USA Today: President Donald Trump orders crackdown on 'visa overstays' in latest push against illegal immigration

[davidvs 337]

21 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So I informed him that he would have to wait until he gets the EAD to get bank account for his now fiancé. 

There are some banks (TD for sure) that will give you an account with just an ITIN. So as long as the fiance qualifies for an ITIN, they are golden. 

[Ash.1101 1,756]

30 minutes ago, Zoeeeeeee said:

Appreciate the conversation has moved on somewhat...but I will (if all goes according to plan) be entering on a K1 visa and will be getting married in LA...so I guess we’ll see what happens. We will be applying for AOS as soon as we can and we intend to follow all rules, procedures and laws - so I feel fairly confident that I won’t be deported - perhaps I’m being naive? 

If you’re following all of the rules and procedures you shouldn’t have any fear of deportation because USCIS shouldn't have any grounds for deportation.

 

these people that are being talked about here are those who stayed illegally, not those who came in legally and continued to maintain some form of status.

[SJordanS 343]

7 hours ago, Mike E said:

Well that should put an end to K-1s getting married in LA county.  

False infiemation. It refers to “visitor visas” K1 is not a vistors Visa. 

[Celie 793]

7 hours ago, Georgia16 said:

Well i Think it was about time! Way to may think it’s okay to just stay after they get a visa to visit. 

Hopefully they will stop adjustment from visitor visas also. 

THISSSSS ❤️

 

I've been saying this for years and people look at me crazy and argue it. Many people think it's okay because the government makes staying and adjusting okay by making it an option. Take it away and it stops. Heck, they may even see a decline in visitor visa applications.

 

One girl on a K1 visa page on FB even said to me "Well, if we had that chance to use a tourist visa, we would have. I don't see why you would want to take that away." Some people actually think that's okay, even if they are told it's fraud. They don't care; anything to get their beloved here faster. It's frustrating.

Edited April 23, 2019 by celie&joseph

[junkmart 320]

51 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So I informed him that he would have to wait until he gets the EAD to get bank account for his now fiancé.

I got a bank account before even filing concurrent AOS. My bank didn't require anything other than a passport.

[SJordanS 343]

6 hours ago, missileman said:

This brings into my mind a question...........What do the majority of these millions of people who overstay do?  Do they just continue to live here illegally, or do they marry USCs and then adjust status?

 

I can tell you from two women I personally know with the men they met. One overstayed by 3 weeks and another was just before his Visa expired. They married immediately and adjusted. In fact I asked advice here on one of the women just a few days ago. So Im glad they arw enforcing this. 

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1 minute ago, SJordanS said:

I can tell you from two women I personally know with the men they met. One overstayed by 3 weeks and another was just before his Visa expired. They married immediately and adjusted. In fact I asked advice here on one of the women just a few days ago. So Im glad they arw enforcing this. 

Enforcing what?

[junkmart 320]

It appears that the memo applies to countries with overstay rates greater than 10 percent. Those countries are mostly African and Middle East, and include:

• Angola
• Burundi
• Chad
• The Republic of the Congo
• Djibouti
• Eritrea
• Liberia
• Nigeria
• Somalia
• South Sudan

Other sources, including USA Today increase that number to 21 countries, still mostly African and Asian.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-memorandum-combating-high-nonimmigrant-overstay-rates/

https://eiglaw.com/alerts/recent-trump-administration-memo-targets-nations-with-high-rates-of-visa-overstays/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/23/countries-targeted-trump-crackdown-visa-overstays-mostly-african-asian/3549749002/

Edited April 23, 2019 by junkmart

[yuna628 9,676]

25 minutes ago, junkmart said:

I got a bank account before even filing concurrent AOS. My bank didn't require anything other than a passport.

Same here. Got our bank account set up by showing them our 'placeholder' marriage license which they give you in this county before you pick up the certified copy after a small waiting period. They weren't supposed to let you do it with that document but the lady let us slide. We applied for the SSN on the same day, so he didn't have that yet either. Passport was fine.

[junkmart 320]

Just now, yuna628 said:

Same here. Got our bank account set up by showing them our 'placeholder' marriage license which they give you in this county before you pick up the certified copy after a small waiting period. They weren't supposed to let you do it with that document but the lady let us slide. We applied for the SSN on the same day, so he didn't have that yet either. Passport was fine.

I took my marriage certificate, but the bank didn't even need that! Just the passport. This was International Bank of Commerce which has branches in Texas and Oklahoma.

[Scott001 128]

17 minutes ago, junkmart said:

I took my marriage certificate, but the bank didn't even need that! Just the passport. This was International Bank of Commerce which has branches in Texas and Oklahoma.

Same with us. My wife and I opened a joint account a credit union. We had to sign some form because she doesn't have SSN/ITIN then they took a copy of her passport. There was one catch though. The bank said she couldn't be the primary on the account because she's doesn't have SSN/ITIN. So whatever.

 

(Next time she visits we plan on getting her a ITIN)

Edited April 23, 2019 by Scott001

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7 hours ago, missileman said:

This brings into my mind a question...........What do the majority of these millions of people who overstay do?  Do they just continue to live here illegally, or do they marry USCs and then adjust status?

 

 

Both. The ones I know about came here on tourist visas*, and got jobs at one of the following: restaurant, corner store (aka bodega aka small non-chain convenience type store), housekeeping, or child care. Some eventually married US citizens and adjusted. Some still here illegally. One woman I met lived here for several years, eventually married an American, and as soon as she got her citizenship, sponsored her son, who she hadn't seen since he was a little child (and was a teenager when he immigrated here). And it is people like her that basically make it impossible for my wife's siblings to get a tourist visa. 

 

*Pretty much all the ones I know about are Indonesian. I don't know about other nationalities... 

 

Edited to add: what made her story even more "interesting" was she came here via a "recruiter", who connected her with her first job in the States (some Chinese restaurant in Colorado). That was over 15 years ago though, and I am under the impression it is harder for Indonesians to get a B2 visa now than back then, so that business might have gone away, but I don't know. 

 

 

 

Edited April 23, 2019 by usmsbow

[George & Roth 1,485]

As long as we don’t allow the wall.

 

We will need to see what plans they come up with in the stipulated 4 months time, can’t really evaluate this until the specific measures are revealed. 

[theresaL 408]

1 hour ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

This is what astounds me as well in reality. When you actually sit down and talk to people that shout out that "We need to fix the broken immigration system" and ask them "How can we go about doing that or what ideas do you have in regards to fixing it?". These very same people who just 2 minutes previously were shouting to the rooftops about fixing the broken system are quiet and have no idea what to say. This is because it is just a cliché thing to say all the while the vast majority have no idea what it means, or if they do they want open borders. 

Yes, because it's just so much easier to throw the baby out with the bath water instead of actually educating themselves on the immigration process, understanding what the problems are and/or come up with ideas to solve the problem. It's just so much easier to believe what the MSM is telling you and blame it all on Trump and oppose anything he suggests.

[Celie 793]

42 minutes ago, junkmart said:

It appears that the memo applies to countries with overstay rates greater than 10 percent. Those countries are mostly African and Middle East, and include:

• Angola
• Burundi
• Chad
• The Republic of the Congo
• Djibouti
• Eritrea
• Liberia
• Nigeria
• Somalia
• South Sudan

Other sources, including USA Today increase that number to 21 countries, still mostly African and Asian.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-memorandum-combating-high-nonimmigrant-overstay-rates/

https://eiglaw.com/alerts/recent-trump-administration-memo-targets-nations-with-high-rates-of-visa-overstays/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/23/countries-targeted-trump-crackdown-visa-overstays-mostly-african-asian/3549749002/

Thank you for the links.

 

I was excited about this reform until I read the articles. Upon reading, it seems like a thwarted way of doing things. He is going by percentages which can't define how many people ACTUALLY overstay based on country. Percentages can vary by the whole sample size. For example, Brazil has a 1.65% overstay but at a 2.2million expected departures, you're looking at 36k people overstaying in 1 year. As opposed to the 44.67% overstay from Djibouti (the highest I found on the list) with a total of 403 expected departures, leaving the overstay number of people at about 180. I agree he shouldn't make it easier for them, but these tiny countries are not where the numbers are coming from. Makes you think.. what is he trying to accomplish exactly? lol If he truly wanted to reform immigration, you would think he would target total numbers not percentages.