Interview today. More evidence requested

[Ashweehehe 20]

2 minutes ago, Ash. said:

I would just go ahead and inquire and start getting the I864 forms filled out, they’re a little longer than the I-134.

Already started 🙈 

[TheSkywalkers 143]

13 hours ago, Ashweehehe said:

So I’ve had my interview today and we’ve been issues with a 221g and request for more info.  

Back story.  My fiancé was made redundant out of the blue, and so we had his dad also fill out a affidavit of support also to co sponsor. 

The interviewer says one of them filled out the wrong affidavit of support form.  Is there different ones for a co sponsor? They’ve also asked for a IRS Transcript even though the joint sponsor provided w2s.  

 

The co-sponsor has to provide the same documents that the petitioner needs to provide. So with the petitioner being required to provide Tax Transcripts, the co-sponsor must do the same. For K1, make sure you use form I-134 for the affidavit of support and the co-sponsor will fill out and sign the same form. Before you send them anything back, double check and make sure all fields that need to be filled out are properly answered. Failing to tick a box that should've been answered can significantly change your timeline in the process. 

 

All the best!

[Ashweehehe 20]

1 hour ago, TheSkywalkers said:

The co-sponsor has to provide the same documents that the petitioner needs to provide. So with the petitioner being required to provide Tax Transcripts, the co-sponsor must do the same. For K1, make sure you use form I-134 for the affidavit of support and the co-sponsor will fill out and sign the same form. Before you send them anything back, double check and make sure all fields that need to be filled out are properly answered. Failing to tick a box that should've been answered can significantly change your timeline in the process. 

 

All the best!

Both petitioner and cosponsor had filled out the I-134 but they have now requested a i-864

[Boiler 45,525]

The @ thingy does not work on VJ.

 

I self sponsored and was surprised that they showed little interest and later realised that they were just looking to see you had enough for 90 days, everything I have seen since my time has supported that for London.

 

What happened here? I would start with the simple option first, a mistake. 

[Shiran 1,134]

9 hours ago, Ashweehehe said:

Already started 🙈 

With all the arguing back and forth about which form, please do not miss the important part. They want Tax transcripts. Lack of tax transcripts, is what kicked that whole thing of, not wrong form. So make sure both of your co-sponsors go to https://www.irs.gov/individuals/get-transcript and get transcripts for "Income Verification" for last 3 years. 

[Ashweehehe 20]

2 hours ago, Shiran said:

With all the arguing back and forth about which form, please do not miss the important part. They want Tax transcripts. Lack of tax transcripts, is what kicked that whole thing of, not wrong form. So make sure both of your co-sponsors go to https://www.irs.gov/individuals/get-transcript and get transcripts for "Income Verification" for last 3 years. 

Thank you, they had got straight on that and ordered them yesterday. 

[Ashweehehe 20]

19 hours ago, Wuozopo said:

 

ashwee---

I would contact the embassy and say:

 

I need clarification on a 221(g) received at my K1 Fiancé interview on June 20, 2019. It is marked and circled to submit Forms I-864 instead of the I-134s which I submitted from both my fiancé and a co-sponsor. Your K1 instructions say "K and Diversity visa applicants are not required to provide an I-864 Form." The 9 FAM 302.8-2(B)(2)(f)(3) says a K1 fiancé is not authorized to use Form I-864 and should provide Form I-134, which I did provide.

Question: Why am I asked in a 221(g) to provide an I-864 for my K1 Nonimmigrant visa?  Is that a mistake or a new requirement? 

 

Here is the contact form you use https://uk.usembassy.gov/iv-contact/

 

 

The embassy have contacted me back this morning with a reply which I have attached. 

I have replied saying that this is what I have handed over.  

Hope you don’t mind the quote, I was hoping I could pick your brain on it. At this point do you think it could of been a mistake made yesterday? 

[Ashweehehe 20]

19 hours ago, Greenbaum said:

My guess is the cosponsor, as a 864 can be enforceable where the 134 is not. 

Sorry for the quote I am unable to tag you, any chance you could look at the email I attached above and give your opinion at this stage? 

[Wuozopo 4,293]

17 minutes ago, Ashweehehe said:

The embassy have contacted me back this morning with a reply which I have attached. 

I have replied saying that this is what I have handed over.  

Hope you don’t mind the quote, I was hoping I could pick your brain on it. At this point do you think it could of been a mistake made yesterday? 

I always thought it was a mistake and their reply does not change my mind. 

 

They spun you some canned phrases but did not answer the question Was this a mistake or a new requirement?

 

They said "if you will be providing..." Well you said in your first contact that you provided I-134s. Twice said even.

 

They did not address the Foreign Affairs Manual reference that a K1 is not authorized to submit I-864. 

 

When I get customer service replies like that, I write back something like this....

You did not read what what I said or answer my questions. I DID submit I-134 from two US citizens, my fiancé and his father. I was told by the officer that an I-134 was the wrong form. I quoted your website instructions and the FAM stating I-134 is the correct form for a K1 nonimmigrant. So please tell me if that was a mistake to ask for an I-864 when the FAM seems to prohibit  it for a K1. Tell me yes or no if I  have to submit I-864 before I will be allowed a K1 visa.  I followed the instructions to K1s on your website, yet got told I brought the wrong forms. This is putting an extra delay in my visa issuance and wedding plans, a process I started over eight months ago. 

 

 

Meanwhile, I would be getting the tax return transcripts and I-864s figured out. The form is much more complicated. 

 

[Boiler 45,525]

As expected they just want the I 134.

[Greenbaum 12,259]

2 hours ago, Ashweehehe said:

Sorry for the quote I am unable to tag you, any chance you could look at the email I attached above and give your opinion at this stage? 

I agree with @Wuozopo. The reply has not addressed the "complaint" and therefore I agree a reply sighting their reply where a non answer was given. I suspect that they know that you are not stupid and they were caught not abiding with the "bylaws" for the adjudication of a K1 visa. So this was their weak attempt to apease you. JMHO.

[Wuozopo 4,293]

1 minute ago, Greenbaum said:

So this was their weak attempt to apease you. JMHO.

Agree. It's mumbo jumbo BS to cover the officer's mistake without throwing her under the bus. Maybe she needed a coffee break and flipped over to spouse visa mode.  

 

The I-134 is the form for a K1. London has accepted many, many, without a tax return going back the 10 years I have followed. By that, I mean they have been provided several things and the document person picks out an employer letter or W2 and hands the rest back. The office never even sees the rest of it. It happen to me. It happen this year and this month.

 

 

[Wuozopo 4,293]

You know, if they would just write back and say the I-134 is the correct form, BUT the officer was not convinced and would rather see a more detailed support form and tax transcript before making a decision. Then you would have a decent answer. 

[Ashweehehe 20]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

As expected they just want the I 134.

Agreed and they currently have those along with my passports and everything else. 

My only worry is what do I send with the 221g other than the transcripts. 

[Ashweehehe 20]

1 hour ago, Wuozopo said:

You know, if they would just write back and say the I-134 is the correct form, BUT the officer was not convinced and would rather see a more detailed support form and tax transcript before making a decision. Then you would have a decent answer. 

Yes totally agree with this. 

I believe she is wanting confirmation from the transcripts because of the k2s travelling with me. 

The more my head clears from the confusion and stress it does seem like she may have been mistaken. 

When she first said “one of them had submitted the incorrect form” I questioned her who and which form was needed.  She waved her hand over towards both of the I-134 forms and said I’ll give you the information on which form in a moment.  She then picked at the i-134s not actually reading much of the forms but looked for a moment at the w2. She then said that she wanted more evidence to show that the k2s will be supported.  (The w2 exceeds the 125% poverty guideline) this is when she got the 221g out,  marked and underline the i864 and started to circle it. Then marked and fully circled the tax transcripts areas as seen in previous photos.  

Is it wrong of me to think that she stopped halfway through circling the i864 part because she realised she had made a mistake, but wasn’t about to admit it?