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Help! I'm confused by the decree vs certificate. On the I-129f requirements it says divorce decree. Then in packet 3 it says divorce certificate. So what my fiance has is a divorce decree. It's just on regular paper, with a raised seal and a stamp. I was googling divorce certificates in Ohio and the only thing that shows up is divorce decree. I wonder if this is one and the same (but if you do a Google search, decree and certificate are different). I didn't get an RFE when we submitted the decree so I'm hoping that this will suffice? Any Ohio petitioners out there? 

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6 minutes ago, KristineGB said:

Help! I'm confused by the decree vs certificate. On the I-129f requirements it says divorce decree. Then in packet 3 it says divorce certificate. So what my fiance has is a divorce decree. It's just on regular paper, with a raised seal and a stamp. I was googling divorce certificates in Ohio and the only thing that shows up is divorce decree. I wonder if this is one and the same (but if you do a Google search, decree and certificate are different). I didn't get an RFE when we submitted the decree so I'm hoping that this will suffice? Any Ohio petitioners out there? 

I think you're right, it varies by state.  My state does issue a certified divorce certificate, which is a single page.  To be safe, I sent my entire final divorce decree with my petition, as I wasn't sure that the certificate alone would be adequate.  

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Divorce decree, and divorce certificates both are acceptable to USCIS and US embassies overseas. Divorce decrees are ordered from the courts where divorce was finalized if it went to the court. There are divorces that didn't go to court and decided but registered in county clerk's offices or registered in county courts and then these offices issued divorce certificates. Similarly, in Pakistan and many other countries where divorces are settled without the need of court and both parties notifies the recording authorities such as NADRA and they issued divorce certificates, whereas if the divorces are settled with a court order then it is a divorce decree. Irrespective of what the 3.5 letter says, if you have decree or a certificate just submit. By the way I came to this site after almost 4 years :) and I am divorced with 4 months of my marriage with my K-1 fiance :) ........... So, don't rush to marry 

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5 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

I think you're right, it varies by state.  My state does issue a certified divorce certificate, which is a single page.  To be safe, I sent my entire final divorce decree with my petition, as I wasn't sure that the certificate alone would be adequate.  

Thank you. Yes, I think Florida and Idaho have certificates. I will ask my fiance to call the probate court to be extra sure.

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5 minutes ago, SalSterling said:

Divorce decrees are ordered from the courts where divorce was finalized if it went to the court. There are divorces that didn't go to court and decided but registered in county clerk's offices or registered in county courts and then these offices issued divorce certificates.

This may be the case in your particular county, but not where I live.  We did not go to court and have both a certificate and a decree.

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3 minutes ago, SalSterling said:

Divorce decree, and divorce certificates both are acceptable to USCIS and US embassies overseas. Divorce decrees are ordered from the courts where divorce was finalized if it went to the court. There are divorces that didn't go to court and decided but registered in county clerk's offices or registered in county courts and then these offices issued divorce certificates. Similarly, in Pakistan and many other countries where divorces are settled without the need of court and both parties notifies the recording authorities such as NADRA and they issued divorce certificates, whereas if the divorces are settled with a court order then it is a divorce decree. Irrespective of what the 3.5 letter says, if you have decree or a certificate just submit. By the way I came to this site after almost 4 years :) and I am divorced with 4 months of my marriage with my K-1 fiance :) ........... So, don't rush to marry 

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Oh that is such a relief to hear. Yeah I think his was the county clerk because it has the stamp of the clerk. Oh I'm sorry to hear about your divorce. I hope you are okay? 

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1 minute ago, Jorgedig said:

This may be the case in your particular county, but not where I live.  We did not go to court and have both a certificate and a decree.

I see. This is so hard to understand because it varies so much. Theirs is actually a dissolution of marriage but they had to file it at the courthouse... and the papers have the county clerk's stamp. 

10 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

I think you're right, it varies by state.  My state does issue a certified divorce certificate, which is a single page.  To be safe, I sent my entire final divorce decree with my petition, as I wasn't sure that the certificate alone would be adequate.  

Did you have to request the divorce certificate? Or was it handed to you when you first received the final divorce decree

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3 minutes ago, KristineGB said:

I see. This is so hard to understand because it varies so much. Theirs is actually a dissolution of marriage but they had to file it at the courthouse... and the papers have the county clerk's stamp. 

Did you have to request the divorce certificate? Or was it handed to you when you first received the final divorce decree

Sounds just like ours.  I sent away for a certified copy of the divorce certificate, as I had never received one previously.  I was worried it wouldn't be enough, so I then sent away for a certified copy of the final decree of dissolution, as the copy I had was given to me by my lawyer before being signed by the judge and recorded by the county.  

 

 

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1 minute ago, Jorgedig said:

Sounds just like ours.  I sent away for a certified copy of the divorce certificate, as I had never received one previously.  I was worried it wouldn't be enough, so I then sent away for a certified copy of the final decree of dissolution, as the copy I had was given to me by my lawyer before being signed by the judge and recorded by the county.  

 

 

Okay. Ill ask fiance to call and see if they issue certificates. If not, i’ll just bring the decree. Thank you!

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@KristineGB Oh, I am doing great and I am glad that my EX unable to get the green card and had to leave US. Sometimes, I just feel like to love Donald Trump :) who made it impossible for anyone who try to deceives a US citizen or the laws of US immigration, but I am so very mean that I am still not going to vote for him :) 

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1 minute ago, SalSterling said:

@KristineGB Oh, I am doing great and I am glad that my EX unable to get the green card and had to leave US. Sometimes, I just feel like to love Donald Trump :) who made it impossible for anyone who try to deceives a US citizen or the laws of US immigration, but I am so very mean that I am still not going to vote for him :) 

Lol. Well i am glad you are well

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Just now, JFH said:

Please don’t post the same question twice. I will ask for the threads to be merged. 

I was initially trying to post it in Canada forum but couldnt figure out how to do it via mobile. Then I figured it out and was gonna delete the previous one but couldnt figure THAT out via mobile and was gonna delete it when I get home. 

 
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