Water Heaters

[JMPM 507]

Hi Guys!

So my parents in law built an addition for my wife and I. I contributed with some basic creature comforts such as paying for the differences on some better amenities. Now the tankless instant water heater in the shower was all me. I asked that they put an outlet for it (Which they did, but I didn't realize where they put it.)   Once it was installed, and the area wasn't super dusty and dirty I asked my wife to show me photos. 

I am concerned about the placement of the outlet   plus the ground isn't connected (I doubt there's a ground at all anywhere)  Do you think it's unreasonable for me to have them move the outlet to the far right side as far as the cable allows near the ceiling and install a grounding point? I am getting push back in regards to the outlet since it's on the concrete wall. 

I kinda don't want to die, nor my wife die, or anyone else that might want to shower in there from being electrocuted. 

[payxibka 10,045]

Mine is not quite that close but not all that different.  I am sure they gfci breakers.  I need to double check our box if one is present 

[Crazy Cat 41,836]

11 minutes ago, JMPM said:

Do you think it's unreasonable for me to have them move the outlet to the far right side as far as the cable allows near the ceiling and install a grounding point? I am getting push back in regards to the outlet since it's on the concrete wall. 

Wouldn't it be easier to just move the heater as far as possible to the right?

[JMPM 507]

14 minutes ago, missileman said:

Wouldn't it be easier to just move the heater as far as possible to the right?

The heater is water proof it's the outlet I am worried about.  I mean that too would be the most ideal thing. I did get that unit since it was IPX6 rated. The toilet is next to the shower I could have it mount above it, with the socket there too. We will see. They got an electrician coming back later this week. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't over reacting with the chance of dying. 

Edited May 20, 2019 by JMPM

[Crazy Cat 41,836]

1 minute ago, JMPM said:

The heater is water proof it's the outlet I am worried about. 

Moving the heater to the far right takes that  water valve away from the electrical plug..........and moving the heater would be much easier than moving an electrical outlet in a concrete wall.

[Crazy Cat 41,836]

After moving the heater to the far right, I would place a water-proof cover over the outlet....where it is currently.....

[JMPM 507]

Just now, missileman said:

After moving the heater to the far right, I would place a water-proof cover over the outlet....where it is currently.....

That's another good suggestion. I will bring that up as a suggestion. 

[Hank_ 9,174]

1 hour ago, JMPM said:

Hi Guys!

So my parents in law built an addition for my wife and I. I contributed with some basic creature comforts such as paying for the differences on some better amenities. Now the tankless instant water heater in the shower was all me. I asked that they put an outlet for it (Which they did, but I didn't realize where they put it.)   Once it was installed, and the area wasn't super dusty and dirty I asked my wife to show me photos. 

I am concerned about the placement of the outlet   plus the ground isn't connected (I doubt there's a ground at all anywhere)  Do you think it's unreasonable for me to have them move the outlet to the far right side as far as the cable allows near the ceiling and install a grounding point? I am getting push back in regards to the outlet since it's on the concrete wall. 

I kinda don't want to die, nor my wife die, or anyone else that might want to shower in there from being electrocuted. 

 

Ya, I am not crazy about the location of that outlet either.  Everything is begging for someone to get a jolt, the fitting & valve are right in front of the outlet.  I have the outlets in our CRs up near the ceiling where there is little chance of it getting wet. 

 

Odds of getting a ground wire ran .. ya might win the lottery if that gets done correctly so spend your $2 on a ticket that day.       For sure get it moved, then remember the name of that "electrician" so you don't use him again.     It isn't that hard to move, that concrete there is very "durable" if it is like the stuff in our home, chizels easily.

[Commish10 427]

You better ground that baby or Bzzzzzzz

[RT&MB 27]

The ground wire is hanging loose so it's definitely not grounded.  That appears to be a two prong plug as well so no ground installed like you would have in the US.  Only a Load 220v and Neutral.  Therefore no proper GFI either.  Some builders will tie ground and neutral together.  It's not safe to do that especially in a wet environment.   

 

If you can't move it outside the wet environment then my suggestion would be to put the outlet in the ceiling with a water proof cover over the connection. 

[Hank_ 9,174]

21 minutes ago, RT&MB said:

The ground wire is hanging loose so it's definitely not grounded.  That appears to be a two prong plug as well so no ground installed like you would have in the US.  Only a Load 220v and Neutral.  Therefore no proper GFI either.  Some builders will tie ground and neutral together.  It's not safe to do that especially in a wet environment.   

 

If you can't move it outside the wet environment then my suggestion would be to put the outlet in the ceiling with a water proof cover over the connection. 

Don't want the outlet in the ceiling .. not in the Philippines ..         Higher on the wall will solve the issue.

 

Wiring in the typical house in the Philippines does not have ground wires, the third prong is for decoration.