USA Today: President Donald Trump orders crackdown on 'visa overstays' in latest push against illegal immigration

[treppenwitz 78]

  On 4/24/2019 at 1:25 PM, The_Empyrean said:

Why do we have to pay for filling, while asylum seekers, DACA don't?

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DACA is not completely free, but still too cheap IMO.

Biometrics: $85.00

I-821D: $0.00

I-765: $410.00

Total: $495.00 for employment authorization during the 2 year period of deferred action

[TBoneTX 46,502]

  On 4/24/2019 at 4:13 PM, The_Empyrean said:

i don't understand why people are siding with illegals, and their "rights". Then all people who break the law, but not criminal, should be excused as "hardship".

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Just about the ONLY stories that we read in the newspapers are sobs about poor Maria de Jesus Sanchez de Garcia, who hoofed it with her 4 young children all the way from an impoverished, gang-infested backwater town in rural Guatemala, and is now stuck outside the border because mean Pres. Trump (or CBP, or whatever governing authority) won't let them in for a better life.  They haven't had baths for 10 days and the children are whining because they're hungry and CBP is processing only a dozen asylum cases per day.  Etc., etc., etc.

 

People (whom I know) are responding:

1)  Maria de Jesus should have thought of that before joining her caravan.

2)  The instant she's permitted entry, she should be arrested on multiple counts of Child Endangerment, then be immediately deported along with all her vulnerable descendants (so as not to separate families as the mean, evil Pres. Obama Trump conceived of doing and then did).

[Boiler 46,476]

Begs the question why she has not sought Asylum in Mexico and why the Mexican authorities have not intervened.

[TBoneTX 46,502]

It's against Mexican immigration laws & standards, that's why.

[The_Empyrean 733]

  On 4/24/2019 at 4:45 PM, TBoneTX said:

Just about the ONLY stories that we read in the newspapers are sobs about poor Maria de Jesus Sanchez de Garcia, who hoofed it with her 4 young children all the way from an impoverished, gang-infested backwater town in rural Guatemala, and is now stuck outside the border because mean Pres. Trump (or CBP, or whatever governing authority) won't let them in for a better life.  They haven't had baths for 10 days and the children are whining because they're hungry and CBP is processing only a dozen asylum cases per day.  Etc., etc., etc.

 

People (whom I know) are responding:

1)  Maria de Jesus should have thought of that before joining her caravan.

2)  The instant she's permitted entry, she should be arrested on multiple counts of Child Endangerment, then be immediately deported along with all her vulnerable descendants (so as not to separate families as the mean, evil Pres. Obama Trump conceived of doing and then did).

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THAT!

 

all the poor immigrants waiting at the border.. You knew where you're going, you knew you're breaking the law, You knew what you're putting your children through. Stop whining and face the consequences. Deport, without trial. Dump them outside the border and let them come back where they came from. It's infuriating how everyone is portraying all those caravans as "good" and CBP, ICE and other protective organizations as "bad". I literally unfollowed ALL celebrities and people who support illegal immigration. It's just plain inconsiderate and selfish. And people believe these stories, because well.. Trump.. Trump must be bad. he has no idea what he's doing, when reality is YOU don't have enough education to figure out whats going on, and why.

 

I'm an immigrant as i said before. 90% of US are immigrants. Difference is, majority came during the wars, fleeing battlefields and fronts that appeared on their houses, literally.

Some get here through green card. Which numbers should be reduced IMHO. 

 

If it's THAT bad in your country that you can't live there. Move to a different country and start over. Why USA? Because the crying will get you the same benefits, as someone who came here on K-1. Spend thousands on filling fee's, YEARS of waiting (K-1 + AoS + ROC). Because someone who has no background, but is famous cries on instagram story, how inhumane Border Patrol is. 

it's insane. 

[The_Empyrean 733]

  On 4/24/2019 at 4:51 PM, Boiler said:

Begs the question why she has not sought Asylum in Mexico and why the Mexican authorities have not intervened.

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They did. Mexican govt made a statement, that if caravan won't get through, or get moving, they will be deported from Mexico, as they are causing mayhem there too. WHAT AN IRONY, isnt it?

[millefleur 5,047]

I forgot to mention that I witnessed a deportation in progress once at JFK...a Russian speaking guy was being accompanied at the airport and he had at least 2-3 officers (I think they were CBP, police or some other law enforcement) with him at all times, he wasn't allowed out of their sight. He was monitored even when making phone calls on his cell. So, I'm guessing this is where the expense part comes in, not only is there the travel cost but also paying law enforcement agents to be with the person at all times...plus I'm sure there are a lot of other expenses if the person tries to resist arrest, lawyers, etc....it's understandable why this is done so rarely. On paper mass deportations sound like a great idea, in reality...very expensive, very difficult to do even with one person. 

 

That's why the reform really has to start before people even get in, I like the idea someone mentioned about bonds. Honestly, if you can buy a plane ticket overseas to visit the US, you can cough up $1000 for a bond. When I was applying for a French student visa back in the day, I was considering switching over to a French work visa later on as I had an offer in the works. When I ask the French consular officer in the US if I could adjust my visa within France to a work visa later on, she just said point blank: "No, you have enough money in the bank to return to the US and reapply for the correct work visa," as she looked down at my bank statements that I was required to submit to get a student visa. I thought that was harsh and it made me angry at the time, now I totally get it and think France is right to require people to adjust outside the country.

[Celie 793]

  On 4/24/2019 at 4:33 PM, TBoneTX said:

When the rogue, ####### Guayaquil consulate hosed us for the K-1, Mrs. T-B.-to-be and I agreed, somberly and without discussion, that if she were an illegal Mexican, she'd be here already and would be on top of the world.

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I completely agree. From experience, I feel sometimes being a legal Mexican is worse than being an illegal Mexican. lol

 

[Unidentified 2,930]

  On 4/24/2019 at 6:00 AM, givionte said:

And how exactly is that fair for anyone who had worked here for years, perhaps got married and started a family?  Or someone who has been a student in our high schools and universities, and wants to stay and work legally?  Sending them back home only to file new paperwork is quite ridiculous, even countries with strict visa and immigration laws like China can adjust your status without leaving the country in the majority of cases.

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It is fair because that is the way you do it. I was here for 2 years as an Au Pair and then 1 year as a student. I still went home at the end of my time and we filed K1 because that was the right way to do it. 

[theresaL 408]

  On 4/24/2019 at 6:41 PM, millefleur said:

I forgot to mention that I witnessed a deportation in progress once at JFK...a Russian speaking guy was being accompanied at the airport and he had at least 2-3 officers (I think they were CBP, police or some other law enforcement) with him at all times, he wasn't allowed out of their sight. He was monitored even when making phone calls on his cell. So, I'm guessing this is where the expense part comes in, not only is there the travel cost but also paying law enforcement agents to be with the person at all times...plus I'm sure there are a lot of other expenses if the person tries to resist arrest, lawyers, etc....it's understandable why this is done so rarely. On paper mass deportations sound like a great idea, in reality...very expensive, very difficult to do even with one person. 

 

That's why the reform really has to start before people even get in, I like the idea someone mentioned about bonds. Honestly, if you can buy a plane ticket overseas to visit the US, you can cough up $1000 for a bond. When I was applying for a French student visa back in the day, I was considering switching over to a French work visa later on as I had an offer in the works. When I ask the French consular officer in the US if I could adjust my visa within France to a work visa later on, she just said point blank: "No, you have enough money in the bank to return to the US and reapply for the correct work visa," as she looked down at my bank statements that I was required to submit to get a student visa. I thought that was harsh and it made me angry at the time, now I totally get it and think France is right to require people to adjust outside the country.

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Even as the spouse of a French citizen I have to apply for a long stay visa (Visa de long sejour) outside of the country if I plan to stay longer than 90 days. The visa can not be denied however and as the spouse of said French citizen it's free. I can then enter France and request a French Residence card that  needs to be renewed each year. A physical exam is required too. Once I have the Residence card I can work legally. Every country has it's own process.

[Unidentified 2,930]

  On 4/24/2019 at 1:25 PM, The_Empyrean said:

why everyone has to suffer?
Why do we have to be delayed, CITIZENS, just because some illegals want to adjust status? Why do we have to be in the same line? Why do we have to pay for filling, while asylum seekers, DACA don't?

Because of the "equal rights". People who go by the rules, suffer for inconsiderate, selfish, reckless, law-breakers decisions, who only get slap on the wrist. While we (PEOPLE WHO PAY AND FUND) have to wait 2-3x times longer to get our cases processed because of them.

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You know they're not processed at the same centers, right? 

[Unlockable 7,316]

When dealing with immigration there are two extremes; 1. complete open borders and 2. no immigration at all. Both are unrealistic and are not the answer. The ideal is suppose to be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes, but it seems that there is too much tug-of-war which pulls the flag more to the extremes than to the center.

[Unidentified 2,930]

  On 4/24/2019 at 3:49 PM, Bill & Katya said:

You mentioned Australia, don't they segregate their asylum seekers on an island somewhere?

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Don't know about Australia but I have heard Denmark is planning on doing it with people they can't grant asylum but can't deport either. 

[Lil bear 4,383]

  On 4/24/2019 at 7:08 PM, Unlockable said:

When dealing with immigration there are two extremes; 1. complete open borders and 2. no immigration at all. Both are unrealistic and are not the answer. The ideal is suppose to be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes, but it seems that there is too much tug-of-war which pulls the flag more to the extremes than to the center.

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Well said. I have been in and out of the US for 40 years now ... twice as LPR for over 10 years and many many trips each year as we have children and gchildren here. As an “ outsider”, it seems to me that I have not seen the US as polarised and divided as it is now ... probably the last time it was this divided would have over the Vietnam war and the draft. This polarisation destroys good reasonable debate and makes balance and healthy realistic judgement and decisions almost impossible. 

[Lil bear 4,383]

  On 4/24/2019 at 7:14 PM, Unidentified said:

Don't know about Australia but I have heard Denmark is planning on doing it with people they can't grant asylum but can't deport either. 

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Yes. The govt ruled about 4 years ago that no one seeking refugee outside of the UNHCR process would ever be settled in Australia. The process has been offshore detention with resettlement being arranged in other countries for those whose refugee status is validated. Success of this policy ?? A great reduction in boat arrivals .. the Australian equivalent of migrant caravans .. so far fewer drowning deaths  of those risking the route..but for those interred under the policy it has not resulted in good quick outcomes