My Indo wife was denied twice for tourist visa

[Halo Bule 8]

@Calicolom unfortunately there is a lot of bad advice on this subject as well as outdated information New laws and regulations have emerged. This is by far the best site I’ve found on this subject. Took me a year to find it. I’ve searched many times getting different answers even with my vpn so I can search through blocked sites as well.

Edited May 29, 2019 by Halo Bule

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

1 hour ago, Just Observing said:

US visitor visa applications from developing countries with high fraud rates are a manure-shoot with results as close to random as it can get.

Indonesia does not actually have a high refusal rate, it is 12% which is pretty low and particularly so for a developing economy. OP also indicated that of around 130 applicants he estimated he saw, only 4 were refused, so this backs this up. Unfortunately this makes it "worse" as it means they are actually going against the norm there to have found her twice ineligible for a B... they seem to really believe she has immigrant intent. USC husband with job in US seals the deal on that imo.

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

11 minutes ago, Halo Bule said:

@Calicolom unfortunately there is a lot of bad advice on this subject as well as outdated information New laws and regulations have emerged. This is by far the best site I’ve found on this subject. Took me a year to find it. I’ve searched many times getting different answers even with my vpn so I can search through blocked sites as well.

Nope, I applied for my first (out of 4) B visa back in 1990 and the laws and regulations around getting one are all pretty much the same (other than computers and biographics aiding the consulates now, back then it was a paper form and an ink stamp in the passport).

Edited May 29, 2019 by SusieQQQ

[Amadia 711]

In reading your story, it sounds like the IO deemed immigrant intent from the mere fact that she is your wife but applying for Tourist visa to see you....

[Just Observing 34]

9 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Indonesia does not actually have a high refusal rate, it is 12% which is pretty low and particularly so for a developing economy. OP also indicated that of around 130 applicants he estimated he saw, only 4 were refused, so this backs this up. Unfortunately this makes it "worse" as it means they are actually going against the norm there to have found her twice ineligible for a B... they seem to really believe she has immigrant intent. USC husband with job in US seals the deal on that imo.

You're right. I was pleasantly surprised to see such a low adjusted refusal rate for Indonesia on the charts. I guess I stereotyped low income automatically with high refusal rates. South Africa also has a very low refusal rate, hmmm. Interesting and somewhat counter intuitive observation.

Edited May 29, 2019 by Just Observing

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

7 minutes ago, Just Observing said:

You're right. I was pleasantly surprised to see such a low adjusted refusal rate for Indonesia on the charts. I guess I stereotyped low income automatically with high refusal rates. South Africa also has a very low refusal rate, hmmm. Interesting and somewhat counter intuitive observation.

South Africa's refusal rate has actually gone up a fair bit over the past few years, it used to be under 3% https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/RefusalRates/FY13.pdf.  There just hardly ever used to be issues with SAfricans overstaying their visas, but that has been happening more lately, hence refusal rates climbing.   I could give you the reasons, but too much thread drift from OP's topic.

Edited May 29, 2019 by SusieQQQ

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

35 minutes ago, Halo Bule said:

@Calicolom unfortunately there is a lot of bad advice on this subject as well as outdated information New laws and regulations have emerged. This is by far the best site I’ve found on this subject. Took me a year to find it. I’ve searched many times getting different answers even with my vpn so I can search through blocked sites as well.

Which ones? 

 

Laws and regs around B2 eligibility criteria haven't changed, afaik. 

[Halo Bule 8]

@calicolom thanks for clarifying that... in the back of my head I assumed trump had already changed some things for immigration but hasn’t .... Why would anyone ever think this? Thanks calicolom

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

1 hour ago, Halo Bule said:

@calicolom thanks for clarifying that... in the back of my head I assumed trump had already changed some things for immigration but hasn’t .... Why would anyone ever think this? Thanks calicolom

Trust me a lot of people think this when it really isn't the case. 

[Boiler 45,918]

1 hour ago, Halo Bule said:

@calicolom thanks for clarifying that... in the back of my head I assumed trump had already changed some things for immigration but hasn’t .... Why would anyone ever think this? Thanks calicolom

Very common misunderstanding, and when asked for evidence seems that people making such remarks get all defensive and accuse others of being political.

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

29 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Very common misunderstanding, and when asked for evidence seems that people making such remarks get all defensive and accuse others of being political.

Well to be fair Trump talks it up a lot himself, says he’s tough on immigration and illegals yada yada, I’m sure he likes that people believe him

to be fair they do seem to be deporting anyone they find who’s illegal and not just criminals, but none of that has anything to do with tourist visas anyway 

Edited May 29, 2019 by SusieQQQ

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

1 hour ago, Halo Bule said:

@calicolom thanks for clarifying that... in the back of my head I assumed trump had already changed some things for immigration but hasn’t .... Why would anyone ever think this? Thanks calicolom

Rules haven't significantly changed; enforcement has

[Boiler 45,918]

Obama deported more.

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

Obama deported more.

 

Overall, in his 8 yrs? 

[Crazy Cat 42,037]

3 minutes ago, WeGuyGal said:

Obama deported more.

 

Overall, in his 8 yrs? 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/12/14/deportations-under-trump-are-rise-still-lower-than-obamas-ice-report-shows/?utm_term=.22736dba6515