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[nosleep 130]

1 hour ago, Jorgedig said:

Exactly, because visa overstay data shows that visitors from certain countries are far more likely to overstay than others.  Part of the whole reason the VWP exists.

Unfortunately the government doesn't seem to have the will or desire to take action on those who overstay which practically encourages further bad behavior.  As a result, there are a lot of legitimate people with the lawful intentions who pay the price... but that's getting a bit off topic here.  

[SalishSea 18,238]

1 minute ago, nosleep said:

Unfortunately the government doesn't seem to have the will or desire to take action on those who overstay which practically encourages further bad behavior.  As a result, there are a lot of legitimate people with the lawful intentions who pay the price... but that's getting a bit off topic here.  

It also comes down to resources, regardless of the politics of who is in office.  It is easier to assess overstay potential at consular interviews vs. tracking people down once here.

 

Citizens of countries with high B visa denial rates have their fellow countrymen to blame for that.

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

4 minutes ago, nosleep said:

Unfortunately the government doesn't seem to have the will or desire to take action on those who overstay which practically encourages further bad behavior.  As a result, there are a lot of legitimate people with the lawful intentions who pay the price... but that's getting a bit off topic here.  

Been discussed ad Infinitum in this forum.

[Sukie 1,479]

2 hours ago, nosleep said:

Unfortunately the government doesn't seem to have the will or desire to take action on those who overstay which practically encourages further bad behavior.  As a result, there are a lot of legitimate people with the lawful intentions who pay the price... but that's getting a bit off topic here.  

I have always been curious as to why the US does not require people to go through an emigration line when exiting the US.  I have lived in Japan, Hong Kong, Germany and Australia, and each of these countries checks you IN and OUT of the country, whether you are a visitor, temporary resident, permanent resident or citizen.  Curious minds want to know...does anyone know why the US is so lax on exit?

 

Sukie in NY

[Lil bear 4,375]

1 minute ago, Sukie said:

I have always been curious as to why the US does not require people to go through an emigration line when exiting the US.  I have lived in Japan, Hong Kong, Germany and Australia, and each of these countries checks you IN and OUT of the country, whether you are a visitor, temporary resident, permanent resident or citizen.  Curious minds want to know...does anyone know why the US is so lax on exit?

 

Sukie in NY

I would say they use the airline check in process.. where they swipe your passport etc .. as exit info for air travel at least.  I remember the days of handing over the green tear off slip .. i94 receipt.... which had been stapled in my passport on entry .. major issues if it was still in your passport on boarding ! 

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

21 minutes ago, Sukie said:

I have always been curious as to why the US does not require people to go through an emigration line when exiting the US.  I have lived in Japan, Hong Kong, Germany and Australia, and each of these countries checks you IN and OUT of the country, whether you are a visitor, temporary resident, permanent resident or citizen.  Curious minds want to know...does anyone know why the US is so lax on exit?

 

Sukie in NY

The airlines collect all the information for them. They don’t really care if you leave, so long as they know to keep you out if they need to. There are other countries that don’t do formal exit controls.

[geowrian 22,338]

21 minutes ago, Sukie said:

I have always been curious as to why the US does not require people to go through an emigration line when exiting the US.  I have lived in Japan, Hong Kong, Germany and Australia, and each of these countries checks you IN and OUT of the country, whether you are a visitor, temporary resident, permanent resident or citizen.  Curious minds want to know...does anyone know why the US is so lax on exit?

As long as you aren't on some sort of no-fly list or in arres for something, I'm not sure the US cares why you leave. You're leaving....if you overstayed, your visa is invalid and if it was 180+ days you have a ban.

[NikLR 13,232]

1 hour ago, Lil bear said:

I would say they use the airline check in process.. where they swipe your passport etc .. as exit info for air travel at least.  I remember the days of handing over the green tear off slip .. i94 receipt.... which had been stapled in my passport on entry .. major issues if it was still in your passport on boarding ! 

I'd agree with this. That's why it's such a big deal to cancel a round trip ticket on a K1. 

[Just Paul 4,595]

1 hour ago, Sukie said:

does anyone know why the US is so lax on exit

It is done quietly in the background with technology.

[Lil bear 4,375]

5 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

It is done quietly in the background with technology.

Slight diversion from the OP but following recent posts .. I entered internationally at DFW 48 hrs ago .. used Global Entry as usual .. NO GC scanning or finger prints at all ..  photo taken and CBP slip printed ... purely facial recognition .. scary ! 

[nosleep 130]

1 minute ago, Lil bear said:

Slight diversion from the OP but following recent posts .. I entered internationally at DFW 48 hrs ago .. used Global Entry as usual .. NO GC scanning or finger prints at all ..  photo taken and CBP slip printed ... purely facial recognition .. scary ! 

I noticed that last week also when I returned from China.  I have global entry also and when i scanned my passport it never asked for finger prints; it only said to look in the camera and the entry slip printed..  This is the first time they didn't ask for fingerprints and relied on facial recognition only.  BTW, this was entering through DTW.

 

[Lil bear 4,375]

2 minutes ago, nosleep said:

I noticed that last week also when I returned from China.  I have global entry also and when i scanned my passport it never asked for finger prints; it only said to look in the camera and the entry slip printed..  This is the first time they didn't ask for fingerprints and relied on facial recognition only.  BTW, this was entering through DTW.

 

I didn’t even need to scan either GC or passport 

[Pitaya 2,577]

8 hours ago, nosleep said:

Unfortunately the government doesn't seem to have the will or desire to take action on those who overstay which practically encourages further bad behavior.  As a result, there are a lot of legitimate people with the lawful intentions who pay the price... but that's getting a bit off topic here.  

Yep, you are preaching to the choir.......we all know this mantra all too well......

[Pitaya 2,577]

4 hours ago, nosleep said:

I noticed that last week also when I returned from China.  I have global entry also and when i scanned my passport it never asked for finger prints; it only said to look in the camera and the entry slip printed..  This is the first time they didn't ask for fingerprints and relied on facial recognition only.  BTW, this was entering through DTW.

 

When my now wife and myself were doing the K visa shuffle, I certainly wished that I had availed myself of the global entry program. Who knows, maybe I would have been put on the revolving pedestal and spun around with several Chinese immigration folks wanting me down with their metal detectors. BTW, that was Beijing Capital Airport in 2012. So, what did I do, got global entry card, the then-fiancee got her K1, came to the US. I haven't made a return trip to the Middle Kingdom since we got married. And life goes on. 

 

Immigration officials have a pretty effective deterrence for some folks trying to come to the US from China for a visit. In our specific case, it was called the USC gets the Chinese visa, hops on the plane and visits his fiancee. It became pretty clear to me why the Guangzhou US consulate is a tough place to try to obtain a visitor visa from China to the US. Now this was the old consulate, but I sat across the street from the consulate in the park early in the morning, and slow watched the critical mass of people grow and grow that were trying to jam their way past the teller lines trying to get a visa (presumed). The police had a portable police station in the plaza, to make folks aware of the public security service presence, and maintain order.

 

But that was a place long ago, and far away.

 

God bless our republic ! 

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

Oh wow...I’m returning this week, also global entry...will be interesting to see this! (Wonder if it’s rolled out everywhere yet? We fly into SFO.)

 

back to the the question on exit - as said, no apparent control, but it’s all there online and you can even check it yourself.