B1 rejected twice, implications and wait time for B2 (merged 3)

[arken 4,197]

21 minutes ago, lostcause said:

How much should the cool down time be if i want to apply for visitor visa, half a year or one year?

I guess the more the better but keep in mind, you are denied under 214(b), which means you are seen as an intending immigrant. Think of under what circumstances would the CO feel you wouldn’t stay in the US and return back when you apply for a visitor visa.

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

56 minutes ago, lostcause said:

How much should the cool down time be if i want to apply for visitor visa, half a year or one year?

Business meetings have no co-relation to a personal trip. As such, there should be no such cool down time, unless you're looking for any US visa. 

[ElDiablo 95]

2 hours ago, lostcause said:

How much should the cool down time be if i want to apply for visitor visa, half a year or one year?

You sound very desperate to enter the US. How come you suddenly want a visitor visa after being denied for a B1?

 

Something doesn't add up and the CO will see that as well.

[Cryssiekins 976]

Your company dropped the ball.  If you’re on a work trip for 3 months (which seems quite long), you should have had a list of dates and locations for meetings with the names of the company for each.  If any of the items were conferences, registration confirmations should have been provided.  I agree plane/tickets and hotels may not be needed, but a least a roadmap of where you’ll be during those 3 months is required.

[carmel34 3,639]

Your stated purpose for wanting a visa was too generic and too long.  Next time try for more specific (dates, places, names, addresses) and shorter (a few weeks not three months).  No plans at all for 90 days made them suspicious.

 

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

Musing further, if my company asked me to take a business trip for 3 months, I would certainly ask them exactly what they expected me to be doing to have to be out the office and away from home for so long.

[cd37 229]

7 hours ago, WeGuyGal said:

3 months to attend "some" business meetings? 

 

According to posts in other forums, a retired CO understood that to be usually a thinly-guised attempt to enter the US and code or seek H1B etc.

 

Any company that sends employees on business demonstrates clearly why they need to send that individual(s) to the US, and not just for "..various business meetings with various clients, stakeholders, business partners.." 

H1b can be applied from outside of the US. You dont have to be in the country. Even if OP wants to do that, you have to be in US before April 1 and h1b cap generally filled right on first day. So i do not think this could be a reason but yes I agree that not having plan for three months could be a reason for denial.

[ineedadisplayname 501]

9 hours ago, missileman said:

What company sends someone to the US with no set time frame, no set agenda and very loose goals ?  How large is this company?   I suggest a much better plan before applying again.....good luck.

He is probably going to work for 3 months on site at the client's location. If admitted for 6 months at the POE might stay longer....

At least that is what I thought right away.... Seen it before... (Doesn't matter his nationality)

 

[ineedadisplayname 501]

2 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

Musing further, if my company asked me to take a business trip for 3 months, I would certainly ask them exactly what they expected me to be doing to have to be out the office and away from home for so long.

They are sending him on site to the client's location to work. I don't think he is going to sit in meetings for 3 months....

[cd37 229]

9 hours ago, missileman said:

What company sends someone to the US with no set time frame, no set agenda and very loose goals ?  How large is this company?   I suggest a much better plan before applying again.....good luck.

It happens all the time atleast in engineering field if you are in customer support and you have to go onsite to resolve issue which can be 3 to 6 months long assignment at customers site but definitely not for meetings for three months. 

[geowrian 22,337]

9 minutes ago, cd37 said:

It happens all the time atleast in engineering field if you are in customer support and you have to go onsite to resolve issue which can be 3 to 6 months long assignment at customers site but definitely not for meetings for three months. 

Well yes, but that would require work authorization anyway. They would need a visa that permits this, not a B-1.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

45 minutes ago, cd37 said:

It happens all the time atleast in engineering field if you are in customer support and you have to go onsite to resolve issue which can be 3 to 6 months long assignment at customers site but definitely not for meetings for three months. 

He claims to work for a large US financial institution. 

 

1 hour ago, ineedadisplayname said:

They are sending him on site to the client's location to work. I don't think he is going to sit in meetings for 3 months....

So you are just assuming he is outright lying?

[ineedadisplayname 501]

37 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

He claims to work for a large US financial institution. 

 

So you are just assuming he is outright lying?

Kind of to be honest. Maybe it is not nice of me but it is not unheard of. And most of the time it's not even the applicants fault because the company coaches them what to say and so on....

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

38 minutes ago, ineedadisplayname said:

Kind of to be honest. Maybe it is not nice of me but it is not unheard of. And most of the time it's not even the applicants fault because the company coaches them what to say and so on....

Right so he is lying about where he works, what he does and what he plans to do? That’s quite a conclusion to get to based on what’s been presented here. 

 

Also, if an applicant does lie, plain bull**** that it’s “not their fault”. I would not lie in a visa interview because a company told me to. You seem very knowledgeable on all this by the way, as well as defensive about the lying applicants you talk about .... hmmm.

[ineedadisplayname 501]

9 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Right so he is lying about where he works, what he does and what he plans to do? That’s quite a conclusion to get to based on what’s been presented here. 

 

Also, if an applicant does lie, plain bull**** that it’s “not their fault”. I would not lie in a visa interview because a company told me to. You seem very knowledgeable on all this by the way, as well as defensive about the lying applicants you talk about .... hmmm.

Wooow.

U got to the wrong conclusions bout what i said. 

I did not say he lied where he works....

And yes a lot of ppl do what the company tells them.