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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: China
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Quite sad that they combine I751 & N400 instead of issuing me a new green card first. I don't understand the logic behind this. These two are separate applications. I paid my fees and expect to get a green card instead of being in limbo like right now. Because I'm in Seattle and the N400 here takes 16+ months, that literally keeps me in limbo and in a weird & inconvenient situation for 12+16 = 28 months. During these 28 months I have to rely on the 12-month extension letter, and then the 18-month one, and now a one-year I-551 stamp, which creates a lot of trouble for international travelling and visa applications. 

 

What they really should do for locations with very long N400 wait times is to process I-751 separately with N400 so applicants can have their green card on hand while waiting for N400 to complete. The whole joint interview thing is like a deliberate delaying process punishing those of us who applied N400 under the 3 year rule.

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2015-03-23 AOS filed

2015-12-29 AOS approved

2017-10-03 I-751 filed

2018-10-02 N400 filed

2020-07-16 I-751 & N400 approved. Sworn in as a US citizen.

2020-07-16 Registered to vote & applied for passport

2020-07-20 Voted!

 

#VoteLikeYourLifeDependsOnIt

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50 minutes ago, py6 said:

Quite sad that they combine I751 & N400 instead of issuing me a new green card first. I don't understand the logic behind this. These two are separate applications. I paid my fees and expect to get a green card instead of being in limbo like right now. Because I'm in Seattle and the N400 here takes 16+ months, that literally keeps me in limbo and in a weird & inconvenient situation for 12+16 = 28 months. During these 28 months I have to rely on the 12-month extension letter, and then the 18-month one, and now a one-year I-551 stamp, which creates a lot of trouble for international travelling and visa applications. 

 

What they really should do for locations with very long N400 wait times is to process I-751 separately with N400 so applicants can have their green card on hand while waiting for N400 to complete. The whole joint interview thing is like a deliberate delaying process punishing those of us who applied N400 under the 3 year rule.

I can not agree with you more, and no offense to you specifically at all but USCIS will simply say "If you mind our practice, you are more than welcome to go back to your home country" 

USCIS is one of the 1st federal agency that every foreigners must encounter (along with CBP) to successfully live in USA, but it is just unfortunate. 

 

Also from USCIS's standpoint, double processing I 751 and N400 in a separate manner will only result in more backlog (more works to do), and while I understand their point, it is not acceptable that they malpractice the combo interview. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, py6 said:

Quite sad that they combine I751 & N400 instead of issuing me a new green card first. I don't understand the logic behind this. These two are separate applications. I paid my fees and expect to get a green card instead of being in limbo like right now. Because I'm in Seattle and the N400 here takes 16+ months, that literally keeps me in limbo and in a weird & inconvenient situation for 12+16 = 28 months. During these 28 months I have to rely on the 12-month extension letter, and then the 18-month one, and now a one-year I-551 stamp, which creates a lot of trouble for international travelling and visa applications. 

 

What they really should do for locations with very long N400 wait times is to process I-751 separately with N400 so applicants can have their green card on hand while waiting for N400 to complete. The whole joint interview thing is like a deliberate delaying process punishing those of us who applied N400 under the 3 year rule.

That's really frustrating.  16 months are too far away . They just dont give priority to these cases . I heard I 751 is not a high priority application 

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15 hours ago, I751_HK said:

That's really frustrating.  16 months are too far away . They just dont give priority to these cases . I heard I 751 is not a high priority application 

Definitely not, 20 months now and nothing that I can do it, even my lawyer said to just wait. 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: China
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What really could be a much better approach, when I talked with other people, is that instead of issuing extension letters the USCIS should issue a one-year temporary green card upon receiving the I-751 application. A one year temporary green card is much easier to use than an extension letter. 

2015-03-23 AOS filed

2015-12-29 AOS approved

2017-10-03 I-751 filed

2018-10-02 N400 filed

2020-07-16 I-751 & N400 approved. Sworn in as a US citizen.

2020-07-16 Registered to vote & applied for passport

2020-07-20 Voted!

 

#VoteLikeYourLifeDependsOnIt

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28 minutes ago, py6 said:

What really could be a much better approach, when I talked with other people, is that instead of issuing extension letters the USCIS should issue a one-year temporary green card upon receiving the I-751 application. A one year temporary green card is much easier to use than an extension letter. 

When Congress had immigration reform in 1988 as part of compromise I 751 was added to deter fraud and it was fine until late 2016 when I 751 processing time is more than 1 year. Before 2016 it uses to be 4-6 months in average with occasional 8 months and divorce waiver took more than an year. 

 

There are many reasons to contribute backlog  but one of reasons is suges of DACA and TPS and Asylum. Im not blaming them but it has been apparent that other petition types have been emphasized and urged due to increased demand while I 751 is technically for those who already had legal status so have been neglected. (Clearly I 751 backlog is NOT resulting from increased international marriage based on statistics) 

 

So in the Past it wasn't an issue but now it's been an issue. Again im not blaming anyone or defending USCIS, but it is what it is. 

 

Like mentioned USCIS will simply say you can go back to your home country if you don't mind our immigration administrative practice. 

 

We live in that kind of world

 

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: China
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Nothing is perfect, but the "if you don't like it here/if you don't like the way we do things, then go back" attitude is really a nasty and nonconstructive dialogue stopper. Not just USCIS, but in many cases immigrants have to hear it and accept that they can't really do anything to change anything. People don't like change, even if it makes things easier. Tbh, one big reason I sent in the N400 application is because I want to vote. Instead of being thwarted into passive compliance I want to vote to have my voice heard. 

2015-03-23 AOS filed

2015-12-29 AOS approved

2017-10-03 I-751 filed

2018-10-02 N400 filed

2020-07-16 I-751 & N400 approved. Sworn in as a US citizen.

2020-07-16 Registered to vote & applied for passport

2020-07-20 Voted!

 

#VoteLikeYourLifeDependsOnIt

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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On 6/1/2019 at 5:20 PM, TK619 said:

@phjs It's going to be a joint interview. They will interview you and your spouse for I-751 approval and then you will be scheduled for N-400 right after (same day). They have to approve your I-751 first before your N-400 interview. Make sure you bring your spouse and updated joint documents (ie. tax returns, apt lease,etc) with you to the interview

Thanks. I had my N400 interview scheduled and cancelled by the USCIS. They gave me no explanation at this point. 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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On 6/4/2019 at 10:27 AM, redleg627 said:

The interview was a repeat of our first GC, however this time the IO took me in first (US Citizen). He asked me how we met, Where have you traveled together, Has she met my family, those type questions. He took some recent photos, and our tax records I brought along. My interview was about 20 minutes. He this sent me back to waiting area and my wife went back (GC holder). He asked her the same questions, told her she was approved. Then they went into the N-400 interview. Asked her 6 questions from civics question pool. She got all them right. Then she had to read a simple English sentence, and write a English sentence on a IPOD device. She had about a 40 minute interview. He told her that she passed the N-400.

 

We are now waiting for Oath appointment. IO said it could be up to 45 days, depends on the scheduler. We should get another letter in the mail for that appointment.

 

I can say the the guides from this website are awesome. I provided everything the guides listed at each step of the way in our immigration process. Also read the instructions for each form slowly and carefully. Provide everything they request. Tell the truth and try to relax at the interviews. The IO can spot BS or a fake relationship quickly. The whole process is about time and money. Have patience, and keep moving on with life.

Awesome! Sounds like you had a good experience.

I had my N400 interview scheduled and cancelled by the USCIS. They offered no explanation so far. I hope that patience is one of the keys for succeeding at this process, but I'm tired of waiting and all the bureaucracy.

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53 minutes ago, phjs said:

My N-400 interview was cancelled 12 days before the date. USCIS offered no explanation in the notice. Has anyone experienced that before? If yes, how long after they rescheduled your interview?

 
 
 
 

You should call them and talk to tier 2 officer.  See what they say 

Posted
2 hours ago, phjs said:

My N-400 interview was cancelled 12 days before the date. USCIS offered no explanation in the notice. Has anyone experienced that before? If yes, how long after they rescheduled your interview?

 
 
 
 

I am sorry to hear that. Have they provided you any update on your I-751 status? 

Posted
6 hours ago, py6 said:

Nothing is perfect, but the "if you don't like it here/if you don't like the way we do things, then go back" attitude is really a nasty and nonconstructive dialogue stopper. Not just USCIS, but in many cases immigrants have to hear it and accept that they can't really do anything to change anything. People don't like change, even if it makes things easier. Tbh, one big reason I sent in the N400 application is because I want to vote. Instead of being thwarted into passive compliance I want to vote to have my voice heard. 

Not necessarily..... current trending in US is that "if you mind our practices, why don't you go back to your home country and CHANGE your home country to make better places in stead of here?".... it is like thank you, but no thank you thing. 

Not that I particularly agree with this stand point, but to me, USA is just another country that I can always go back my home country if things turn out undesirable in US. 

 

At the end of day, U.S. voters are the owner of this country, who have chosen their delegates both in government and congress, who designed the current immigration laws and system, so you are required to follow their interpretation and practices. Of course it is different story that the current immigration system is what majority of US voters really want, but at least their voices are heard. 

 

All I am saying is it is best to be patient and cooperate with USCIS for its process. Good luck! 

 

 
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