Manila CR1 Spouse Application with Assets and Income

[Hank_ 9,174]

Yup.   And now we are waiting for you to report back if you got approved using assets.    

[Falcon Cara 378]

1 hour ago, user555 said:

Yes, VJ is a do-it-yourself website that has a lot of great information. How many people apply from the Philippines? Maybe 1,600? (This website said there were 236,526 immigrant visas granted for immediate relatives to the USA last year, so I estimated that 150 countries could apply for a visa so 236,526/150= ~1,600  https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/AnnualReports/FY2018AnnualReport/FY18AnnualReport - TableI.pdf) How many of those want to do it themselves versus hiring an attorney/visa service company? I looked on VJ's CR-1 / IR -1 Visa Timeline Statistics, and they listed 56 applicants from the Philippines last year. How many of the 56 members had enough income that they didn't need assets? I'm guessing that the majority did have enough income. That still leaves over 1,500 other non-VJ members to have different stories. The two visa services that I emailed said they had clients who filed in Manila and used a combination of the two. VJ doesn't have information on all the applicants. It's a great forum though. 

Manila has a heck lot more fiancé/marriage applicants than that, I would estimate 15 time or more, just from counting the people in the line and chatting with them while lining up to go inside the embassy

 

There are a lot of people come to VJ when they have a question, and I have been on the forum for over 10 years and I have not seen anyone saying they used assets, not saying it don't happen but never seen anyone report back. 

[user555 196]

1 hour ago, Falcon Cara said:

Manila has a heck lot more fiancé/marriage applicants than that, I would estimate 15 time or more, just from counting the people in the line and chatting with them while lining up to go inside the embassy

 

In 2018, the US Dept of State recorded this from the Philippines: 6,317 K-1 visas (page 10 of https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/AnnualReports/FY2018AnnualReport/FY18AnnualReport - TableXVII.pdf) and 1,770 IR-1 visas and 1,613 CR-1 visas (page 4 of https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/AnnualReports/FY2018AnnualReport/FY18AnnualReport - TableVIII.pdf). So 9,700 visas with fiancée and marriage. The K-1 stuff doesn't concern me, so I was just calculating the CR-1, so ~1,600. Your estimate of 24,000 seems way too high.

 

The PSA doesn't have last year's data out yet, but they list the number of marriages between Filipina brides and American grooms. Not everyone files for a petition for his spouse, so I would think that under 2,000 CR-1 petitions are filed every year in Manila. 

2017 

Filipina brides and American grooms (3,168)

Filipino grooms and Americans {I am assuming this means American women but maybe "Americans" means both men and women?}(162)

2016

Filipina brides and American grooms (3,081)

Filipino grooms and Americans (279)

2015

Filipina brides and American grooms (3,072)

https://psa.gov.ph/tags/marriage-statistics

[Hank_ 9,174]

I have had people come to me that were denied because the embassy didn't accept assets.      

 

I know that VJ is a fraction of a percent of those that process through ..   yet I get my share of those with denied because of not accepting assets.

[JLJoseph 16]

I used only assets. I provided a year's worth of statements showing my bank balance and a copy of the printout of the town assessor showing my house's value. There were no questions. It was roughly 10 times the poverty level.  This was  a CR1.

Edited July 7, 2019 by JLJoseph

[Falcon Cara 378]

15 minutes ago, JLJoseph said:

I used only assets. I provided a year's worth of statements showing my bank balance and a copy of the printout of the town assessor showing my house's value. There were no questions. It was roughly 10 times the poverty level.  This was  a CR1.

Excellent

 

What time frame was this?

[JLJoseph 16]

I used only assets. I provided a year's worth of statements showing my bank balance and a copy of the printout of the town assessor showing my house's value. There were no questions. It was roughly 10 times the poverty level.

 

 

This was May of this year (2019).

 

5 minutes ago, Falcon Cara said:

Excellent

 

What time frame was this?

This was May of this year. 2019

[Falcon Cara 378]

11 minutes ago, JLJoseph said:

I used only assets. I provided a year's worth of statements showing my bank balance and a copy of the printout of the town assessor showing my house's value. There were no questions. It was roughly 10 times the poverty level.

 

 

This was May of this year (2019).

 

This was May of this year. 2019

That's good to know.  I am thinking about quitting work and going to Philippines at the end of 2020. It would be nice to know I could use cash and assets as a possibility if I decide to find a new girl.

 

 

[Hank_ 9,174]

43 minutes ago, JLJoseph said:

I used only assets. I provided a year's worth of statements showing my bank balance and a copy of the printout of the town assessor showing my house's value. There were no questions. It was roughly 10 times the poverty level.  This was  a CR1.

You used a combination of cash in the bank and real estate as assets?    You receive no income from interest or such?

 

It would be great news if the embassy were finally allowing assets!    Thanks!

[JLJoseph 16]

1 minute ago, Hank_ said:

You used a combination of cash in the bank and real estate as assets?    You receive no income from interest or such?

 

It would be great news if the embassy were finally allowing assets!    Thanks!

I only needed the bank account but I think the real estate helped. I did submit both. They asked me to confirm both. There was no interest for either. Just the assets themselves and it was no trouble. I havent earned income in 10 years and it was still no problem.

 

[Hank_ 9,174]

1 hour ago, JLJoseph said:

I only needed the bank account but I think the real estate helped. I did submit both. They asked me to confirm both. There was no interest for either. Just the assets themselves and it was no trouble. I havent earned income in 10 years and it was still no problem.

 

 

Thank you so much.  That is fantastic news .. now for all the COs at the embassy to follow suit.

[user555 196]

This couple filed IR-1/CR-1 Visa (DCF) in Manila this year and used a combination of income and assets. "I didn’t have tax return because my husband pension is very low and we used assets to fulfill the gap . We didn’t used any co-sponsor. Just his pension and the assets of all equivalent of $64,000. "

[Mylilelar1 8]

On 7/7/2019 at 8:42 AM, JLJoseph said:

I used only assets. I provided a year's worth of statements showing my bank balance and a copy of the printout of the town assessor showing my house's value. There were no questions. It was roughly 10 times the poverty level.  This was  a CR1.

This is good to know! I am using RapidVisa and they keep telling me that even though my 2016 tax return was $411 under the threshold and 17 and 18 were $36,000 that the embassy in Manila usually does not look at assets. I own 3 homes outright and 2 are income producing. $145,000 in liquid assets and a nice Ed Jones Roth. YET....they keep parroting for me to get a co or joint sponsor. Both of our parents are dead. I am 66 and she is 56.IT IS OUT OF THE QUESTION. I am thinking RV does this to cover their A$$,but not sure. This Hank guy on here ALWAYS says Manila does not take assets. I am leaning that they DO.

[Carpe Vinum 2,327]

30 minutes ago, Mylilelar1 said:

This is good to know! I am using RapidVisa and they keep telling me that even though my 2016 tax return was $411 under the threshold and 17 and 18 were $36,000 that the embassy in Manila usually does not look at assets. I own 3 homes outright and 2 are income producing. $145,000 in liquid assets and a nice Ed Jones Roth. YET....they keep parroting for me to get a co or joint sponsor. Both of our parents are dead. I am 66 and she is 56.IT IS OUT OF THE QUESTION. I am thinking RV does this to cover their A$$,but not sure. This Hank guy on here ALWAYS says Manila does not take assets. I am leaning that they DO.

He's a troublemaker......😉

Edited November 20, 2019 by boris64

[Hank_ 9,174]

5 hours ago, Mylilelar1 said:

This is good to know! I am using RapidVisa and they keep telling me that even though my 2016 tax return was $411 under the threshold and 17 and 18 were $36,000 that the embassy in Manila usually does not look at assets. I own 3 homes outright and 2 are income producing. $145,000 in liquid assets and a nice Ed Jones Roth. YET....they keep parroting for me to get a co or joint sponsor. Both of our parents are dead. I am 66 and she is 56.IT IS OUT OF THE QUESTION. I am thinking RV does this to cover their A$$,but not sure. This Hank guy on here ALWAYS says Manila does not take assets. I am leaning that they DO.

That had been the history with USEM .. not accepting assets.   This is the first year we have had reports of the CO considering and at times accepting assets with the immigrant and even the K-1 visa.

 

I know of two couples this year that had assets accepted.    Before this year ... zero.