Thousands Protest Immigration Bills

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

but again.. i do think a reform or not-reform with the illegals would affect the k1,k-3 process at all.. so what they do... it ain't family visas' businesses

A guest worker plan will mean more applications/petitions filed with USCIS. Depending on how the adjudications are done and how the human resources are allocated, it could affect us.

And if it doesn't... well that's why this conversation is in Off Topic

[pedroh 21]

but don't they have a separate staff? i mean even everybody knows they have a reduced one.. there's like a family visa staff and then the h1b staff? dunno lol

mhh maybe the trump also has some amigos building around NY..

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

but don't they have a separate staff? i mean even everybody knows they have a reduced one.. there's like a family visa staff and then the h1b staff? dunno lol

At any given point of time, yes I believe they do. But I've heard that they do move staff around as workloads increase/decrease. I recall reading on ILW that due to a backlog in TPS visas (no idea what that means anymore) last year, CSC was behind on family I-130s. It does happen.

Edit: Ok, found the article. it's at http://www.immigration.com/fromtheagency/csc9905.html. Scroll down to "CSC prioritizing TPS processing more".

Edited April 3, 2006 by Agent Smith

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Ok, so I heard an interesting thought on the radio this morning. This comes from Donald Trump. Why not leave it as is? Why do we need to reform this at all?

Your thoughts, please.

Leave all as is? No reform of the immigration system and no addressing the illegal alien issue? Or just non action on either of those issues? Or what?

[Fischkoepfin 1]

Here's an article that discusses the biases in the immigration system. Pedroh is right that the official quotas have been abolished, but racial selectivity continues on. A primary example is the lottery which was originally instituted to increase the number of European immigrants from certain countries, but race also plays a role in the approval rates of visa application in family and work related immigration.

dude.. common sense.. just ask around.. a visa from a nice european country takes a lot less than a eastern european country(a.k.a commie countries for americanos) and latin american countries.. and asian countries take forever compared to latin american countries..

Isn't that what I said?

[crashandcari 0]

I've posted my thoughts on all of this on other threads and promised the hubby not to talk much about it cuz IT PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH!!!

Over the weekend here in NY there were protests and every single person interviewed said the same thing: how they SNUCK into this country either by crawling under fences in Texas and California, or by truck etc... That wasn't bad enough but almost every sign they were holding up in protest was in Spanish!!

Now before you all come down on me... let me state my problem:

Yes maybe there should be easier ways for people to be able to get into this country but I'm not the person to talk about that... All I know is that like everyone else here on VJ we are struggling day after day minute by minute being separated by the ones that we love. And thats because what? Europe isn't as close to the US as Mexico so they can't SNEAK in??

But my real issue is this. These people want into America soooo badly.. have a better life for them and their children. Great. LEARN THE FREAKING LANGUAGE!!!! Last time I checked ENGLISH was our national language... If you can't read write or speak English when you get here then learn!!

I know there will posters who strongly oppose my feelings on this but I can't help it. You go to the DMV and everything is on English plus Chinese, Spanish and here in NYC Russian. Am I wrong but aren't our street signs in English? How in the world can you drive in America if you can't speak English (and I'm not talking about road signs that are mostly universal shapes).

Yes I'm aggrevated cuz its been 8 months since our wedding and we are separated. But we are doing things legally and please don't say well we can afford to and not everyone can't. Thats not an answer. A crime is a crime and sneaking into the country well... its a crime. Granted I don't equate it to rape and murder and the like but all the same... Put it this way.. erm why are these people SNEAKING in ?? Because they feel they don't need to go through the legal process the way the rest of us are doing. And now they may get amnesty?? HELLO???? All because people need their cleaning girls and cooks and such....

See.. this is why I promised him I wouldn't post... LOL (Deep breaths)

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Ok, so I heard an interesting thought on the radio this morning. This comes from Donald Trump. Why not leave it as is? Why do we need to reform this at all?

Your thoughts, please.

Leave all as is? No reform of the immigration system and no addressing the illegal alien issue? Or just non action on either of those issues? Or what?

Status quo. Leave the illegals as illegals. Leave the ICE without a budget to do anything about it. That's the argument.

Last time I checked ENGLISH was our national language...

Actually, the United States does not have a "national language".

[Fischkoepfin 1]

Status quo. Leave the illegals as illegals. Leave the ICE without a budget to do anything about it. That's the argument.

Worst idea ever. The status quo is the cause of the problem as are all the attempts to amend previous bills. The system is broken, and it needs to be fixed on the immigration and the enforcement side. Donald Trump has no clue...

[pedroh 21]

Here's an article that discusses the biases in the immigration system. Pedroh is right that the official quotas have been abolished, but racial selectivity continues on. A primary example is the lottery which was originally instituted to increase the number of European immigrants from certain countries, but race also plays a role in the approval rates of visa application in family and work related immigration.

dude.. common sense.. just ask around.. a visa from a nice european country takes a lot less than a eastern european country(a.k.a commie countries for americanos) and latin american countries.. and asian countries take forever compared to latin american countries..

Isn't that what I said?

yes! lol.. i was just paraphrasing it

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Status quo. Leave the illegals as illegals. Leave the ICE without a budget to do anything about it. That's the argument.

Worst idea ever. The status quo is the cause of the problem as are all the attempts to amend previous bills. The system is broken, and it needs to be fixed on the immigration and the enforcement side. Donald Trump has no clue...

I think he's making too much money off the status quo. Change is bad when you're rich

[pedroh 21]

I've posted my thoughts on all of this on other threads and promised the hubby not to talk much about it cuz IT PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH!!!

Over the weekend here in NY there were protests and every single person interviewed said the same thing: how they SNUCK into this country either by crawling under fences in Texas and California, or by truck etc... That wasn't bad enough but almost every sign they were holding up in protest was in Spanish!!

Now before you all come down on me... let me state my problem:

Yes maybe there should be easier ways for people to be able to get into this country but I'm not the person to talk about that... All I know is that like everyone else here on VJ we are struggling day after day minute by minute being separated by the ones that we love. And thats because what? Europe isn't as close to the US as Mexico so they can't SNEAK in??

But my real issue is this. These people want into America soooo badly.. have a better life for them and their children. Great. LEARN THE FREAKING LANGUAGE!!!! Last time I checked ENGLISH was our national language... If you can't read write or speak English when you get here then learn!!

I know there will posters who strongly oppose my feelings on this but I can't help it. You go to the DMV and everything is on English plus Chinese, Spanish and here in NYC Russian. Am I wrong but aren't our street signs in English? How in the world can you drive in America if you can't speak English (and I'm not talking about road signs that are mostly universal shapes).

Yes I'm aggrevated cuz its been 8 months since our wedding and we are separated. But we are doing things legally and please don't say well we can afford to and not everyone can't. Thats not an answer. A crime is a crime and sneaking into the country well... its a crime. Granted I don't equate it to rape and murder and the like but all the same... Put it this way.. erm why are these people SNEAKING in ?? Because they feel they don't need to go through the legal process the way the rest of us are doing. And now they may get amnesty?? HELLO???? All because people need their cleaning girls and cooks and such....

See.. this is why I promised him I wouldn't post... LOL (Deep breaths)

u'll see.. approved or not approved.. family visa is gonna stay the same..

PWNED..

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I've posted my thoughts on all of this on other threads and promised the hubby not to talk much about it cuz IT PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH!!!

Over the weekend here in NY there were protests and every single person interviewed said the same thing: how they SNUCK into this country either by crawling under fences in Texas and California, or by truck etc... That wasn't bad enough but almost every sign they were holding up in protest was in Spanish!!

Now before you all come down on me... let me state my problem:

Yes maybe there should be easier ways for people to be able to get into this country but I'm not the person to talk about that... All I know is that like everyone else here on VJ we are struggling day after day minute by minute being separated by the ones that we love. And thats because what? Europe isn't as close to the US as Mexico so they can't SNEAK in??

But my real issue is this. These people want into America soooo badly.. have a better life for them and their children. Great. LEARN THE FREAKING LANGUAGE!!!! Last time I checked ENGLISH was our national language... If you can't read write or speak English when you get here then learn!!

I know there will posters who strongly oppose my feelings on this but I can't help it. You go to the DMV and everything is on English plus Chinese, Spanish and here in NYC Russian. Am I wrong but aren't our street signs in English? How in the world can you drive in America if you can't speak English (and I'm not talking about road signs that are mostly universal shapes).

Yes I'm aggrevated cuz its been 8 months since our wedding and we are separated. But we are doing things legally and please don't say well we can afford to and not everyone can't. Thats not an answer. A crime is a crime and sneaking into the country well... its a crime. Granted I don't equate it to rape and murder and the like but all the same... Put it this way.. erm why are these people SNEAKING in ?? Because they feel they don't need to go through the legal process the way the rest of us are doing. And now they may get amnesty?? HELLO???? All because people need their cleaning girls and cooks and such....

See.. this is why I promised him I wouldn't post... LOL (Deep breaths)

u'll see.. approved or not approved.. family visa is gonna stay the same..

PWNED..

Pedro,

You should really reserve the use of "PWNED" for when you actually address the argument.

[Fischkoepfin 1]

Yes maybe there should be easier ways for people to be able to get into this country but I'm not the person to talk about that... All I know is that like everyone else here on VJ we are struggling day after day minute by minute being separated by the ones that we love. And thats because what? Europe isn't as close to the US as Mexico so they can't SNEAK in??

They can. There are tons of illegals who are from Europe and they enter just like everyone else. But that is not the right way to do it.

And, at the expense of sounding repetitive, I don't believe that regardless of the time we've been waiting to get in, we should be mad at attempts to reform the system. But we should also be wary of attempts to reform the system that threaten basic rights and stress enforcement over reform. Neither bill is very friendly when it comes to illegal immigrants...

[crashandcari 0]

I've posted my thoughts on all of this on other threads and promised the hubby not to talk much about it cuz IT PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH!!!

Over the weekend here in NY there were protests and every single person interviewed said the same thing: how they SNUCK into this country either by crawling under fences in Texas and California, or by truck etc... That wasn't bad enough but almost every sign they were holding up in protest was in Spanish!!

Now before you all come down on me... let me state my problem:

Yes maybe there should be easier ways for people to be able to get into this country but I'm not the person to talk about that... All I know is that like everyone else here on VJ we are struggling day after day minute by minute being separated by the ones that we love. And thats because what? Europe isn't as close to the US as Mexico so they can't SNEAK in??

But my real issue is this. These people want into America soooo badly.. have a better life for them and their children. Great. LEARN THE FREAKING LANGUAGE!!!! Last time I checked ENGLISH was our national language... If you can't read write or speak English when you get here then learn!!

I know there will posters who strongly oppose my feelings on this but I can't help it. You go to the DMV and everything is on English plus Chinese, Spanish and here in NYC Russian. Am I wrong but aren't our street signs in English? How in the world can you drive in America if you can't speak English (and I'm not talking about road signs that are mostly universal shapes).

Yes I'm aggrevated cuz its been 8 months since our wedding and we are separated. But we are doing things legally and please don't say well we can afford to and not everyone can't. Thats not an answer. A crime is a crime and sneaking into the country well... its a crime. Granted I don't equate it to rape and murder and the like but all the same... Put it this way.. erm why are these people SNEAKING in ?? Because they feel they don't need to go through the legal process the way the rest of us are doing. And now they may get amnesty?? HELLO???? All because people need their cleaning girls and cooks and such....

See.. this is why I promised him I wouldn't post... LOL (Deep breaths)

u'll see.. approved or not approved.. family visa is gonna stay the same..

PWNED..

Pedro,

You should really reserve the use of "PWNED" for when you actually address the argument.

What does that mean? PWNED?

[Fischkoepfin 1]

Status quo. Leave the illegals as illegals. Leave the ICE without a budget to do anything about it. That's the argument.

Worst idea ever. The status quo is the cause of the problem as are all the attempts to amend previous bills. The system is broken, and it needs to be fixed on the immigration and the enforcement side. Donald Trump has no clue...

I think he's making too much money off the status quo. Change is bad when you're rich

Yeah, I've heard that, too.