USA Today: President Donald Trump orders crackdown on 'visa overstays' in latest push against illegal immigration

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

some folks I knew telling me she should fly to Mexico and cross illegally.  Of course we did not take that route, but it is amazing to hear how some people think.

LOL....They have no idea as to what kind of problems that would have brought you......

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4 minutes ago, Mollie09 said:

This was in response to someone who said people should only be able to adjust from a K-1. People should also be able to adjust from work/study visas, where they would be doing all of these things LEGALLY for years.

I married on an H1B, it would make no sense to make me quit my job to go back to my home country for my husband to petition me from there.

Agreed, if someone has a dual intent visa they should be able to adjust.  A co-worker of mine is on an H1B and he is filing for a GC (E2 I believe), unfortunately he is from India, so I think the wait is 10+ years.

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9 minutes ago, Mollie09 said:

This was in response to someone who said people should only be able to adjust from a K-1. People should also be able to adjust from work/study visas, where they would be doing all of these things LEGALLY for years.

I married on an H1B, it would make no sense to make me quit my job to go back to my home country for my husband to petition me from there.

Of course. I tried to state it for those who overstay and abuse their non-immigrant visa and continue to remain here knowing they are not supposed to be here. Obviously a person that has been here legally should have the option to adjust.

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10 minutes ago, missileman said:

LOL....They have no idea as to what kind of problems that would have brought you......

Most people are idiots relative to immigration.  Like I mentioned earlier, even some immigration attorneys suggesting a B2 adjustment over a CR1/K1 is a bit troubling.

 

1 minute ago, Unlockable said:

Of course. I tried to state it for those who overstay and abuse their non-immigrant visa and continue to remain here knowing they are not supposed to be here. Obviously a person that has been here legally should have the option to adjust.

If they have a valid DIV.

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10 minutes ago, LenaT said:

I don't understand why they should limit people who may have real reasons to come to the country because somebody else overstayed before?!

 

Before coming on a K1 visa I applied for a tourist visa to meet my boyfriend's family and see the country he is from. I didn't want or plan to overstay (had only a two week vacation) but was denied like many others, because of the image other people in my country create. Yes, I know that many people get tourist visas, overstay and live happily while appling for some kind of a deal to get a GC. It was not my story and I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who got denied for the same reason in a similar situation. I just feel outraged that instead of doing something after the people arrive they want to stop people from arriving so they won't need to bother.

In Russia, for example,  every foreigner coming to the country must register in any police office within 3 days upon arrival (many hotels or hostels do it too), so there is a clear picture where the person is. Why not do the same? We were all asked at the visa interview and by officers at airports about the length of our visit. Why not make people come to any local immigration office when they are going to leave to support their return ticket as a proof and then just check with the airline if the person really took the flight. I may be a fool in such questions, but it seems to be doable..

why everyone has to suffer?
Why do we have to be delayed, CITIZENS, just because some illegals want to adjust status? Why do we have to be in the same line? Why do we have to pay for filling, while asylum seekers, DACA don't?

Because of the "equal rights". People who go by the rules, suffer for inconsiderate, selfish, reckless, law-breakers decisions, who only get slap on the wrist. While we (PEOPLE WHO PAY AND FUND) have to wait 2-3x times longer to get our cases processed because of them.

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43 minutes ago, The_Empyrean said:

if a person scooped up $1000 for a ticket from europe, another grand would be bad considering how much they could "Make illegally" while staying here. It won't be enough. Something like Parole office would work. If you come from a very high fraud country, $3,000 at the POE, + going back to CBP to register again, or renew monthly (if staying longer than a month), for a redetermination of stay.

Thousand bucks is nothing for the risk. The money collected from Overstays, should cover the DACA, Asylum seekers etc. It should have nothing to with US. Need for a separate branch to deal with DACA, Asylum seekers, and now bond collections is massive. I think USCIS should branch off and create additional department dealing with illegal immigration, anchors, DACA, Asylum, refugees, rather than the same dept who is funded by us. Money collected from Bonds and some federal funding, should do the trick. Federal money would open peoples' minds' on how much we're paying for them now. The "poor illegals immigrants who do nothing wrong..."

I could go for that.  Again, it would be per traveler regardless of age.  I know this is not a DACA discussion, but it is a general discussion regarding border security, if DACAs are eventually taken care of via Congressional action, what will happen at the borders if we have not secured them first?

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

I could go for that.  Again, it would be per traveler regardless of age.  I know this is not a DACA discussion, but it is a general discussion regarding border security, if DACAs are eventually taken care of via Congressional action, what will happen at the borders if we have not secured them first?

exactly. Prevention is the best solution. Rather than trying to find them in USA, prevent them from coming in ,in the first place. 

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7 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Most people are idiots relative to immigration.  Like I mentioned earlier, even some immigration attorneys suggesting a B2 adjustment over a CR1/K1 is a bit troubling.

 

Lawyers are there to look after the best interests of their Clients, not to uphold the ToS. 

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4 minutes ago, The_Empyrean said:

why everyone has to suffer?

Why suffer? I don't get what you mean. Yes, life is unfair, but there are laws that should be followed otherwise why have them in the first place?

You say that citizens suffer, as if they are the only one in this pickle! What about people on the other end of a K1 who may not even want to move to the US but have to wait and then hear jokes or stories about how easy it is to immigrate and answer questions like "did you always dream of coming to the US?" forever?

I absolutely agree that people who get a shortcut delay the processing for those who waited, but again, it is the problem of the system everyone complains about but except saying about it nothing seems to be done to solve it.

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6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Lawyers are there to look after the best interests of their Clients, not to uphold the ToS. 

I was thinking the same thing when I was writing it, but to me the troubling aspect is an immigration lawyer that doesn't think deceiving CBP is a bad act.

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4 minutes ago, LenaT said:

Why suffer? I don't get what you mean. Yes, life is unfair, but there are laws that should be followed otherwise why have them in the first place?

You say that citizens suffer, as if they are the only one in this pickle! What about people on the other end of a K1 who may not even want to move to the US but have to wait and then hear jokes or stories about how easy it is to immigrate and answer questions like "did you always dream of coming to the US?" forever?

I absolutely agree that people who get a shortcut delay the processing for those who waited, but again, it is the problem of the system everyone complains about but except saying about it nothing seems to be done to solve it.

If someone doesn't want to live or move to the US, why apply for a US visa?

 

I think everyone can agree, the system is broken and for years has suffered from lax enforcement, it is refreshing to see a president actually doing something about it.

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3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I was thinking the same thing when I was writing it, but to me the troubling aspect is an immigration lawyer that doesn't think deceiving CBP is a bad act.

They are Lawyers.

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Just now, Bill & Katya said:

If someone doesn't want to live or move to the US, why apply for a US visa?

 

I think everyone can agree, the system is broken and for years has suffered from lax enforcement, it is refreshing to see a president actually doing something about it.

For some people, it's purely about being with their spouse, and it just works out best to do that in the US. At the other end of the spectrum, for some people, it's purely about living in the US, and it just works out best that it's with a spouse.

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9 minutes ago, LenaT said:

Why suffer? I don't get what you mean. Yes, life is unfair, but there are laws that should be followed otherwise why have them in the first place?

You say that citizens suffer, as if they are the only one in this pickle! What about people on the other end of a K1 who may not even want to move to the US but have to wait and then hear jokes or stories about how easy it is to immigrate and answer questions like "did you always dream of coming to the US?" forever?

I absolutely agree that people who get a shortcut delay the processing for those who waited, but again, it is the problem of the system everyone complains about but except saying about it nothing seems to be done to solve it.

You don't get what i mean by suffer?

 

I don't see pleasure in waiting for visa 2x longer because resources were allocated somewhere else, who don't pay a dime.

I don't see pleasure in waiting for Ead/ap/AoS because of resources being allocated somewhere else, who don't pay a dime.

 

We pay for them, we allow them in based on bogus "asylums", we give them everything from get go. While people who actually pay and go by the rules are getting messed over.

 

Nor my now wife wasn't forced to move to USA, nor anyone is making anyone to move to USA. 

I'm an immigrant myself. i had those questions, and i don't find those questions difficult or life affecting in anyway. Nor my wife does. The only "otherside" of K-1 is moving away from friends and family. And "otherside" K-1's are suffering because of long processing times, who are caused by people mentioned in other posts.

A bit clearer? 

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Just now, Mollie09 said:

For some people, it's purely about being with their spouse, and it just works out best to do that in the US. At the other end of the spectrum, for some people, it's purely about living in the US, and it just works out best that it's with a spouse.

We hear about those stories all the time of someone coming over on a K1 or even a CR1 and not adjusting, couples need to really talk and decide where it is best to reside.