Whom to Inform about Work? [split topic]

[hetakshpatel 12]

Hello everyone,

I am a Canadian PR Card holder, Indian Citizen.

My wife is a US citizen and we are in the final stage of application appx 2 months left. Waiting for Interview.

My plan is, when i get my visa after interview, I will cross the border, finish the landing process and activate green card & SSN. Come back to canada, apply for jobs in USA while working in canada for a couple months and once i have a job offer, give my notice to canadian employer and move to USA.

 

My wife will add me to her benefits at work so that will be OK. But i read in the thread that as soon as I activate green card, Canadian PR is void. Can I even work in Canada if I am not a PR as I will not have a work permit or citizenship to show that i could legally work here.

 

If i can legally work, who and when should i inform about the changes? Any help is appreciated. Thanks

[TBoneTX 45,288]

The above was split from someone else's thread.

[Ontarkie 14,223]

I cannot help with your PR status in Canada. You should check out http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=727&top=4. 

 

Now as for your plan normally it would be perfectly ok to do. You need to let your employer know that you are no longer a resident of Canada for tax purposes.. As in order to be a US Green Card holder you must be a US resident and for US immigration you cannot be a resident of both countries. Do not use Canadian health care after the date you cross with your visa. I think there are a few provinces that you pay a small percent so for those provinces you are still allowed for the days they allow. You will have to call and ask for those. 

[MK2803 13]

Where did you find this that Canadian PR would be void once you have US Green Card? How does status in the US matter to Canada? I don’t believe this at all. However, if you stay less than 3 years period out of 5 years even then too your Canadian status does not get void. You have to voluntarily renounce your Canada PR status by notifying the authorities. Your Canadian status doesn’t get void automatically. 

[NikLR 13,227]

On 6/10/2019 at 7:33 PM, MK2803 said:

Where did you find this that Canadian PR would be void once you have US Green Card? How does status in the US matter to Canada? I don’t believe this at all. However, if you stay less than 3 years period out of 5 years even then too your Canadian status does not get void. You have to voluntarily renounce your Canada PR status by notifying the authorities. Your Canadian status doesn’t get void automatically. 

You can't be a resident of Canada and a resident of the USA for many things like health care for example.  That doesn't mean the PR status is void or even that the OP may not be able to do his plan.  He needs to contact Canada immigration to understand what they think.

[MK2803 13]

7 minutes ago, NikLR said:

You can't be a resident of Canada and a resident of the USA for many things like health care for example.  That doesn't mean the PR status is void or even that the OP may not be able to do his plan.  He needs to contact Canada immigration to understand what they think.

This information "You can't be a resident of Canada and a resident of the USA" is completely wrong. There is nothing like you can't be a resident of both countries at the same time. The only thing which make you "NOT A RESIDENT" of either country is not complying with the residency requirements. If you have PR status in both countries and living either side but working other then your status is active in both countries. There are thousands of people who are dual citizen so when dual citizenship is allowed then you can easily figure out the scenario. I don't know how people are having this understanding?

[MK2803 13]

This information "You can't be a resident of Canada and a resident of the USA" is completely wrong. There is nothing like you can't be a resident of both countries at the same time. The only thing which make you "NOT A RESIDENT" of either country is not complying with the residency requirements. If you have PR status in both countries and living either side but working other then your status is active in both countries. There are thousands of people who are dual citizen so when dual citizenship is allowed then you can easily figure out the scenario. I don't know how people are having this understanding?

 

Famous dual citizen personalities: Elon Musk, Justin Bieber, Jim Carry. (All these people have Canadian status before acquiring status in the US)

 

Consider these scenarios:

 

Scenario 1: You are a PR of the US and Canada. You live in Buffalo, NY and cross border daily to Niagara Falls, ON for a job. Your status is active in both countries.

 

Scenario 2: You are a PR of the US and Canada. You live in San Jose, CA and didn't live in Canada for at least 730 days in last 5 years period. Therefore, you fail to fulfillment residency requirements of Canada and won't be able to renew your PR card or apply for Canadian citizenship. Hence, loosing your Canadian status.

 

I hope this clears all.

[NikLR 13,227]

9 minutes ago, MK2803 said:

This information "You can't be a resident of Canada and a resident of the USA" is completely wrong. There is nothing like you can't be a resident of both countries at the same time. The only thing which make you "NOT A RESIDENT" of either country is not complying with the residency requirements. If you have PR status in both countries and living either side but working other then your status is active in both countries. There are thousands of people who are dual citizen so when dual citizenship is allowed then you can easily figure out the scenario. I don't know how people are having this understanding?

Due to the Canadian government  cutting off healthcare once you activate a green card.  You have to spend more time in the USA than out. Now OHIP for example, cuts off your healthcare after 182 days outside of Ontario or if you declare residency in another country.  In case youre wondering, yes people have called and asked. Yes I talked to service Canada and Canadian immigration quite a bit before immigrating since we hadnt decided a direction for quite some time after marriage. 

 

If you live in the USA and work in Canada you can do that. You declare yourself a non-resident on your Canadian taxes. The US requires LPR to file taxes as a resident. You need US healthcare. 

 

You can live in Canada and have a commuter green card too. But taxes and healthcare become muddy again. 

[MK2803 13]

3 minutes ago, NikLR said:

Due to the Canadian government  cutting off healthcare once you activate a green card.  You have to spend more time in the USA than out. Now OHIP for example, cuts off your healthcare after 182 days outside of Ontario or if you declare residency in another country.  In case youre wondering, yes people have called and asked. Yes I talked to service Canada and Canadian immigration quite a bit before immigrating since we hadnt decided a direction for quite some time after marriage. 

 

If you live in the USA and work in Canada you can do that. You declare yourself a non-resident on your Canadian taxes. The US requires LPR to file taxes as a resident. You need US healthcare. 

 

You can live in Canada and have a commuter green card too. But taxes and healthcare become muddy again. 

So this all has to do with Health care in Canada. But It does not impact on "Immigration" status. The only thing impact on Immigration status of Canadian PR person is not fulfilling the residency obligations because of moving out of Canada.

[NikLR 13,227]

9 hours ago, MK2803 said:

So this all has to do with Health care in Canada. But It does not impact on "Immigration" status. The only thing impact on Immigration status of Canadian PR person is not fulfilling the residency obligations because of moving out of Canada.

Health care and taxes, and possibly other things I don't know about. 

The only impact it has on immigration status for the USA is if you're showing "residency" and the USA is pretty picky about the fact you don't show residency anywhere else but the USA.  How it impacts Canadian immigration I don't know completely either which is why I suggested the OP contact Immigration Canada.  

 

9 hours ago, NikLR said:

You can't be a resident of Canada and a resident of the USA for many things like health care for example.  That doesn't mean the PR status is void or even that the OP may not be able to do his plan.  He needs to contact Canada immigration to understand what they think.

 

Edited June 22, 2019 by NikLR