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[Izor 79]

As a Swede, tell her to go home and petition you to move there, soooooooo much easier to have kids there, not to mention cheaper. I mean "free" healthcare and education. Come on now. 

Edited June 13, 2019 by Izor

[mrandmrsBRS 116]

Well lying is never a good option. And if you do, at least stick to one story and don’t change it...smh

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

Do like how the OP also blamed the kids for causing distractions by being in the same room haha. Mean if an AOS interview isn't important enough to get a baby sitter or put them into daycare I don't know what is.

[JFH 12,191]

31 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

Do like how the OP also blamed the kids for causing distractions by being in the same room haha. Mean if an AOS interview isn't important enough to get a baby sitter or put them into daycare I don't know what is.

Maybe they took the children thinking it would be good evidence of a bona fide marriage. It has been asked here before many times and I know of one forum where the chief moderator actually recommends that people have children together to “prove a bona fide marriage” (yep, they actually use the word “prove”). 

 

Just like the couple who sent pictures of themselves to USCIS  having sex to “prove” the

relationship was genuine... 

[Crazy Cat 42,125]

Deleted.......lol

Edited June 13, 2019 by missileman

[Scandi 4,178]

2 hours ago, missileman said:

This is possibly one of the most significant threads I have seen on VJ...if intent is now being investigated at AOS interviews........Please keep us informed.

That's what I'm saying, and that intent alone got her denied, I assume? I keep hearing on VJ that intent alone isn't enough to get denied.

[Crazy Cat 42,125]

6 minutes ago, JFH said:

Just like the couple who sent pictures of themselves to USCIS  having sex to “prove” the

relationship was genuine... 

I just had a mental image of Mohammed and Danielle........

[debbiedoo 2,339]

OP essentially ADMITTED that she lied at POE.

 

of course she got a NOID.

 

Plenty of people do adjust from a vwp but in our case, we had our NOA2 and were a couple of months from interview, when he came 'home' for xmas and we decided to marry. asked me abot a week before xmas what i wanted and i said to get married. so .. it happend xmas eve in our home, was lucky a friend of ours is a pastor and had the time to do it, my brother and sister were going to be there anyways. no wedding dress. a red xmas dress is what i wore LOL . not to mention the wedding plans for july (Which still stand only now its a party wedding and not a real wedding LOL)

 

and the fact they had a kid and got pregnant SOOOO quick after her arrival in US - who knows they are pregnant at 3 weeks?? thats weird but ok.  i mean all of that really doesnt look good. had they even filed for a K1?

 

so many questions.

2 minutes ago, Scandi said:

That's what I'm saying, and that intent alone got her denied, I assume? I keep hearing on VJ that intent alone isn't enough to get denied.

not usually, and its determined at poe, but if you go back and say ' yeah , well, we knew i was going to stay' - thats a WHOLE other ballgame

 

[JFH 12,191]

4 minutes ago, debbiedoo said:

OP essentially ADMITTED that she lied at POE.

 

of course she got a NOID.

 

Plenty of people do adjust from a vwp but in our case, we had our NOA2 and were a couple of months from interview, when he came 'home' for xmas and we decided to marry. asked me abot a week before xmas what i wanted and i said to get married. so .. it happend xmas eve in our home, was lucky a friend of ours is a pastor and had the time to do it, my brother and sister were going to be there anyways. no wedding dress. a red xmas dress is what i wore LOL . not to mention the wedding plans for july (Which still stand only now its a party wedding and not a real wedding LOL)

 

and the fact they had a kid and got pregnant SOOOO quick after her arrival in US - who knows they are pregnant at 3 weeks?? thats weird but ok.  i mean all of that really doesnt look good. had they even filed for a K1?

 

so many questions.

Maybe she did plan it, maybe she didn’t. No one here is a mind-reader so we can’t know for certain. Fact is, it had been decided in a court of law that intent alone is not enough to deny AOS but it appears (from the little pieces of information we have been given by the OP) that in this case it was used as grounds for denial. 

 

He said she got pregnant 3 weeks after she arrived. And she arrived in February so she would definitely know by now. Not that it matters. Most married couples have sex. And most fertile people become pregnant as a result of that. It’s hardly earth-shattering that a married woman became pregnant after spending 3 weeks with her husband. How else did we all come into being? 

[Cryssiekins 976]

13 minutes ago, JFH said:

Maybe they took the children thinking it would be good evidence of a bona fide marriage. It has been asked here before many times and I know of one forum where the chief moderator actually recommends that people have children together to “prove a bona fide marriage” (yep, they actually use the word “prove”). 

 

Just like the couple who sent pictures of themselves to USCIS  having sex to “prove” the

relationship was genuine... 

Having kids just proves you had sex.  You can do that with anyone.  I despise this argument so much bc it isn’t sensible.  

 

Not to say those that have children aren’t in real relationships, but it’s not the key indicator.  Especially when there are couples who want to have children but cannot, for whatever reason.  A childless relationship isn’t any less real.  

[Scandi 4,178]

2 minutes ago, debbiedoo said:

 

not usually, and its determined at poe, but if you go back and say ' yeah , well, we knew i was going to stay' - thats a WHOLE other ballgame

 

I don't think that's another ballgame at all. No matter what was said at POE she was still let into the country, and later denied for having intent to stay and adjust. Had she lied about something significant I can see USCIS denying her, but this is all about her intent. And only intent. Intent hasn't been an issue in the past, no matter what was said at POE. And CBP determined she had no intent and let her in. This is the first time I have heard of it, are they getting tougher with people who try this route now?

[Crazy Cat 42,125]

1 minute ago, Scandi said:

This is the first time I have heard of it, are they getting tougher with people who try this route now?

If so, this attorney's article is worth heeding:

https://www.soundimmigration.com/can-i-enter-on-a-visitors-visa-b-2-and-then-adjust-status-to-permanent-resident/

[debbiedoo 2,339]

Just now, JFH said:

Maybe she did plan it, maybe she didn’t. No one here is a mind-reader so we can’t know for certain. Fact is, it had been decided in a court of law that intent alone is not enough to deny AOS but it appears (from the little pieces of information we have been given by the OP) that in this case it was used as grounds for denial. 

 

He said she got pregnant 3 weeks after she arrived. And she arrived in February so she would definitely know by now. Not that it matters. Most married couples have sex. And most fertile people become pregnant as a result of that. It’s hardly earth-shattering that a married woman became pregnant after spending 3 weeks with her husband. How else did we all come into being? 

the way i read it was she knew after 3 weeks she was pregnant. i dont care any more about that baby than uscis does lol i also think there has to be other issues or reasons for the noid. something she said or did or something..

 

1 minute ago, Scandi said:

I don't think that's another ballgame at all. No matter what was said at POE she was still let into the country, and later denied for having intent to stay and adjust. Had she lied about something significant I can see USCIS denying her, but this is all about her intent. And only intent. Intent hasn't been an issue in the past, no matter what was said at POE. And CBP determined she had no intent and let her in. This is the first time I have heard of it, are they getting tougher with people who try this route now?

i dunno admitting you lied is a BIGGIE. adjusting from a vwp is allowed, intent is determined at the border but if she told POE one thing then told her interviewer something contradictory - it makes sense they would scrutinize everything about their case more closely

[debbiedoo 2,339]

2 minutes ago, missileman said:

If so, this attorney's article is worth heeding:

https://www.soundimmigration.com/can-i-enter-on-a-visitors-visa-b-2-and-then-adjust-status-to-permanent-resident/

yeah but that is referring to (at the quick scan i did of it) on PLANNING to adjust from a vwp or tourist visa. not sudden and unexpected changes in plans

[Crazy Cat 42,125]

2 minutes ago, debbiedoo said:

but if she told POE one thing then told her interviewer something contradictory - it makes sense they would scrutinize everything about their case more closely

Yep.....the fact that the subject even came up is significant, imo.