Fiance Visa vs Spouse Visa for Pakistan

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

. He thinks the fiance Visa is easier for us

 

that statement makes it look strange

sorry,  i should not post why i think so but you need to think about this

 

 

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

2 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

There is likely much more to this story.

yes,  a marriage would tie him down for some time (especially if denied ) and a K1, if denied ,  leaves him free

[Crazy Cat 41,898]

2 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

I wondered too.

Also if he is so close to his family, congregants etc wouldn’t be rather celebrate the wedding with them in attendance than in the US? It sounds like his mother may not be able to travel, surely he wants her there.

Agree.  The only "advantage" to a K-1 is getting to the US a few months sooner........but he would be severely affected by the other limitations of the K-1..... 

2 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

. He thinks the fiance Visa is easier for us

 

that statement makes it look strange

sorry,  i should not post why i think so but you need to think about this

 

 

Exactly!!!!!!!  You said it much better than I.

[Rashid patras 40]

8 hours ago, PistachioRose said:

Hello. For Pakistan is it better to marry and apply the Spouse Visa or is it okay to just apply for a Fiance Visa if you have already met. Will I have more chances of getting denied if I do the Fiance Visa? A little background information is that the female petitioner is 9 years older and previously married to two other Pakistani nationals who have entered USA. One marriage lasted two years and the other 8.5 years. Can you please advise me of the best type of Visa to apply for in this situation?

Well you should apply for cr1 visa there won't be any problem at USCIS but applicant in islamabad will have  to go through long AP ,because of your previous marriages. Go ahead with cr1 and all the best if your previous marriages had no malifide intentions just to get immigration benefits for your ex husbands  as well as this marriage. Good luck.

[Cathi 5,757]

4 hours ago, PistachioRose said:

I have married them. Not because of the country but my own culture. It is just like marrying two people here of the same culture. None have been related. The marriages just did not work out. High risk why? Because they are Muslim? I have met my fiance twice so far and stayed two months during each stay. We have been together since 2017. I stayed in his home.

For the record, no one said a word about being Muslim. In fact, until this point, no one knew he was.

 

 

You came here for answers and you're calling everyone rude. We are not being rude, we are being honest. We have all been here a very long time and we've seen and heard it all, that is why we are blunt and straight to the point. If you want everyone to be warm and fuzzy and lie to you as to not hurt your feelings, you're in the wrong place.

 

 

The fact of the matter is, Pakistan is a high fraud country and extremely difficult to deal with, even under the best of circumstances. You are now attempting to bring a 3rd person here, your relationship will be under the highest and strictest scrutiny. That's the cold, hard truth. 

[Cathi 5,757]

4 hours ago, PistachioRose said:

Is three years long enough? We have met twice and stayed together in his home with family in separate rooms. I slept in the room with his sister. We had an engagement. I stayed 21 days and 30 days on two occasions with a six month happy between the two. Planning another visit in a few months to stay a month. I am debating to marry or to kit marry. He thinks the fiance Visa is easier for us but I believe we better marry and do the Spouse visa. He says I can love there but the children would have to relocate and they do not want to at the moment. I am trying to make things work for all of us. He has strong ties in his country because he is an imam and runs an Islamic center. So he would prefer to live therem it is not convenient for him to leave Pakistan. His mother is a widow and he worries about leaving her as well. He is relocating because it is he best way for us both. If there had been no kids it may have been eaiser for me to relocate to Pakistan. I am Muslim and he is Muslim also. 

Did you sign a nikah namah during the engagement party? If so you are legally married under Islamic Law and in the eyes of USCIS. If you did sign one, your only option is a CR-1,

Edited June 9, 2019 by Cathi

[NikLR 13,227]

6 hours ago, adil-rafa said:

Not an offensive statement is meant here /  my opinion 

we look at the way immigration sees things and only what they have done in the past

 

OP as far as marriage and CR1 ,  have you met him face to face?

it is never advisable to marry on the 1st trip

and it would require several trips to establish a solid relationship /also  what we have seen in the past

one member LOVETOTEACH (Pakistan)  has made over 5 tirps and is still denied at this point for her husband / she also had bought former husband into the US 

 

the best place for you to find out information is to read the portal for Pakistan and take the best advice from others in that country

Do you read what people write? The op has met her fiance twice thus far and is planning a third trip

[NikLR 13,227]

~~moved to what visa do I need.  Please people stick to the OPs questions without the extraneous. We are not immigration. ~~

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

7 minutes ago, NikLR said:

Do you read what people write? The op has met her fiance twice thus far and is planning a third trip

she write that she had met him after my first post when i asked'

why attack me?

[NikLR 13,227]

4 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

she write that she had met him after my first post when i asked'

why attack me?

Yes it was an entire HOUR. The first few posts also state 2 visits.

Im annoyed that you arent paying attention to what the OP has written and then your advice is not correct for the individual.  While you and your spouse, who share this account, can give quality information on high fraud consulates and long visa journeys (in your case it was two, the K1 AND the CR1), it you arent going to pay attention to what someone writes, that information will be inaccurate.  The entire visa process is about paying attention by reading thouroughly, interpreting literally, and answering honestly, completely, and in a concise manner. 

We promote that here, and its hard to promote that atmosphere when you don't even bother to read what the OP has written. Please be more diligent. 

[Just Paul 4,595]

Filing the I-130 and spend more time in his country with him will help a lot with any red flags.  Time cures those issues.

 

You have had an engagement party and sometimes that comes across to the CO as "too married for a K1" due to how they see local customs.  Don't spend time going down that road.

 

Unfortunately, Pakistanis may now experience a very long months to years protracted AP.   This process now takes much more time then it did before.

 

 

[Khatera DS 11]

On 6/9/2019 at 3:55 AM, PistachioRose said:

Hello. For Pakistan is it better to marry and apply the Spouse Visa or is it okay to just apply for a Fiance Visa if you have already met. Will I have more chances of getting denied if I do the Fiance Visa? A little background information is that the female petitioner is 9 years older and previously married to two other Pakistani nationals who have entered USA. One marriage lasted two years and the other 8.5 years. Can you please advise me of the best type of Visa to apply for in this situation?

Any updates on your case? What did you end up doing? 

[PistachioRose 2]

1 hour ago, Khatera DS said:

Any updates on your case? What did you end up doing? 

Hello. We decided to marry. So, we got married in December of 2019. 

[Khatera DS 11]

22 minutes ago, PistachioRose said:

Hello. We decided to marry. So, we got married in December of 2019. 

Congratulations! I went through a similar experience as you. That's why I ask. We are currently waiting for USCIS to make a decision on our CR1, as we were denied a k1. K1 in Pakistan is really a total waste of time, sadly. I learned the hard way. I wish you the very best for your case.