Need information about N-600 for minor kids

[netz75 13]

On 8/29/2019 at 6:55 PM, Y3+E said:

It took us five weeks to get the mother's U.S. passport, applying though a Post Office.  We just applied for #1 Daughter's passport.  We had to wait until her mother's passport had been issued and her original Naturalization Certificate returned.  Then we submitted the mother's original naturalization certificate with the daughter's passport application.  (This is so tedious.  We will wait until the certificate is returned a second time, then apply for #2 Daughter's passport.  The powers to be will not allow us to batch process three passport applications; the USCIS site says each passport application may go to different offices).  And yes, we had to submit the Green Cards with the passport applications.  So, no Green Card as secondary evidence to prove citizenship via naturalization of the mother in the event the daughters' passports are lost or not renewed for some reason long after I am dead (but, free of all the USCIS requirements :-).  It was a bit difficult to surrender the 10-year Green Cards.  It took us 409 days to get them via the I-751 process.  We had them for less than a year.  But, seeing a U.S. Passport in hand is such a great feeling after working our way through the I-130, NVC, Embassy Interview, I-751, and N-400 processes.  Best wishes to all here!!

it was also happen to me I applied 3 passport in the post office for me and for my 2 kids and its on 1 package assisted by post office personnel who did the application process then after 2 weeks I received a letter for my two kids requesting for my original citizenship certificate and their green card or pass port that had I-551. they are serious my Citizenship certificate is already there, then after 3days I received an email that my passport is approved and its already on the way but my evidence will takes 2 weeks to arrived so I wait for my certificate to arrived and make a copies for two kids and their passport went to a notary public to certified true copy on it for both of them and send it to NPIC, because I don't want to send my original certificate and their passport or green card back to them, they already not send my original birth certificate back, until now their passport are still on process but I did not receive any letter again that said they need additional requirements.

[aaron2020 11,651]

1 hour ago, netz75 said:

I do believe that N-600 are optional in the case of my kids, its only for the minor that still outside in the US at the time of naturalization, passport is enough evidence for citizenship, State Department will not issue the passport if your kids are not qualify through verification in USCIS 

 

Under the Child Citizenship Act, the requirements are the same for all minor children.  The child outside the US would need to be admitted to the US as a green card holder in order to derive US citizenship.  The N-600 has nothing to do with the CCA.  That child doesn't need an N-600.  That child needs a green card to be a US citizen.

[Y3+E 25]

7 hours ago, netz75 said:

it was also happen to me I applied 3 passport in the post office for me and for my 2 kids and its on 1 package assisted by post office personnel who did the application process then after 2 weeks I received a letter for my two kids requesting for my original citizenship certificate and their green card or pass port that had I-551. they are serious my Citizenship certificate is already there, then after 3days I received an email that my passport is approved and its already on the way but my evidence will takes 2 weeks to arrived so I wait for my certificate to arrived and make a copies for two kids and their passport went to a notary public to certified true copy on it for both of them and send it to NPIC, because I don't want to send my original certificate and their passport or green card back to them, they already not send my original birth certificate back, until now their passport are still on process but I did not receive any letter again that said they need additional requirements.

The  Post Office agents, in accordance with the Passport application instructions online, will not accept a copy of the mother's Naturalization Certificate with the daughters' applications.  We had to submit the original naturalization certificate with the mother's passport application.  When the mother's passport was delivered (in five week) and certificate returned, we again included the original certificate along with the #1 Daughter's passport application; her passport was delivered in three weeks (paying only the normal processing fee).  Today, we applied for #2 Daughter's passport, and we again included the mother's original naturalization certificate.  The Naturalization Certificate has been carefully cared for during the passport processing; it has now been twice returned to us without any damage, folding, or wrinkles.  

 

We were advised that if we sent all three passport applications together, they would still be separated and handled independently - causing long delays in the processing due to each application requiring the mother's original naturalization certificate.

Edited September 5, 2019 by Y3+E

[netz75 13]

On 9/5/2019 at 7:40 PM, Y3+E said:

The  Post Office agents, in accordance with the Passport application instructions online, will not accept a copy of the mother's Naturalization Certificate with the daughters' applications.  We had to submit the original naturalization certificate with the mother's passport application.  When the mother's passport was delivered (in five week) and certificate returned, we again included the original certificate along with the #1 Daughter's passport application; her passport was delivered in three weeks (paying only the normal processing fee).  Today, we applied for #2 Daughter's passport, and we again included the mother's original naturalization certificate.  The Naturalization Certificate has been carefully cared for during the passport processing; it has now been twice returned to us without any damage, folding, or wrinkles.  

 

We were advised that if we sent all three passport applications together, they would still be separated and handled independently - causing long delays in the processing due to each application requiring the mother's original naturalization certificate.

just got the kids passports delivered at the same time, you don't need to apply one kid at a time you just need to copy the Naturalization certificate of mother, their green card or foreign passport that ha I-551 for both of the kids and need to  notarized each copies and send with the application, you don't need to send the original anymore just the certified true copy. its work.

[Y3+E 25]

4 hours ago, netz75 said:

just got the kids passports delivered at the same time, you don't need to apply one kid at a time you just need to copy the Naturalization certificate of mother, their green card or foreign passport that ha I-551 for both of the kids and need to  notarized each copies and send with the application, you don't need to send the original anymore just the certified true copy. its work.

Good to know for the future passport application submissions for our children!  Thank you!

[TopGear77 9]

On 8/29/2019 at 6:55 PM, Y3+E said:

It took us five weeks to get the mother's U.S. passport, applying though a Post Office.  We just applied for #1 Daughter's passport.  We had to wait until her mother's passport had been issued and her original Naturalization Certificate returned.  Then we submitted the mother's original naturalization certificate with the daughter's passport application.  (This is so tedious.  We will wait until the certificate is returned a second time, then apply for #2 Daughter's passport.  The powers to be will not allow us to batch process three passport applications; the USCIS site says each passport application may go to different offices).  And yes, we had to submit the Green Cards with the passport applications.  So, no Green Card as secondary evidence to prove citizenship via naturalization of the mother in the event the daughters' passports are lost or not renewed for some reason long after I am dead (but, free of all the USCIS requirements :-).  It was a bit difficult to surrender the 10-year Green Cards.  It took us 409 days to get them via the I-751 process.  We had them for less than a year.  But, seeing a U.S. Passport in hand is such a great feeling after working our way through the I-130, NVC, Embassy Interview, I-751, and N-400 processes.  Best wishes to all here!!

did you end up getting the passports? I think i will send the request for my daughter's passport next year

[Y3+E 25]

On 11/20/2019 at 11:05 AM, TopGear77 said:

did you end up getting the passports? I think i will send the request for my daughter's passport next year

Yes, we did receive a U.S. Passport and U.S. Passport Card for both of our daughters - applying via a local U.S. Post Office.  

 

Our 17 year old daughter's passport was approved and returned to us in less than three weeks.  

 

However,  our 15 year old daughter's passport application was tougher due to her being under 16 years of age which requires extra documentation.  The U.S. Passport office corresponded with us requesting additional information to include:  

 

1) A signed DS-3050, Statement of Consent, signed by the biological father.   (Had the Post Office clerk advised us to submit my (step father) legal guardianship documents, this may not have been necessary.)

2) Evidence that shows that the daughter was "in the sole or joint legal custody of your U.S. citizen parent pursuant to lawful admission for permanent residence."

3) “Early public records issued at or near the time of your birth which show your name and the names of your parent(s) such as hospital, religious, medical or insurance records.  The birth document you submitted was recorded more than one year after the birth occurred.”  

 

We did provide the passport office with the additional requested information and received a U.S. Passport three weeks after submission.  In hindsight, we should have waited a few months until our second daughter reached 16 years of age and then submitted the passport application.  This would have saved us the trouble of obtaining copies of documents (and translations) from the Dominican Republic (which had been originally prepared and submitted to USCIS for our I-130 application).   All of the issues raised by the passport office regarding the younger daughter also applied to the older daughter, but we did not have to submit the extra documents for the older daughter.  The passport office promptly returned all of our supporting original documents which we submitted.  The Passport office kept the Xerox copies that we also provided with the originals.  

 

Wishing you a speedy non-eventful application process!!  

Edited November 22, 2019 by Y3+E