Police certificate requirements?

[bellsbells 3]

Hi all, my fiancé is currently waiting to hear from the embassy in Paris that they received his application from the NVC, which was sent on June 25. In preparing the documents for the K-1, we are particularly confused about the police certification requirements. He has lived in several different countries for various amounts of time, either in successive 3-month visits or authorized longer stays. In determining which countries he can be considered to have lived in for more than 6 months, what are the criteria? Do 180+ cumulative days over the period of one year count, even if visiting on a tourist visa? 

[Pitaya 2,577]

Please provide a copy of the embassy/consulate's specific document on police certificates...the devil is in details.

[payxibka 10,045]

25 minutes ago, bellsbells said:

Hi all, my fiancé is currently waiting to hear from the embassy in Paris that they received his application from the NVC, which was sent on June 25. In preparing the documents for the K-1, we are particularly confused about the police certification requirements. He has lived in several different countries for various amounts of time, either in successive 3-month visits or authorized longer stays. In determining which countries he can be considered to have lived in for more than 6 months, what are the criteria? Do 180+ cumulative days over the period of one year count, even if visiting on a tourist visa? 

Its is 6 months in the aggregate in any location resided.  Not to be confused with touristing

[bellsbells 3]

1 hour ago, Pitaya (火龙果) said:

Please provide a copy of the embassy/consulate's specific document on police certificates...the devil is in details.

Here is the item in question:

Police certificates from your present country of residence and all countries where you have lived for six months or more since age 16 (Police certificates are also required for accompanying children age 16 or older).

[samnrong 52]

Since it says "lived", I would take that to mean countries where you actually hold a residence, as this is what would be considered "living".

 

If Fiancee is taking multiple vacations, each for 1 month, and over a period of years accumulates 6 months in the location, that would not be considered "living".

 

However, if Fiancee holds a residence in the country and only leaves for a few days to "reset" their tourist visa. I would consider that as "living" and you'd need to provide police certificates.

 

Can you please provide more robust detail and timeline? If you include the countries and date ranges for everywhere your Fiancee lived you will have much greater success in responses from the community. Otherwise, you will just get "general" responses since nobody knows the specifics of your case.

[Greenbaum 12,259]

18 hours ago, bellsbells said:

Hi all, my fiancé is currently waiting to hear from the embassy in Paris that they received his application from the NVC, which was sent on June 25. In preparing the documents for the K-1, we are particularly confused about the police certification requirements. He has lived in several different countries for various amounts of time, either in successive 3-month visits or authorized longer stays. In determining which countries he can be considered to have lived in for more than 6 months, what are the criteria? Do 180+ cumulative days over the period of one year count, even if visiting on a tourist visa? 

USC petitioner does not required a PCC. When you supply the I-129f his information is run through different Federal and Local for security checks. The beneficiary is the only one required to do complete PCC if they meet living in another country, from your home country, since the age of 16 for 6 months or more.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country.html

Once you land on the page, review the left column and select the first letter of the country you want to access. Then select your country and once you land on the page for the country your looking for scroll down a bit and find "Police, Court, Prison Records" tab and select it. First thing you want to know is if you are not physically in the country to request your PCC will they provide one. If they don't provide one because of the requirement that you have to be personally in the country then you will not need one from that country. Take a screen shot and print the page off to bring with your to the interview. Most CO's know which country's you can get a PCC from without to much trouble. In the event the CO does not know this for one of your country's you can offer the screen shot in your defense.
 

 

Many of our answers are predicated on the information you supply in your profile. When we look at the left column and can't determine your timeline OR your Embassy it's hard for us to give you a factual answer. Our answers will sometimes be tailored to a specific Embassy hence the reason for you to complete your profile. If you look at the profile of others here, they have a flag for their country, so it makes it easy for us to reply as we can quickly determine their Embassy. The country that should be used is the country where the interview will take place.
 
So, if you could help yourself out and complete your profile that sure would help us out when we want to reply to your question with factual information.
 
Go to the top right of this page select your name (it's on the upper right-hand corner)>my profile>[below your picture on the right column] edit my profile. Scroll to the bottom and fill in "Immigration Info". There now we can better serve you.

Once you finish that then return and you will see a flag in your profile. Select it and see what wonderful information will open up for you.
 
Thanks
 

[bellsbells 3]

Thank you SO MUCH for this info! In the meantime, my fiance has found out that to get a police record from China, he needs to show his student visa as proof that he lived there. However, since in France they revoke your old passport when you renew it, he can no longer provide the visa. Would this mean that the police certificate for China would be waived?

 

P.S. You suggested I fill out my profile, but it's already done. I see a French flag under my name on this page, and I've added all of the dates so far in the timeline.

[Hank_ 9,174]

They didn't return the old passport with the new passport?   That is different.

[samnrong 52]

51 minutes ago, bellsbells said:

Thank you SO MUCH for this info! In the meantime, my fiance has found out that to get a police record from China, he needs to show his student visa as proof that he lived there. However, since in France they revoke your old passport when you renew it, he can no longer provide the visa. Would this mean that the police certificate for China would be waived?

 

P.S. You suggested I fill out my profile, but it's already done. I see a French flag under my name on this page, and I've added all of the dates so far in the timeline.

There was another post recently on here regarding police certificate from China. From what I recall that poster had a lot of evidence that he could not obtains a certificate and the consulsate sent him into AP and did not accept his responses. They still wanted him to obtain something even with his evidence it was unobtainable. The evidence that he had was also much more robust than “I don’t have my old passport so it’s not available”.

 

It may be a consulate thing, but I’d look into this one further. It could give you trouble down the line and has given at least one other member trouble recently.

[samnrong 52]

Here is a link to that post:

 

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/710347-please-help-police-certificate-from-china-merged-threads/

[bellsbells 3]

Thanks for that info about other people having issues. This is very discouraging however. Without his passport showing the visa I don't see how he could ever hope to obtain a police certificate.

 

 

On 7/19/2019 at 1:18 PM, Hank_ said:

They didn't return the old passport with the new passport?   That is different.

In France they require you to return your expired passport when you renew. There is only once exception to this rule: you may keep your expired passport if it contains a visa that is still valid. Since this was not the case for my fiance, he did not get to keep it. If he had known back then (3 years ago) he certainly would have scanned all the pages first. 

Edited July 22, 2019 by bellsbells

[Hank_ 9,174]

1 hour ago, bellsbells said:

Thanks for that info about other people having issues. This is very discouraging however. Without his passport showing the visa I don't see how he could ever hope to obtain a police certificate.

 

 

In France they require you to return your expired passport when you renew. There is only once exception to this rule: you may keep your expired passport if it contains a visa that is still valid. Since this was not the case for my fiance, he did not get to keep it. If he had known back then (3 years ago) he certainly would have scanned all the pages first. 

Yes in the USA you send in your expired/old passport also with the renewal application, but you get the old passport back (cancelled of course)

Edited July 22, 2019 by Hank_