Form DS-5535 "Supplemental Questions for Visa Applicants" -- Part 2

[Visajourneyguy 6]

Just now, minie07 said:

how long did you wait before filing wom ? I was reading posts about it and they say below 1 year is not good to file

People have filed in 5 months and gotten thru.  I would suggest 4 to 6 months js enough.  I filed at 14 months as I was not even aware of such a process. We were one of the early applicant when this all started.

4 months is enough wait, the process itself will take 2 months . Demanding an answer in 6 months is fair. Also, they are just delaying it for no purpose. Once wom is filed, how come they are finish all the processes that they couldn't in 18 months and even 20+ months for some. 

Waiting more than 4 months is not worth it. I have helped quite  a few people and was also following up with many of their statuses. 

I feel the pain for people who and waiting and that is why I am giving my sincere advise. 

Go for it at 4 months and of course consult with your lawyer. 

[minie07 2]

4 minutes ago, Visajourneyguy said:

People have filed in 5 months and gotten thru.  I would suggest 4 to 6 months js enough.  I filed at 14 months as I was not even aware of such a process. We were one of the early applicant when this all started.

4 months is enough wait, the process itself will take 2 months . Demanding an answer in 6 months is fair. Also, they are just delaying it for no purpose. Once wom is filed, how come they are finish all the processes that they couldn't in 18 months and even 20+ months for some. 

Waiting more than 4 months is not worth it. I have helped quite  a few people and was also following up with many of their statuses. 

I feel the pain for people who and waiting and that is why I am giving my sincere advise. 

Go for it at 4 months and of course consult with your lawyer. 

Thank you so much for sharing your informative experience. I appreciate it. I will follow your advise. Do you know what factors does the wait time depends? I would like to know because the person who got interviewed 1 week before my husband also was given ds5535. It's same embassy, same category cr1, and both petitioners are USC. His wait was only 3 weeks. That gave me a hope that DC is working but sadly we are still waiting. 

[Visajourneyguy 6]

17 minutes ago, minie07 said:

Thank you so much for sharing your informative experience. I appreciate it. I will follow your advise. Do you know what factors does the wait time depends? I would like to know because the person who got interviewed 1 week before my husband also was given ds5535. It's same embassy, same category cr1, and both petitioners are USC. His wait was only 3 weeks. That gave me a hope that DC is working but sadly we are still waiting. 

There is no set pattern that I could figure out while I was waiting. I am sure the lawyer will say that same. This whole process seems to just an excuse to put people wait randomly.

[jamesbond123 14]

17 hours ago, Visajourneyguy said:

People have filed in 5 months and gotten thru.  I would suggest 4 to 6 months js enough.  I filed at 14 months as I was not even aware of such a process. We were one of the early applicant when this all started.

4 months is enough wait, the process itself will take 2 months . Demanding an answer in 6 months is fair. Also, they are just delaying it for no purpose. Once wom is filed, how come they are finish all the processes that they couldn't in 18 months and even 20+ months for some. 

Waiting more than 4 months is not worth it. I have helped quite  a few people and was also following up with many of their statuses. 

I feel the pain for people who and waiting and that is why I am giving my sincere advise. 

Go for it at 4 months and of course consult with your lawyer. 

What are the consequences  if they make decision not in your favor?

 

isnt DS5535 background check. If embassy don’t have background check on applicant you think court will say it’s fine? I can understand if someone was missing docs & they were just being pending review. All staff had to do is review & approve. But I see risk with ds5535 WOM

[Ahmed&Freda 628]

12 minutes ago, jamesbond123 said:

What are the consequences  if they make decision not in your favor?

 

isnt DS5535 background check. If embassy don’t have background check on applicant you think court will say it’s fine? I can understand if someone was missing docs & they were just being pending review. All staff had to do is review & approve. But I see risk with ds5535 WOM

I have only seen one return after filing a WOM but they knew it was  to be returned anyway.  They do not return because background checks are incomplete... that is a myth.  I have not seen one returned for that reason.  They must make a decision the day of the interview the ds5535 is given when they don't feel ready to make the final decision.   Its a temporary denial but I have rarely seen anyone who gets one get a full denial later.  It almost always produces a visa sometimes weeks sometimes years.  You file the WOM when you are ready and it feels right.

 

Join Facebook groups (like imigrant home) to connect with others in your situation you'll find them helpful.

[jamesbond123 14]

1 hour ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

I have only seen one return after filing a WOM but they knew it was  to be returned anyway.  They do not return because background checks are incomplete... that is a myth.  I have not seen one returned for that reason.  They must make a decision the day of the interview the ds5535 is given when they don't feel ready to make the final decision.   Its a temporary denial but I have rarely seen anyone who gets one get a full denial later.  It almost always produces a visa sometimes weeks sometimes years.  You file the WOM when you are ready and it feels right.

 

Join Facebook groups (like imigrant home) to connect with others in your situation you'll find them helpful.

 

Thanks, I m already a member in that FB group. No responses to my ds5535 post. I searched that group, I saw old post form 2018, 2017. Maybe one in 2019. If they are handing these out randomly 1 person per son consulate each month then I would expect to see more posts, like AP topic on missing docs etc. I don't see any discussion on this topic.

 

 

Edited October 20, 2020 by jamesbond123

[Ahmed&Freda 628]

15 hours ago, jamesbond123 said:

 

Thanks, I m already a member in that FB group. No responses to my ds5535 post. I searched that group, I saw old post form 2018, 2017. Maybe one in 2019. If they are handing these out randomly 1 person per son consulate each month then I would expect to see more posts, like AP topic on missing docs etc. I don't see any discussion on this topic.

 

 

I think there were more given out in 2018 for some reason.  Everything was very active back then.  Did you ever find the other wives given ds5535 from Pakistan?  I did a quick search and found https://www.visajourney.com/profile/270367-rafiq-akhtar/content/page/3/?type=forums_topic_post  

 

I was keeping a spreadsheet but have not updated it quite sometime but here are some Pakistan VJ members given ds5535 unfortunately many disappear and we don't get to hear their end result.

 

Username	Visa Type	Interview	x for complete	Months in AP
Hanza986	F2a	3/27/19
Moshin	F1	4/22/19
Saggittaruis		Feb-19	x	4
Akkhan		2/12/19
PK-FB-4		10/24/18	x	6.5
YMI		Jul-17	x
Msa1234	Cr1	Sep-18
Kab34	F2a	May-17
Aries09	F2a	Aug-17
Isaeed105	Cr1	Apr-19
Manooo		Jun-18
Malik786		Jul-18
Mira3	Cr1	Nov-18
Eng017			x	15
Usvisa5535	h1b	6/22/17	x	2
E&R	K-1		x	6
Faizan	Fb4	8/16/17	x
Rafiq Aktar	cr1	7/24/17	x	10
Waiting forever	cr1			23
aadi0014	f2a	Sep-17
kshahzad	f2a	11/9/17
Renee2016	Cr1	Apr-17	x	8
Shayzyoo		Sep-17	x	15
ZKSR	CR1	Mar-17
Rosepetal333	Cr1	Sep-18	x	7
Abdulwahabkh4n	cr1	May-18
Sarac9	k-1	7/30/18	xx	10
S.S.	f2a	Mar-18	xx	13
Luckystar78	Cr1	10/4/18
Moro123			x	16
Ahmad77	f21	12/2/18
Umer-NVC ISB	CR1	2/14/18
SRZK				28
Ahmed&Freda	Ir1	10/23/18	x	21
Sk91		Jun-18

 

 

 

Two on this list had cases returned.  

 

To get the information for those filed WOM use the facebook and what app groups  I wish more people came back here to update but unfortunately just not enough to have accurate data.

[NilsaNAnil 22]

AP for 2 years and 4.5 months after Ds5535

[jamesbond123 14]

8 hours ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

I think there were more given out in 2018 for some reason.  Everything was very active back then.  Did you ever find the other wives given ds5535 from Pakistan?  I did a quick search and found https://www.visajourney.com/profile/270367-rafiq-akhtar/content/page/3/?type=forums_topic_post  

 

I was keeping a spreadsheet but have not updated it quite sometime but here are some Pakistan VJ members given ds5535 unfortunately many disappear and we don't get to hear their end result.

 

Username	Visa Type	Interview	x for complete	Months in AP
Hanza986	F2a	3/27/19
Moshin	F1	4/22/19
Saggittaruis		Feb-19	x	4
Akkhan		2/12/19
PK-FB-4		10/24/18	x	6.5
YMI		Jul-17	x
Msa1234	Cr1	Sep-18
Kab34	F2a	May-17
Aries09	F2a	Aug-17
Isaeed105	Cr1	Apr-19
Manooo		Jun-18
Malik786		Jul-18
Mira3	Cr1	Nov-18
Eng017			x	15
Usvisa5535	h1b	6/22/17	x	2
E&R	K-1		x	6
Faizan	Fb4	8/16/17	x
Rafiq Aktar	cr1	7/24/17	x	10
Waiting forever	cr1			23
aadi0014	f2a	Sep-17
kshahzad	f2a	11/9/17
Renee2016	Cr1	Apr-17	x	8
Shayzyoo		Sep-17	x	15
ZKSR	CR1	Mar-17
Rosepetal333	Cr1	Sep-18	x	7
Abdulwahabkh4n	cr1	May-18
Sarac9	k-1	7/30/18	xx	10
S.S.	f2a	Mar-18	xx	13
Luckystar78	Cr1	10/4/18
Moro123			x	16
Ahmad77	f21	12/2/18
Umer-NVC ISB	CR1	2/14/18
SRZK				28
Ahmed&Freda	Ir1	10/23/18	x	21
Sk91		Jun-18

 

 

 

Two on this list had cases returned.  

 

To get the information for those filed WOM use the facebook and what app groups  I wish more people came back here to update but unfortunately just not enough to have accurate data.

 

Your are SUPER!!!

 

Thanks!

[jamesbond123 14]

@Ahmed&Freda Here are my comments as I did more resesarch

 

 

Username	Visa Type	Interview	x for complete	Months in AP	Notes by jamesbond123	LINK
Hanza986	F2a	3/27/2019			user not found
Moshin	F1	4/22/2019			user not found
Saggittaruis		19-Feb	x	4	Yes 4 trips n mostly to middle east that's why may be I got the form but I always stayed for hardly 10 days.	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/706690-form-ds-5535-supplemental-questions-for-visa-applicants-part-2/page/10/?tab=comments#comment-9723551
Akkhan		2/12/2019			sent email
PK-FB-4		10/24/2018	x	6.5	family visa. Brother had DS5f35	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/651440-us-consulate-islamabad-ap-update/page/95/?tab=comments#comment-9726392
YMI	IR-2	17-Jul	x		21yr Son's case	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/651440-us-consulate-islamabad-ap-update/?do=findComment&comment=9814537
Msa1234	Cr1	18-Sep			Wedding photos and pictures of our time together     Emails, chats     Copies of my wife's passport pages showing entry and exit stamps. NO DS5535	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/686818-ir-1-case-221g-islamabad-asked-to-submit-evidence-of-matrimonial-relationship/?do=findComment&comment=9416309
Kab34	F2a	17-May			Email sent.
Aries09	F2a	17-Aug			Email sent.
Isaeed105	Cr1	19-Apr			My wife had never traveled outside the country has almost no background in anything really. She is only 23 and I'm 26	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/706690-form-ds-5535-supplemental-questions-for-visa-applicants-part-2/?do=findComment&comment=9736985
Manooo		18-Jun			F4 Family visa. Got DS5535 first interview	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/706690-form-ds-5535-supplemental-questions-for-visa-applicants-part-2/page/46/?tab=comments#comment-9867798
Malik786		18-Jul			Filed WOM In Mar 2020. Email sent	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/651440-us-consulate-islamabad-ap-update/page/169/?tab=comments#comment-10164867
Mira3	Cr1	18-Nov			Filed WOM & got VISA. Sent email on DS5535	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/651440-us-consulate-islamabad-ap-update/?do=findComment&comment=10019247
Eng017			x	15	user not found
Usvisa5535	h1b	6/22/2017	x	2	Had prior two J1 visa interviews. Its work VISA
E&R	K-1		x	6
Faizan	Fb4	8/16/2017	x
Rafiq Aktar	cr1	7/24/2017	x	10
Waiting forever	cr1			23
aadi0014	f2a	17-Sep
kshahzad	f2a	11/9/2017
Renee2016	Cr1	17-Apr	x	8	WE did a k1 visa. Denied. he is a male from Pakistan he traveled within the middle east counties	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/599156-denied-after-6-monthes-in-ap-please-help/
Shayzyoo		17-Sep	x	15	Email sent	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/637938-form-ds-5535-supplemental-questions-for-visa-applicants/?do=findComment&comment=9532331
ZKSR	CR1	17-Mar			I been in 40 countries. I have couple of visas
Rosepetal3333	Cr1	18-Sep	x	7	My husband was given a ds5535 and was in AP for 7.5 months. His visa got issued on its own, they asked for new medical. I was on the verge of suing the embassy but ended up not doing it because the visa got issued on its own. My advice would be to wait like 2 months then think about suing the embassy with a writ of mandamus. Good luck.
Abdulwahabkh4n	cr1	18-May
Sarac9	k-1	7/30/2018	xx	10
S.S	f2a	18-Mar	xx	13	green card holder. After 2nd medical case returned to NVC. Got DS5535	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/637938-form-ds-5535-supplemental-questions-for-visa-applicants/page/237/?tab=comments#comment-9666360
Luckystar78	Cr1	10/4/2018			2nd marriage. Sent email.
Moro123			x	16	user not found
Ahmad77	f21	12/2/2018			I have a travel history of 4 different counties, it means my processing time will take time longer than normal processing time ??	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/637938-form-ds-5535-supplemental-questions-for-visa-applicants/?do=findComment&comment=9524496
Umer-NVC ISB	CR1	2/14/2018			She was raised is Saudi. She visited US before. She had long travel history. They asked for all travel history and social media accounts. Also they asked for her siblings information.  Filed WOM	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/651440-us-consulate-islamabad-ap-update/page/166/
SRZK				28	wedding photos, IRS transcript. Email sent	https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/722489-whats-that-meaning-of-this-letter/?tab=comments#comment-9916688
Ahmed&Freda	Ir1	10/23/2018	x	21	Filed WOM
Sk91		18-Jun			yes I filed WOM in March. Email sent

[minie07 2]

I have just created a group on facebook to help each other with DS 5535 process. I hope it will be helpful to share updates with each other since there is no other way to track this process. Group name is DS-5535 timeline for CR1 applicants. here is the link for it https://www.facebook.com/groups/348761209541621/ . You are welcome to join

[Ahmed&Freda 628]

This was only a snippet of my spreadsheet.  I could not post all the data.  

 

Keep researching and adding new members it will at the very least keep your mind busy.

[jamesbond123 14]

26 minutes ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

This was only a snippet of my spreadsheet.  I could not post all the data.  

 

Keep researching and adding new members it will at the very least keep your mind busy.

Maybe you could post google sheet. I’m so free nowadays that I can research more & more. Mind is losing it everyday!

 

4 hours ago, minie07 said:

I have just created a group on facebook to help each other with DS 5535 process. I hope it will be helpful to share updates with each other since there is no other way to track this process. Group name is DS-5535 timeline for CR1 applicants. here is the link for it https://www.facebook.com/groups/348761209541621/ . You are welcome to join

Thanks, will join. There are few others on FB. But not much activity 

[minie07 2]

20 minutes ago, jamesbond123 said:

Maybe you could post google sheet. I’m so free nowadays that I can research more & more. Mind is losing it everyday!

 

Thanks, will join. There are few others on FB. But not much activity 

I agree with the google sheet. I am so free as well and can definitely help!

[jamesbond123 14]

2 hours ago, minie07 said:

I agree with the google sheet. I am so free as well and can definitely help!

I found this on this forum.  I think its old, but can be useful

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/140gB8hDCJqi4oB4-dOcsnE5dopNx9TLDn0jZyec-iwA/edit?hl=en&hl=en#gid=0

 

 

@Ahmed&Freda is that what you had?