Form i864 (merged topics)

[LilyJ 1,258]

5 hours ago, SCOREAU said:

Okay. I realise that achieving the poverty level isn't the only stipulation, but I am in good health, no criminal record, no mental issues to worry about, and we are going to buy her brother's house once we sell up. The house will be very cheap and even after buying it, we still achieve the poverty level easily. Honestly, if it's going to be rejected based on our circumstances, then I'll be very surprised - and I don't say it boastfully. My wife and daughter could just move over no problem as they are citizens, so allowing me over based on the above should be seen in a positive light.

We have been married 12 years and have an 11 year old daughter, and decided that now is a good time to make the move - and I'm more than happy to make my wife's desire to be realised - and our daughter.

I think the safest bet is, in addition to your assets, to find a joint sponsor who meets the required 125% poverty level (preferably more than) based on income as the CO is likely to want to see that there is some sponsor that has an ongoing job and continuous income, unless your wife wants to go back to the US early and find a job that meets that 125% or more beforehand (which she'll have to establish domicile in the US anyways)

[SCOREAU 36]

On 8/2/2019 at 9:44 PM, LilyJ said:

I think the safest bet is, in addition to your assets, to find a joint sponsor who meets the required 125% poverty level (preferably more than) based on income as the CO is likely to want to see that there is some sponsor that has an ongoing job and continuous income, unless your wife wants to go back to the US early and find a job that meets that 125% or more beforehand (which she'll have to establish domicile in the US anyways)

But my point is, she can move there tomorrow unchecked, and my addition to the household is a bonus because I have over 200,000 dollars in assets.

The form says assets can be used, so I'm puzzled at this idea that I need more to vouch for it. Tbh, it browns me off because you have a virtually open southern border with people pouring in every day with nothing to their name, and I have to bend over backwards with all this kerfuffle.

Edited August 7, 2019 by SCOREAU

[SCOREAU 36]

My usa wife didn't file her tax returns while living in the UK with me.

She sent an amnesty letter to IRS Texas.

She is now filling her tax return forms out now. Only 1 year, did she earn over the 12k.

My i864 is solely based on the assets we have in UK.

If the i864 is based on assets ( because she is here and not earning at the moment anyway ), can't I just attend the interview with all the required documents if it isn't dependant on her income, as it is 0 and she is here?

[aaron2020 11,651]

Her tax return is a required document. 

No tax return = a visa can not be issued since your required documents is not complete = no reason to interview you.  

[aaron2020 11,651]

23 hours ago, SCOREAU said:

Tbh, it browns me off because you have a virtually open southern border with people pouring in every day with nothing to their name, and I have to bend over backwards with all this kerfuffle.

By all means, you are welcome to enter through our "virtually open southern border" if you don't want to "bend over backwards" to meet the requirements.  

If you think people who enter through the open southern border are being treated better than you, then you should take the better route.  

 

Edited August 8, 2019 by aaron2020

[SCOREAU 36]

12 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

By all means, you are welcome to enter through our "virtually open southern border" if you don't want to "bend over backwards" to meet the requirements.  

If you think people who enter through the open southern border are being treated better than you, then you should take the better route.  
I was just sounding off. I think I'll just deal with the application and do my best. If it doesn't succeed after everything, then never mind. 
 

 

Edited August 8, 2019 by SCOREAU

[Hank_ 9,174]

4 hours ago, aaron2020 said:

Her tax return is a required document. 

No tax return = a visa can not be issued since your required documents is not complete = no reason to interview you.  

That isn't true.   My wife got her visa and I did not present a tax return ...   I did complete & present an IRS form showing I was not required to file a tax return    Did the same for AOS... no tax return

 

I did have evidence of income to satisfy that requirement

Edited August 8, 2019 by Hank_

[SCOREAU 36]

21 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

That isn't true.   My wife got her visa and I did not present a tax return ...   I did complete & present an IRS form showing I was not required to file a tax return    Did the same for AOS... no tax return

 

I did have evidence of income to satisfy that requirement

Hank, my wife earnt just over 12000 $ in one year and was below that for each year either side. Before that, she wasn't working. So she's done an amnesty letter which was received in Texas last week, and now completing the welter of forms to file them. Now, I'm not sure about when to book my med and interview because my wife is stressed out and I don't want to hound her at the moment. Basically, I know I need to submit the i864 with the tax questions answered but what do I need to show the CO in terms of paperwork? Will it be a confirmation from IRS that they are filed?

[aaron2020 11,651]

42 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

That isn't true.   My wife got her visa and I did not present a tax return ...   I did complete & present an IRS form showing I was not required to file a tax return    Did the same for AOS... no tax return

 

I did have evidence of income to satisfy that requirement

You were not required to file a tax return.  OP's wife is required to file a tax return.  Big difference.  

[Hank_ 9,174]

8 minutes ago, SCOREAU said:

Hank, my wife earnt just over 12000 $ in one year and was below that for each year either side. Before that, she wasn't working. So she's done an amnesty letter which was received in Texas last week, and now completing the welter of forms to file them. Now, I'm not sure about when to book my med and interview because my wife is stressed out and I don't want to hound her at the moment. Basically, I know I need to submit the i864 with the tax questions answered but what do I need to show the CO in terms of paperwork? Will it be a confirmation from IRS that they are filed?

Once your wife files her taxes she can send you a copy of her tax return, if the embassy wants tax transcripts you will have to wait for the IRS to finalize her tax return the she can go online to request the transcript.

She will also have to complete the I-864

 

How you addressing the income shortfall for meeting the Poverty Guidelines?   Do you have a co-sponsor ?

 

[SCOREAU 36]

10 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

Once your wife files her taxes she can send you a copy of her tax return, if the embassy wants tax transcripts you will have to wait for the IRS to finalize her tax return the she can go online to request the transcript.

She will also have to complete the I-864

 

How you addressing the income shortfall for meeting the Poverty Guidelines?   Do you have a co-sponsor ?

 

Hank, the poverty level requirement is being covered by a uk house sale and my work pension and lump sums. Achieving the requirement in assets is covered easily.

It cannot be based on her income as it's now zero in uk, so it's based on pure assets.

On top of that, I have another pension and lump sums available from next Autumn, so I know we will be fine, and my wife plans on getting a job, but she won't be under pressure to do that urgently. We are buying a relative's house ( all legally ) for a relatively small sum. If I didn't think we'd cope financially, I wouldn't be trying to get there. I'm a cautious soul, and just trying to make my wife's dream happen.

[Hank_ 9,174]

2 minutes ago, SCOREAU said:

Hank, the poverty level requirement is being covered by a uk house sale and my work pension and lump sums. Achieving the requirement in assets is covered easily.

It cannot be based on her income as it's now zero in uk, so it's based on pure assets.

On top of that, I have another pension and lump sums available from next Autumn, so I know we will be fine, and my wife plans on getting a job, but she won't be under pressure to do that urgently. We are buying a relative's house ( all legally ) for a relatively small sum. If I didn't think we'd cope financially, I wouldn't be trying to get there. I'm a cautious soul, and just trying to make my wife's dream happen.

You have a good head on your shoulders!    

 

Now you just need patience ...  it will all come to be.

[SCOREAU 36]

7 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

You have a good head on your shoulders!    

 

Now you just need patience ...  it will all come to be.

I appreciate that. I'll try!

[SCOREAU 36]

We are applying based on assets. On the i864 it asks for value of house after amount owed, and bank account balance. It does not ask for any details of credit cards owing, etc. It also doesn't ask for details of how we will fund for housing over there. Obviously, both these factors can affect the figure offered as assets. Would I factor them in before offering the assets figures on the form, subtracting, say, any card debt and rent figure/housing costs? I'm unsure.

Thanks

[Ryan H 3,823]

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