USA Today: President Donald Trump orders crackdown on 'visa overstays' in latest push against illegal immigration

[SalishSea 17,818]

1 minute ago, NYCruiser said:

Does not matter. Once you are married within the 90 days, then the K1 purpose has been met,

I think the confusion here is license (pre) vs certificate (post).  I can't imagine it would take 90 days to just get a license, but I think that was how some people interpreted this comment.

[theresaL 408]

1 minute ago, Jorgedig said:

I think the confusion here is license (pre) vs certificate (post).  I can't imagine it would take 90 days to just get a license, but I think that was how some people interpreted this comment.

Agree. I thought the OP of this was confusing the two. Even so, both can be easily solved by going to Las Vegas to get married. Plenty of people do.

[NYCruiser 423]

48 minutes ago, junkmart said:

It didn’t seem to be well thought out, like many things this administration does, IMO.  Stephen Miller strikes again.

What exactly is not thought out? Visa Overstayers and what should be done? I think President Trump is marvelous on this area

[theresaL 408]

4 minutes ago, NYCruiser said:

What exactly is not thought out? Visa Overstayers and what should be done? I think President Trump is marvelous on this area

Exactly. The President isn't saying there is a plan in place and it applies to this, this and this scenario. He has tasked the applicable agencies to look into the situation and come back with recommendations. I would imagine after the 4 months this is what will then lead to a formulated plan and proposals. So for someone to say it's not well thought out is jumping ahead of the process.

[Cathi 5,746]

27 minutes ago, Boiler said:

What if they have been here for 5 years as a Student or on a Work Visa?

It would depend on the individual circumstance but if we make an exception to some, there would have be be an exception for all. I think it should be eliminated.

[Scandi 4,166]

8 hours ago, yuna628 said:

If it takes more than 90 days to get a license then the couple should be taking their business elsewhere. If it's more than 90 days to get a certificate of proof of their marriage that's of no consequence to a K1.

It takes a few hours to get the license when you order it online here in Los Angeles county.

 

The marriage certificate on the other hand takes months. That's why people are wondering what will happen now, as a K-1 only has 90 days to stay in the US legally. When those 90 days are up you will have to file for AOS to keep being legal.

 

And if it takes more than 90 days just to get the marriage certificate, and with the new changes at USCIS where they can deny your petition for not sending all required documents... Well.. tough situation.. You can't send an AOS application without the marriage certificate as USCIS will likely just deny you anyway, so you have no choice being here unlawfully for a while then.

 

Me and my husband were lucky, we only waited a month for our marriage certificate back in 2016.

[Boiler 45,467]

With a K1 marry asap and marry somewhere it will not take months to get a Certificate.

[theresaL 408]

We hand walked our marriage license 3 days after the wedding to the county court house and waited while they stamped, registered, notarized it and prepared 5 copies for us to take with us. Total time 30 mins. I realize LA county is much bigger than the county I live in, but they must offer other options than just mailing it in and then waiting. Often times the delay is caused by the marriage officiant not sending in the paperwork in a timely manner. Also, we didn't file for AOS until 2 months after 90 days had expired and there was no problem.

[Ben & Katy 168]

This is what Trump should have been focusing on the entire time.  Overstays are more common than people hoping the fence, coming over in containers etc.  I mean anyway you look at it its just as much as an uphill battle as the war on drugs but this would be a better thing to focus on.  Its way too easy to come in with a visitor's visa and then never go back home.  

[Scandi 4,166]

5 minutes ago, theresaL said:

We hand walked our marriage license 3 days after the wedding to the county court house and waited while they stamped, registered, notarized it and prepared 5 copies for us to take with us. Total time 30 mins. I realize LA county is much bigger than the county I live in, but they must offer other options than just mailing it in and then waiting. Often times the delay is caused by the marriage officiant not sending in the paperwork in a timely manner. Also, we didn't file for AOS until 2 months after 90 days had expired and there was no problem.

No, it's not about preparing the marriage certificate. It takes months for the county clerk staff to RECORD the marriage. There can't be a marriage certificate before the marriage has been recorded/registered. That's what takes so long, not the actual document itself.

 

I called everyday to ask about the recording of our marriage and like I said, we were lucky to only have to wait for 1 month. Once recorded we drove down and picked up the certificate a few hours later. 

 

We got married at the county clerk so we never had to mail any papers to them. They fixed it all, there was just a loooong line of other marriages that had to be recorded before ours.

Edited April 23, 2019 by Scandi

[Ben & Katy 168]

9 hours ago, missileman said:

This brings into my mind a question...........What do the majority of these millions of people who overstay do?  Do they just continue to live here illegally, or do they marry USCs and then adjust status?

 

They live here illegally under someone elses SSN.  They are able to work, rent a place, take out credit.  They either borrow it from someone, use a dead persons SSN, fake SSN or steal identities to be able to live here.  You would be amazed of some of the stuff I have seen here in Arizona.  

 

And the people that don't use other peoples identities work under the table cleaning houses or babysitting.  Here in Tucson alot of illegals do that and before their time is up on their I-94 they cross back into mexico, then renew their I-94 and then reenter Arizona to repeat, rinse and wash.   Vicious cycle. 

[theresaL 408]

10 minutes ago, Scandi said:

No, it's not about preparing the marriage certificate. It takes months for the county clerk staff to RECORD the marriage. There can't be a marriage certificate before the marriage has been recorded/registered. That's what takes so long, not the actual document itself.

 

I called everyday to ask about the recording of our marriage and like I said, we were lucky to only have to wait for 1 month. Once recorded we drove down and picked up the certificate a few hours later. 

 

We got married at the county clerk so we never had to mail any papers to them. They fixed it all, there was just a loooong line of other marriages that had to be recorded before ours.

Sounds like they are understaffed in the Recorders office or not very efficient. That's something that can be remedied at election time. 

[yuna628 9,671]

1 hour ago, Scandi said:

It takes a few hours to get the license when you order it online here in Los Angeles county.

 

The marriage certificate on the other hand takes months. That's why people are wondering what will happen now, as a K-1 only has 90 days to stay in the US legally. When those 90 days are up you will have to file for AOS to keep being legal.

 

And if it takes more than 90 days just to get the marriage certificate, and with the new changes at USCIS where they can deny your petition for not sending all required documents... Well.. tough situation.. You can't send an AOS application without the marriage certificate as USCIS will likely just deny you anyway, so you have no choice being here unlawfully for a while then.

 

Me and my husband were lucky, we only waited a month for our marriage certificate back in 2016.

And some county clerks are ignorant of an immigrant marriage and try to cause problems, as I've seen sometimes on this forum. My advise is the same here. Each county in my state have differing rules about marriages. Luckily our county is quite fast, but if they had a reputation for being slow or something like you describe, we'd have gone elsewhere. No county (is this just in one county or all counties?) deserve your business if it is that incompetent. Ensuring the process goes right for your immigrant spouse is important.

Edited April 24, 2019 by yuna628

[visahopeful2018 2]

15 hours ago, Mike E said:

Because it takes more than 90 days to get a marriage certificate from LA county. 

Why does it take so long?

[TBoneTX 45,266]

9 hours ago, celie&joseph said:

people actually think that's okay, even if they are told it's fraud. They don't care; anything to get their beloved here faster.

"I've got no self-control, and I don't want any!"

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This recommendation is too little, too late for the U.S. -- or "locking the barn door after the horse is stolen" -- but some countries have both entry and exit controls.  Ecuador is one.  Visitors are stamped in at port of entry and stamped out when they leave.  The dates of stay are scrutinized.

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Adjustment from tourist visas here was called, by a retired CO who used to post here, "the change of mind at baggage claim."  He was heatedly opposed to AOS from tourist visas.