Being unemplyed ( i130)

[Daphne . 1,954]

Just now, Alex2019 said:

i don't know what red flags are ( i heard about them before )  so i'm reading about them now and i'm gonna answer 

These would be the questions I asked earlier. How many times have you seen eachother?, how many visits before proposing/getting married?, how many after?, is there a huge age gap (I don't think so as she had your child), difference in religion?, are both families on board?, evidence of that in form of pictures with family members etc..

[Mounir Ali 0]

1 minute ago, Daphne K said:

These would be the questions I asked earlier. How many times have you seen eachother?, how many visits before proposing/getting married?, how many after?, is there a huge age gap (I don't think so as she had your child), difference in religion?, are both families on board?, evidence of that in form of pictures with family members etc..

yes i understand !! 

so it's been 2 years we got married ( our son is 8 months old ) and we are about to send the folder 

this is the third time she visits me and each time she stay 3 months with me 

we talked 7 months before she came here the first time and after one month of her being here we got married

i'm 3 years older than her ( 20s)

we have the same religion 

we have a lot of pictures show our love with my family and our son ( and beautiful wedding with  70 invitation )

i was sending for her money after she got pregnant and i have proves

 

[JFH 12,191]

Please note that sponsorship isn’t about providing someone with a place to stay and a plate of food three times a day. Sponsorship is a legally binding contract between the sponsor and the US government. When someone agrees to act as a joint sponsor it’s a lot more than offering food until they get a job. It’s an agreement from the sponsor that they will be held accountable and can be sued by the government if the immigrant becomes a public charge. In your situation that’s a very valid concern. 

 

Sponsorship doesn't end when immigrant gets his first pay check here. It lasts until the immigrant becomes a USC, can be credited with 40 quarters of work, leaves the USA permanently, dies or when the sponsor dies, whichever of those happens first. 

[Mounir Ali 0]

1 minute ago, JFH said:

Please note that sponsorship isn’t about providing someone with a place to stay and a plate of food three times a day. Sponsorship is a legally binding contract between the sponsor and the US government. When someone agrees to act as a joint sponsor it’s a lot more than offering food until they get a job. It’s an agreement from the sponsor that they will be held accountable and can be sued by the government if the immigrant becomes a public charge. In your situation that’s a very valid concern. 

 

Sponsorship doesn't end when immigrant gets his first pay check here. It lasts until the immigrant becomes a USC, can be credited with 40 quarters of work, leaves the USA permanently, dies or when the sponsor dies, whichever of those happens first. 

what you are saying is very right and it makes a lot of sense to me .

what do you suggest to help the situation ? ,do you think show them i will bring money with me i( like 4.000 dollars ) is helpful  ? or show them my dilpoma or my level of english ?

you obviously know better than me in all this so i would love to know your suggestions to help ( me and my wife love each other and our son is growing up ) *

Thanks ! 

[Daphne . 1,954]

4 minutes ago, Alex2019 said:

yes i understand !! 

so it's been 2 years we got married ( our son is 8 months old ) and we are about to send the folder 

this is the third time she visits me and each time she stay 3 months with me 

we talked 7 months before she came here the first time and after one month of her being here we got married

i'm 3 years older than her ( 20s)

we have the same religion 

we have a lot of pictures show our love with my family and our son ( and beautiful wedding with  70 invitation )

i was sending for her money after she got pregnant and i have proves

 

So that sounds pretty good, hopefully the CO will also see it that way 🤞🏻

Please also read @JFH's comment about sponsorship carefully too, it is not just about taking you in and feeding you. This is a long term financial responsibility for you.

[Crazy Cat 42,656]

1 minute ago, Alex2019 said:

what you are saying is very right and it makes a lot of sense to me .

what do you suggest to help the situation ? ,do you think show them i will bring money with me i( like 4.000 dollars ) is helpful  ? or show them my dilpoma or my level of english ?

you obviously know better than me in all this so i would love to know your suggestions to help ( me and my wife love each other and our son is growing up ) *

Thanks ! 

Have you considered moving them to your country to live?

[Mounir Ali 0]

 

18 minutes ago, missileman said:

Have you considered moving them to your country to live?

yes !! this is what i was planning to do when we got married ( i don't have a problem where to live as long as i'm with my wife and son )

i really don't wanna go into details but after 3 months of her being here she told me she can't live here ( her learning disability  is one of the reasons )

[JFH 12,191]

46 minutes ago, Alex2019 said:

what you are saying is very right and it makes a lot of sense to me .

what do you suggest to help the situation ? ,do you think show them i will bring money with me i( like 4.000 dollars ) is helpful  ? or show them my dilpoma or my level of english ?

you obviously know better than me in all this so i would love to know your suggestions to help ( me and my wife love each other and our son is growing up ) *

Thanks ! 

Your qualifications won’t help or hinder your case. Your savings don’t go far here and you don’t need to show anything like that. 

 

What you need to remember is that the officials who make the decisions don’t base their decisions on “what if’s”, they use facts. So, you will still need to overcome the public charge issue even if you hold 10 degrees, speak 15 languages fluently and have never been unemployed in your life. Whilst statistically you should have a good chance of getting a job here, the officials will only look at known facts, not probable outcomes. 

 

The facts that they use for your case are:

 

- your wife does not work and is not able to work

- she has a very modest income from the government 

- she is already having to support a child on that low amount

- she wants to add another adult to the household who is not entitled to any public assistance 

 

They don’t take into account “hopefully I’ll get a job” or “I have these qualifications for this job” because these are all things that are not guaranteed. I had a job offer before I had my embassy interview. The salary was $72,000 a year. We are a household of two (just my husband and me). Even with a written job offer I still had to have a joint sponsor as my husband was unemployed at the time of my interview. They only look at things which have actually happened/already exist. Not promises, hopes, potential situations. 

 

 

 

[Mounir Ali 0]

17 minutes ago, JFH said:

Your qualifications won’t help or hinder your case. Your savings don’t go far here and you don’t need to show anything like that. 

 

What you need to remember is that the officials who make the decisions don’t base their decisions on “what if’s”, they use facts. So, you will still need to overcome the public charge issue even if you hold 10 degrees, speak 15 languages fluently and have never been unemployed in your life. Whilst statistically you should have a good chance of getting a job here, the officials will only look at known facts, not probable outcomes. 

 

The facts that they use for your case are:

 

- your wife does not work and is not able to work

- she has a very modest income from the government 

- she is already having to support a child on that low amount

- she wants to add another adult to the household who is not entitled to any public assistance 

 

They don’t take into account “hopefully I’ll get a job” or “I have these qualifications for this job” because these are all things that are not guaranteed. I had a job offer before I had my embassy interview. The salary was $72,000 a year. We are a household of two (just my husband and me). Even with a written job offer I still had to have a joint sponsor as my husband was unemployed at the time of my interview. They only look at things which have actually happened/already exist. Not promises, hopes, potential situations. 

 

 

 

I understand !! And again it makes sense 

So is there any way we can strentgh our financial case or do we need just to send the folder with her granpa sponsoring me and wait for the rest ? 

Thanks 

PS : they don't ask for co sponsor in green card lottery ... people who have been selected only need an address of someome living there and they got approved ! This doesnt make sense for me 

 

[JFH 12,191]

3 minutes ago, Alex2019 said:

I understand !! And again it makes sense 

So is there any way we can strentgh our financial case or do we need just to send the folder with her granpa sponsoring me and wait for the rest ? 

Thanks 

PS : they don't ask for co sponsor in green card lottery ... people who have been selected only need an address of someome living there and they got approved ! This doesnt make sense for me 

 

I agree. It doesn’t make sense at all. It’s a crazy rule for spouses. Even fiancés only have to show 100% of the poverty level for the embassy interview and they are bringing someone into the country who cannot legally work for many months. But spouses, who can work from day 1, have to show 125%. Also a spouse is the person you would do anything for. Although my husband was unemployed at the time of my interview he took the first job he found because he loves me more than anyone else in the world and wanted us to be able to be together. The absolute last thing he would want to happen is see me having to apply for welfare. He’s much too proud for that. So, although we live in cold and wet Washington state, he took a job in a cemetery, outside all day in the cold and rain. That’s what you do for the one you love. Do DV winners have someone here who would go to such lengths to support them? Highly unlikely. 

[Mounir Ali 0]

43 minutes ago, JFH said:

I agree. It doesn’t make sense at all. It’s a crazy rule for spouses. Even fiancés only have to show 100% of the poverty level for the embassy interview and they are bringing someone into the country who cannot legally work for many months. But spouses, who can work from day 1, have to show 125%. Also a spouse is the person you would do anything for. Although my husband was unemployed at the time of my interview he took the first job he found because he loves me more than anyone else in the world and wanted us to be able to be together. The absolute last thing he would want to happen is see me having to apply for welfare. He’s much too proud for that. So, although we live in cold and wet Washington state, he took a job in a cemetery, outside all day in the cold and rain. That’s what you do for the one you love. Do DV winners have someone here who would go to such lengths to support them? Highly unlikely. 

Yes totally true and DV winnees have no one over there and almost of them dont even talk or write one sentence of english ...but this is life , people who made the laws are humans being and they are not perfect so 

- I would love to know from you what can me and my wife do to strenght our financial case other than what we have now 

- And also will the fact of her being unemployed will make our chances very low ? ( even her granpa will sponsor me )  . Do they deny people a lot because of that ? 

Thanks 

 

[HuberKimFamily 29]

Hey!

 

So I think that everyone here has given you great responses about the reality of the situation.

 

Since you are moving to the USA, is it possible for you to work and take the language courses?

It is better to have far more than $4,000 cash. Maybe more like over 100K of cash or have a job offer. Which is the tricky part.

 

Also I think it might be best for your wife to find a job and have a therapist who can help her through the issues so that she may work. 

 

Good luck~

[Mounir Ali 0]

1 hour ago, HuberKimFamily said:

Hey!

 

So I think that everyone here has given you great responses about the reality of the situation.

 

Since you are moving to the USA, is it possible for you to work and take the language courses?

It is better to have far more than $4,000 cash. Maybe more like over 100K of cash or have a job offer. Which is the tricky part.

 

Also I think it might be best for your wife to find a job and have a therapist who can help her through the issues so that she may work. 

 

Good luck~

My wife can't work we tried that before and it didn't help and i only have $4,000 and her granpa is a manager of a store and he will sponsor me

 Will i get denied if we keep the situation like that ?  

[SalishSea 18,234]

5 hours ago, Alex2019 said:

My wife can't work we tried that before and it didn't help and i only have $4,000 and her granpa is a manager of a store and he will sponsor me

 Will i get denied if we keep the situation like that ?  

There are no absolutes or guarantees.  The IO will look at the totality of the situation when determining how likely you are to become a public charge.

[SalishSea 18,234]

On 7/14/2019 at 4:38 AM, Alex2019 said:

i mean why will they look at her ability to work instead of looking at my ability to work 

Because she is the petitioner, and there are criteria for petitioning immigrants.  Immigration is expensive.  And btw, many people with learning disabilities are able (and willing) to work.