That Itch You Can't Rant About (The Rant Thread)

[N-o-l-a 7,167]

 

4 hours ago, fip & jim said:

What did you do when you first got work here?

Perhaps I can get a job as a bag-packer or shelf-stacker at a store. 

 

 

Husband washed windows and then worked overnights at Lowe’s before he retrained and got a career type job. 

9 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

You doubted yourself before, see Nola-B. ma'am...

I know. My first one there went well. This one they had either made up their mind one way or another from the start. At least we got some laughs out of it. It just felt perfunctory. 

[Lil bear 4,222]

12 hours ago, Ontarkie said:

Personally I would not do the GED. You did go to school and complete school. Make your own transcripts as a homeschool student as accurate as you can remember. As a mother who homeschooled 4 kids two have already graduated from University and 1 still going and still homeschooling my youngest 2 . A homeschool transcript and diploma are looked at much better than a GED. Michigan has a decent homeschool population they should be more familiar with that. 

@fip & jim

Agree !!  Many .. but thankfully not all ....“Professional “ educators .. note rolling of eyes and shaking of head .. understand their language only .. poor poor people .. and think that are the only ones who can educate properly .. more rolling eyes and shaking head .. Google  Home School graduation certificate , get onto word or publisher , and go for it. As long as it contains the “magic words” , that’s all they want... unspoken words, mumbling and grunts inside head !! 

Our daughter was told she needed to attend the University open day and speak to the veterinary medicine course advisor as, naturally, a home schooled person had no way to enter one of Australia’s top universities!  So attend she did .. saw the advisor ( from across the room ), spoke to her “ excuse me .. can you tell me if this is the most up to date information ?” ... and duly wrote in her application cover letter that she had “ attended the open day, spoke with the course advisor , who had been very helpful “. Daughter is now 38, been a qualified veterinarian in 3 countries, licensed in 5 US states, clinical practice for 12 years , USDA veterinarian medical officer for 3. 

Give them the words and they’ll be able to tick their box. Hope things go better for you .. let’s know  how it’s going !! 

https://www.responsiblehomeschooling.org/how-to-obtain-a-homeschool-diploma/

Edited July 25, 2019 by Lil bear

[yuna628 9,677]

12 hours ago, fip & jim said:

Not reviewing math.

Wallowing in self-pity and annoyed at feeling self-pity. 

Thought new, shiny New World job was in the bag. 

Not so.

They want transcripts of my education.

No can do due to aforementioned unfortunate luck of being born in doomsday cult. 

Left home at 17 to be free of stupid doomsday cult and all certificates of education lost henceforth.

Parents shunned me.

Parents dead.

All paper records lost.

Not such a problem when back home as people knew this and knew I was a top-notch student that attended a top-notch school and did my best. 

Struggling to know how to explain this strangeness to strangers.

Worked over 10 years in my field and hope a reference from my last employer will show how qualified I am, but also being realistically pessimistic. 

 

 

Hi just popping in - I'm very sorry to hear this has happened to you. I take it you were homeschooled until your last year or you did some A levels? I was too myself for all years. I have no transcripts or official records to speak of except for a diploma. The ability to get transcripts will really all depend on if you were 'fully' home-taught or even 'unschooled' or were homeschooled via a home education program the parents used. Michigan does have a huge homeschooling community and advocates in the state though, so I am surprised of you encountering this hurdle with this job... would have thought it to be something to have experienced in my neck of the woods actually (it's been many a time since I encountered disrespect about my education) to point whatever little 'mock' certificates you make get looked on with scorn. That being said, when my husband applied for his job, it also stated they wanted his educational records - but at the interview they took him at his word, and he is well overqualified anyway. It would have been hard to explain to an American about A-levels or even how his BA is an advanced program degree so it is an equiv of a MA (with the option to go to PhD!) Anyway... there is no harm in a GED, I've often thought about doing that myself - but I would have thought in Michigan for it to be not needed as much. Homeschoolers are everywhere!

11 hours ago, N-o-l-a said:

Why would any employer at your age care about high school? I haven't ever been asked about that. 

 

 

The Dane did a GED when he moved here. No one has ever cared and it was just fine for admission to community college.

Strange enough I've seen and experienced employers that have done this before. Depends on the field of work. In the OP's case they are being unusually stubborn about it. She sounds like they are well qualified.

Edited July 25, 2019 by yuna628

[Ontarkie 14,229]

1 hour ago, SAT said:

 

 

Ah speaking of chicken pluckers, where's Stretch...

I'm cleaning well sort of I stopped a minute. 

[SAT 9,609]

6 minutes ago, Ontarkie said:

I'm cleaning well sort of I stopped a minute. 

 

Are you cleaning chicken ####, duck ####, ferret ####, or some other ####...

[Ontarkie 14,229]

1 minute ago, SAT said:

 

Are you cleaning chicken ####, duck ####, ferret ####, or some other ####...

kids atm they are messier than the chickens. Oh speaking of chickens got 9 more chicks last night and we took a chance and gave them to the hen who already has chicks. She took them all and now is the proud mom of 25 chicks. 

 

[fip & jim 452]

50 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Hi just popping in - I'm very sorry to hear this has happened to you. I take it you were homeschooled until your last year or you did some A levels? I was too myself for all years. I have no transcripts or official records to speak of except for a diploma. The ability to get transcripts will really all depend on if you were 'fully' home-taught or even 'unschooled' or were homeschooled via a home education program the parents used. Michigan does have a huge homeschooling community and advocates in the state though, so I am surprised of you encountering this hurdle with this job... would have thought it to be something to have experienced in my neck of the woods actually (it's been many a time since I encountered disrespect about my education) to point whatever little 'mock' certificates you make get looked on with scorn. That being said, when my husband applied for his job, it also stated they wanted his educational records - but at the interview they took him at his word, and he is well overqualified anyway. It would have been hard to explain to an American about A-levels or even how his BA is an advanced program degree so it is an equiv of a MA (with the option to go to PhD!) Anyway... there is no harm in a GED, I've often thought about doing that myself - but I would have thought in Michigan for it to be not needed as much. Homeschoolers are everywhere!

Strange enough I've seen and experienced employers that have done this before. Depends on the field of work. In the OP's case they are being unusually stubborn about it. She sounds like they are well qualified.

I wasn't homeschooled. I went to a grammar school in England. I left school at 17 to work as I had been offered a place at art school in London but that wasn't possible without parental support. I don't have my certificates. I left school over 30 years ago and my mother had my paperwork and she's been dead for 23 years. 

In my town back home it wasn't a problem as they knew me and never even asked to see any proof of qualifications. I worked in the Arts and Libraries department of local government so I'm over qualified for this job anyway - it's only a part time position in the township public library, working at the circulation desk and putting books back on shelves. I have to re-qualify in my second career which is what I want to do here anyway (counseling), which is fair enough and I accept that may take time. It's not like I want a managerial position at the library. My references show my experience in libraries. They are being rule bound and ticking boxes. Even if I did have my education certificates I wouldn't pay hundreds of dollars to get them transcribed so they can be understood by somebody here. I explained what my education is in the application and at the interview. My work experience supersedes any grades I got 32 years ago.

Thanks for the sympathy. Feeling very sorry for myself today and waiting for them to get back to me about whether they'll accept just a reference. 😔

 

[fip & jim 452]

1 hour ago, N-o-l-a said:

 

Husband washed windows and then worked overnights at Lowe’s before he retrained and got a career type job. 

That's what this job is meant to be - a stop gap while I retrain. 

[TBoneTX 45,324]

7 hours ago, fip & jim said:

Feel like l'm reconstructing my whole life, TBone.

I'm beginning to feel I'm too old for this immigration phooey.

Beginning to feel that immigration is for the bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. 

Immigrating has made me most definitely less squirrel-like and more grumpy bear-like. 

Immigrating has made me Subhuman. 

Now tell us how you REALLY feel, si F&J ma'am.

[fip & jim 452]

2 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Now tell us how you REALLY feel, si F&J ma'am.

Could you handle it?  

[TBoneTX 45,324]

5 hours ago, fip & jim said:

Perhaps I can get a job as a bag-packer or shelf-stacker at a store. 

Behave yourself and perfect your P-math, si F&J ma'am.

You might qualify for a coveted position in the Pre-Owned Toilet Seat (POTS) industry*, si ma'am.

We have been known to accept forged skool transcripts,   ma'am.

 

*in which we are the pre-eminent Business Typhoon, si ma'am

Just now, fip & jim said:

Could you handle it?  

We clawed our way atop the POTS industry and can therefore handle anything, cut loose F&J ma'am.

[TBoneTX 45,324]

33 minutes ago, Ontarkie said:

I'm cleaning well sort of I stopped a minute. 

You get back to your chica's work right now, si D ma'am!

Slacking, indolent Ontarklar!  Slacking, SLACKING indolent INDOLENT Ontarklar!

[N-o-l-a 7,167]

39 minutes ago, fip & jim said:

I wasn't homeschooled. I went to a grammar school in England. I left school at 17 to work as I had been offered a place at art school in London but that wasn't possible without parental support. I don't have my certificates. I left school over 30 years ago and my mother had my paperwork and she's been dead for 23 years. 

In my town back home it wasn't a problem as they knew me and never even asked to see any proof of qualifications. I worked in the Arts and Libraries department of local government so I'm over qualified for this job anyway - it's only a part time position in the township public library, working at the circulation desk and putting books back on shelves. I have to re-qualify in my second career which is what I want to do here anyway (counseling), which is fair enough and I accept that may take time. It's not like I want a managerial position at the library. My references show my experience in libraries. They are being rule bound and ticking boxes. Even if I did have my education certificates I wouldn't pay hundreds of dollars to get them transcribed so they can be understood by somebody here. I explained what my education is in the application and at the interview. My work experience supersedes any grades I got 32 years ago.

Thanks for the sympathy. Feeling very sorry for myself today and waiting for them to get back to me about whether they'll accept just a reference. 😔

 

So did you put down that you graduated high school?  Because I would have done that regardless. Only time I think it is ok to fudge this sort of thing. 

 

I’ve told this story before, but I started college before I graduated high school. I failed calculus my senior year, they wouldn’t graduate me.... so they gave me the diploma after I retook it my first year of college. No one was the wiser. 

 

What kind of counseling degree are you going for?

[TBoneTX 45,324]

1 minute ago, N-o-l-a said:

I failed calculus

Next time, find a hygienist who scrapes it all off your teeth, si Nola-B. ma'am.

Or, study P-math calculus, far simpler man.

[fip & jim 452]

32 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Behave yourself and perfect your P-math, si F&J ma'am.

P-math would cause chaos in a library.

Example:

Patron - "Excuse me, librarian with the sexy English accent! Could you direct me to where I may find books on water features as I would like to build a pond in my yard."

Me (playing the part of librarian with the sexy English accent in this scenario) - "Why, yes I can! I have excellent recall and organisational skills. They are in the Landscape Architecture section, numbered Many.Many. (2+2+2+1, 1 , 2+2).

 

Edited July 25, 2019 by fip & jim