Fiance Visa vs Spouse Visa for Pakistan

[PistachioRose 2]

Hello. For Pakistan is it better to marry and apply the Spouse Visa or is it okay to just apply for a Fiance Visa if you have already met. Will I have more chances of getting denied if I do the Fiance Visa? A little background information is that the female petitioner is 9 years older and previously married to two other Pakistani nationals who have entered USA. One marriage lasted two years and the other 8.5 years. Can you please advise me of the best type of Visa to apply for in this situation?

Edited June 9, 2019 by PistachioRose
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[milimelo 4,481]

You’ll have an uphill battle whichever option you pick. It’s looking like serial immigration of Pakistani nationals. 

[Dashinka 24,512]

I agree, spousal visa is probably the best option, but there may be a bit more scrutiny regardless.

[PistachioRose 2]

I feel offended by the "serial" comment.

The circumstances of each situation is unknown to you.

5 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I agree, spousal visa is probably the best option, but there may be a bit more scrutiny regardless.

Ok, can you elaborate on what could happen?

[PistachioRose 2]

9 minutes ago, milimelo said:

You’ll have an uphill battle whichever option you pick. It’s looking like serial immigration of Pakistani nationals. 

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[ClickityClackity 134]

12 minutes ago, PistachioRose said:

I feel offended by the "serial" comment.

The circumstances of each situation is unknown to you.

Ok, can you elaborate on what could happen?

You can feel as you'd like, but that doesn't change the fact that the consular officer might also think that and deny the visa. You are coming here for answers and those are the answers. I understand how it can be upsetting, but you need to be prepared for the journey that lies ahead, which is neither going to be easy nor short. 

Edited June 9, 2019 by Mary&Rafa

[PistachioRose 2]

Well my first day here not expecting rude responses but encouragement would be nice. Not sarcastic statements. Her wording bothered me. She could have said you have married too often from the same location instead.

[PistachioRose 2]

3 minutes ago, Mary&Rafa said:

You can feel as you'd like, but that doesn't change the fact that the consular officer might also think that and deny the visa. You are coming here for answers and those are the answers. I understand how it can be upsetting, but you need to be prepared for the journey that lies ahead, which is neither going to be easy nor short. 

So where is your answer on which Visa I should go for or were you just here to let me know the other poster was right?

[ClickityClackity 134]

2 minutes ago, PistachioRose said:

So where is your answer on which Visa I should go for or were you just here to let me know the other poster was right?

My answer pertains to your question about having a harder time. You are going to have an equal hard time no matter which one you choose.

 

Regarding the visa, marrying and filing for the CR-1 usually outweighs K-1 because the applicant will become a permanent resident as soon as they enter the US, can work and travel and it's cheaper. The downside is that it takes longer than K-1.

 

But if you want to apply just taking into account how hard it's going to be then my answer is the same. Both are going to be hard.

[PistachioRose 2]

Just now, Mary&Rafa said:

My answer pertains to your question about having a harder time. You are going to have an equal hard time no matter which one you choose.

 

Regarding the visa, marrying and filing for the CR-1 usually outweighs K-1 because the applicant will become a permanent resident as soon as they enter the US, can work and travel and it's cheaper. The downside is that it takes longer than K-1.

 

But if you want to apply just taking into account how hard it's going to be then my answer is the same. Both are going to be hard.

Ok, so either way I have my work cut out for me. I understand that it may be hard but hopefully not impossible. Does marrying someone from another country also become harder in a situation as such?

[ClickityClackity 134]

1 minute ago, PistachioRose said:

Ok, so either way I have my work cut out for me. I understand that it may be hard but hopefully not impossible. Does marrying someone from another country also become harder in a situation as such?

An USC that has married foreign nationals that adjusted afterwards and then divorced them is going to have to deal with more scrutiny no matter where they are from. I wish you all the luck in the world, and if I was you I would make sure to prove that my relationship is bona fide as hard as I could (multiple visits, plane receipts, letters, knowledge of each other and each other families, photographs)

[PistachioRose 2]

45 minutes ago, Mary&Rafa said:

An USC that has married foreign nationals that adjusted afterwards and then divorced them is going to have to deal with more scrutiny no matter where they are from. I wish you all the luck in the world, and if I was you I would make sure to prove that my relationship is bona fide as hard as I could (multiple visits, plane receipts, letters, knowledge of each other and each other families, photographs)

Ok, thank you for the suggestions. I am sure it will not be easy. I have visited mutiple times I guess that will help some.

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2 hours ago, PistachioRose said:

I feel offended by the "serial" comment.

The circumstances of each situation is unknown to you.

Ok, can you elaborate on what could happen?

 

YOu can feel however you want, it doesn't change the fact they speak the truth.

 

You are looking at a high risk country. You are bringing (or attempting to bring) multiple people in. how long the marriages are or what the circumstances are is fairly a moot point.

 

You will need more than multiple visits. You will need concrete, indisputable EVIDENCE that it is a real marriage. Financial documents (lots of it), intermingling with family, holidays, birthdays, celebrations that may be cultural norms, extensive time together in person, etc

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2 hours ago, PistachioRose said:

I feel offended by the "serial" comment.

The circumstances of each situation is unknown to you.

Ok, can you elaborate on what could happen?

serial adjective [ not gradable ]

 US  /ˈsɪər·i·əl/

• happening one after another in time or order.

You can be offended by whatever you choose to be offended by - but the dictionary definition of ‘serial’ is one after another...which is exactly what you’ve posted about. If you want help, getting honest and accurate answers really is the best thing you can hope for, regardless of whether you like them.

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Another point of scrutiny (when going through info they have on previous petitions) that may come up is if all 3 beneficiaries are from the same area/related in any way/how did you meet them...we had one member who petitioned a Pakistani national for a fiancee visa, married and then wanted to divorce in the USA, so that he could turn around and file a K1 for the ex's sister.  Certainly that would have raised some eyebrows with the embassy, as they likely presumed there might not have been a bonafide relationship but rather some circumvention of sibling immigration waiting times involved there.

 

Do any of them know each other in any way?  Did the petitioner meet any of them the same way?