personalities in the old days. Pile ons seem far more rare.

Queen Narnia!  So much gold that laws didn't apply to her situation!

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3 minutes ago, elmcitymaven said:

So you don't recall the woman who referred to herself as a Circassian princess? Or the woman who was worried about her baby being stolen by a cat inside a North African hospital?

 

I am at risk of importing drama from other threads here, I am quite aware. But the old days of VJ certainly had some bigger … personalities in the old days. Pile ons seem far more rare.

Absolutely agree times have changed, I spent some time on VJ Holiday because of those, when I was less.conversant with the delights of the ToS. The Canadian and his boy toy, the very ongoing Russian Stripper, the lady going to Egypt covered a whole winter until she I think was banned. Happy days.

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10 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Absolutely agree times have changed, I spent some time on VJ Holiday because of those, when I was less.conversant with the delights of the ToS. The Canadian and his boy toy, the very ongoing Russian Stripper, the lady going to Egypt covered a whole winter until she I think was banned. Happy days.

You forgot Kip