Meeting all requirements

[Turo 2]

Hello, 

 

I know I haven’t been too active in this forum but i’ve been working on my application i129f to bring my fiancée, before sending the application to home land security i want to ask you guys about “proof of conversation” since is part of the requirements, i have them already in my binder, my conversations with my lady are in spanish, i heard that they need to be translated to english and certefied by a notary, otherwise my application will be denied. What would be the right thing to do

 

thank you

[Matrix13 131]

Your i-129f will go to the USCIS, not homeland security. In the petition, you are not required to have any chat records. What you are required to have is proof of meeting face-to-face in the last 24 months. That proof will be flight boarding passes, passport stamps, hotel receipts, and any other similar evidence. 

 

Chat conversations will be helpful several months later on in the process, during the embassy interview stage (when the beneficiary must prove that the relationship is legitimate). I can't answer your question about notarized translations, but I highly doubt that any translation will be required. That answer can be found by reading the embassy reviews for your specific embassy.

 

Good luck!

Edited June 8, 2019 by Matrix13

[geowrian 22,337]

The I-129F has no requirement for evidence of conversations, therefore it will not be denied for that reason.

If you choose to front-load your I-129F with relationship evidence, you can include them anyway. The CO prior to the interview may or may not review them beforehand, depending on the consulate.

Whether or not to front-load depends mostly on the consulate and the particular circumstances involved.

Chat logs are fairly low on the evidence list so I wouldn't worry about going too overboard with it. Time spent physically together is optimal.

 

If you do submit anything to USCIS, it must include an English translation. See here for guidance: https://www.visajourney.com/content/translations/

 

A notary is not needed or beneficial for supporting documents.

Additionally, there is nothing really to notarize with chat transcripts...the role of a notary (in this context) is to verify that the person who signs the document is who they say they are. USCIS and DOS do not doubt the identity of the person submitting supporting evidence alongside the petition, and the petition is already signed under penalty of perjury.

 

Evidence presented at the embassy/consulate stage may or may not require a certified translation from an official translator.

[Turo 2]

Wow really really appreciate your time to answer my questions, based on what you guys say, i am ready to send my application to the USCIS, sorry id didn’t say it right in the beginning, but other that that i think i meet all requirements to get approved with enough evidences, hopefully this process won’t take long to get it resolved as expected 

 

thank you again for your quick response 

[TBoneTX 45,572]

To add to the good replies above:  the consulate cannot refuse a visa by denying the existence of evidence that they know USCIS has seen.

 

For this reason, if you'll be dealing with a tough consulate (you have no timeline and don't specify your beneficiary's country), English translations of supplemental "front-loaded" evidence (evidence of a bona fide relationship, submitted for USCIS to pass on to the consulate) can be helpful.

 

If you decide to front-load your petition with material beyond that which satisfies USCIS's requirements, carefully select samples of correspondence, etc. that would best convince a skeptical stranger (the consular officer) that your relationship is bona fide, and include those with their translations.  Bedbug language for "certification of translation" is available on this site.

 

Include nothing in which you playfully refer to yourselves as "hubby/wifey" or suggest in the slightest that you're married.

 

It's accurate that a Notary Public authenticates signatures, not documents, and no notarization is necessary.

 

The above might sound complex and difficult, but it's really not.  

[JFH 12,190]

I would also emphasize what had been said before that if you are going to include copies of conversations, focus on quality, rather than quantity. Hundreds of pages of “I love you”, “you’re so beautiful” and heart emojis are useless. Focus on meaningful conversations that demonstrate you are planning along-term future together. My husband and I sent conversations with our I-130 and they were where we discussed such things as where to spend thanksgiving, what to buy my mother for her birthday, my sister’s pregnancy, what color curtains to purchase for the living room, work, money, mutual friends, family members, health concerns, the type of stuff that regular couples talk about on a day-to-day basis. 

[Turo 2]

Now that i know the importance of proof of conversation or chats I don’t think i will be including them in my aplicacion, i have other type of proof or evidences of meeting in person like pictures for every time i’ve gone to see my fiancée 

I will be sending my application tomorrow 

thanks for the time that you guys take to answer my question