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Hello everyone,

 

I have been scheduled for a N-400 interview next month while my I-751 is still pending (filed April 2017, or 2 years ago!). 

 

Although I don't mind waiting (I understand this process takes long for everyone), I am worried that if I show up for my N-400 interview without a resolution on my I-751, neither application will move forward. How can I ensure this will not be the case?

 

I want in the very least my I-751 application to move forward. How can I contact a USCIS/Field Office to explain my situation? I tried to do it over the phone, but all the Operator said is that the Agent will make a decision on the day of my N-400 interview. This seems odd since I'd hate to waste their time. There must be a proper course of action to avoid this.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Posted (edited)

This is common procedure. You will have a combo interview.  Both the I-751 and N-400 will be done at the same time.  Congratulations!!!!!

Edited by missileman

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted

Usually when you have a pending I-751 and you submit an application for N-400, they combine both applications and schedule you for an interview. The officer may discuss your RoC alone, your Naturalization alone...or he/she may talk about both....it is never the same procedure and each officer is different in their methods.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Brazil
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2 minutes ago, Amadia said:

Usually when you have a pending I-751 and you submit an application for N-400, they combine both applications and schedule you for an interview. The officer may discuss your RoC alone, your Naturalization alone...or he/she may talk about both....it is never the same procedure and each officer is different in their methods.

Hi Amadia, I guess I'm worried about that second scenario... Would discussing my naturalization alone help me in any way? In this case, it sounds to me like the Agent would just say, "Sorry, we need your RoC first. Expect a re-schedule letter in the email. Sorry again."  

 

I mean, am I wrong?

Posted
3 minutes ago, LeoFromBR said:

Hi Amadia, I guess I'm worried about that second scenario..

They know it is a combo interview.  Some of the questions are the same.   The evidence is the same.   

 

Relax and congrats.

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November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

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Posted
32 minutes ago, LeoFromBR said:

Hello everyone,

 

I have been scheduled for a N-400 interview next month while my I-751 is still pending (filed April 2017, or 2 years ago!). 

 

Although I don't mind waiting (I understand this process takes long for everyone), I am worried that if I show up for my N-400 interview without a resolution on my I-751, neither application will move forward. How can I ensure this will not be the case?

 

I want in the very least my I-751 application to move forward. How can I contact a USCIS/Field Office to explain my situation? I tried to do it over the phone, but all the Operator said is that the Agent will make a decision on the day of my N-400 interview. This seems odd since I'd hate to waste their time. There must be a proper course of action to avoid this.

 

Any thoughts?

 

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

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Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted
4 minutes ago, missileman said:

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@LeoFromBR......filling in your Timeline helps a GREAT deal so others can help you along the way ;) 

 

Thanks for the reminder @missileman :joy:

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BIOMETRICS WALK-IN: 18-DEC-2019
INTERVIEW SCHEDULED: 26-OCT-2020
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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Brazil
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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, missileman said:

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Let's see if this worked haha.

 

(I am at work... and don't have all the date details, but I added the main ones.)

 

EDIT: I created a timeline but it's not showing up as a signature... let me look into it...

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, LeoFromBR said:

Let's see if this worked haha.

 

(I am at work... and don't have all the date details, but I added the main ones.)

 

EDIT: I created a timeline but it's not showing up as a signature... let me look into it...

Thank you....Your timeline creation worked........the signature is located in account setting......thank you...the information you posted in your timeline is very helpful..

Edited by missileman

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted
36 minutes ago, LeoFromBR said:

Hi Amadia, I guess I'm worried about that second scenario... Would discussing my naturalization alone help me in any way? In this case, it sounds to me like the Agent would just say, "Sorry, we need your RoC first. Expect a re-schedule letter in the email. Sorry again."  

 

I mean, am I wrong?



You'll be fine.

It should be a combo interview, there are very few people who have had their I-751 interview after the N-400, but it impacted the I-751 interview in no way. Basically they just can't say approved or denied, until the I-751 has been approved or denied. It doesn't matter if it happens before or after the N-400 interview, as long as it happens at some point so they can adjudicate your N-400.

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Thank you all. Seems like the consensus is that I'm overthinking and I should just relax and go for it. In other words, no additional action needed.

 

I will prepare for both interviews and bring all the pertinent evidence. Again, thank you everyone.

Posted
12 hours ago, Ash.1101 said:



You'll be fine.

It should be a combo interview, there are very few people who have had their I-751 interview after the N-400, but it impacted the I-751 interview in no way. Basically they just can't say approved or denied, until the I-751 has been approved or denied. It doesn't matter if it happens before or after the N-400 interview, as long as it happens at some point so they can adjudicate your N-400.

Agree. SOMETIMES the decision on the N-400 is delayed because SOMETIMES the ROC is done later. The N-400 does force the issue and makes USCIS adjudicate the ROC, so either way, you move forward! Good luck.

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Posted
18 hours ago, LeoFromBR said:

Hello everyone,

 

I have been scheduled for a N-400 interview next month while my I-751 is still pending (filed April 2017, or 2 years ago!). 

 

Although I don't mind waiting (I understand this process takes long for everyone), I am worried that if I show up for my N-400 interview without a resolution on my I-751, neither application will move forward. How can I ensure this will not be the case?

 

I want in the very least my I-751 application to move forward. How can I contact a USCIS/Field Office to explain my situation? I tried to do it over the phone, but all the Operator said is that the Agent will make a decision on the day of my N-400 interview. This seems odd since I'd hate to waste their time. There must be a proper course of action to avoid this.

 

Any thoughts?

 

 

I want to share with you my wife's experience on her I 751/N400 journey. Just be aware and if ever this happens to you don't get stressed out like we did.  Originally she was set for an interview date of Feb 2019 just for N400.  Her I 751 at this point was already transferred back on Dec 2018 to Lee's Summit then to a new office per USCIS online updates.  She also got a notice letter about this.  We were thinking at that time our local USCIS office will be conducting a combination I 751/N400 interview.  However when we arrived and our turn was called (after 1 hour of waiting), the officer told us they have to reschedule her interview to another day, but within 90 days. They could not proceed with the N400 since the I 751 was pending.  The next time it would be I 751 first followed by N400.  I was specifically told to come with my wife for the I 751 portion. She further said two different officers will conduct the interview.  We left the building unhappy .  At this time due to delays we already experienced, we were not expecting them to reschedule the interviews within 90 days. . We were hoping the least they could have done was proceed with the N400 interview then wait for the I 751 to adjudicate before approving the N400.  I wasted a day off from work just to be sent home empty handed.

 

By mid March 2019, my wife got a call from the  local USCIS office that they are conducting her I 751 on April 15.  There was no mention of N400 even with the email letter they sent her.  When we received the official NOA for the interview it just said I 751 to be conducted at their AOS unit.  We were alarmed since we don't know what's going to happen now to the N400.  Will it be schedule several months later after the adjudication of  I 751 or will they conduct it same day? Or worse case scenario just get lost in limbo?  I wrote USCIS about the N400 but never got a response back.  A week prior to my wife's I 751 interview we got got NOA letters from USCIS: one letter stating they have cancelled the original interview for the N400 and one NOA for the new interview date of April 15, an hour after they conduct the I 751 .  On April 15 her interview was conducted by same officer for both I 751 and N400.  She passed both and now she has a schedule for oath taking. We're happy that this journey is over. 

 

I don't think our case was an isolated one.  On the same USCIS office ( San Jose) there were two other cases with the same issues.  Hopefully my wife's experience this will shed some light and help others. YMMV.  Good luck.

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, geff44 said:

I want to share with you my wife's experience on her I 751/N400 journey.

Thank you for sharing your experience...it can surely help out others who have these stressful thoughts of the immigration process with combo interviews for I-751/N400.

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CONDITIONAL GREEN CARDS RECEIVED: 23-SEP-2016
 
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BIOMETRICS WALK-IN: 18-DEC-2019
INTERVIEW SCHEDULED: 26-OCT-2020
APPROVED/SAME DAY OATH CEREMONY: 26-OCT-2020
 
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Posted
2 hours ago, geff44 said:

 

I want to share with you my wife's experience on her I 751/N400 journey. Just be aware and if ever this happens to you don't get stressed out like we did.  Originally she was set for an interview date of Feb 2019 just for N400.  Her I 751 at this point was already transferred back on Dec 2018 to Lee's Summit then to a new office per USCIS online updates.  She also got a notice letter about this.  We were thinking at that time our local USCIS office will be conducting a combination I 751/N400 interview.  However when we arrived and our turn was called (after 1 hour of waiting), the officer told us they have to reschedule her interview to another day, but within 90 days. They could not proceed with the N400 since the I 751 was pending.  The next time it would be I 751 first followed by N400.  I was specifically told to come with my wife for the I 751 portion. She further said two different officers will conduct the interview.  We left the building unhappy .  At this time due to delays we already experienced, we were not expecting them to reschedule the interviews within 90 days. . We were hoping the least they could have done was proceed with the N400 interview then wait for the I 751 to adjudicate before approving the N400.  I wasted a day off from work just to be sent home empty handed.

 

By mid March 2019, my wife got a call from the  local USCIS office that they are conducting her I 751 on April 15.  There was no mention of N400 even with the email letter they sent her.  When we received the official NOA for the interview it just said I 751 to be conducted at their AOS unit.  We were alarmed since we don't know what's going to happen now to the N400.  Will it be schedule several months later after the adjudication of  I 751 or will they conduct it same day? Or worse case scenario just get lost in limbo?  I wrote USCIS about the N400 but never got a response back.  A week prior to my wife's I 751 interview we got got NOA letters from USCIS: one letter stating they have cancelled the original interview for the N400 and one NOA for the new interview date of April 15, an hour after they conduct the I 751 .  On April 15 her interview was conducted by same officer for both I 751 and N400.  She passed both and now she has a schedule for oath taking. We're happy that this journey is over. 

 

I don't think our case was an isolated one.  On the same USCIS office ( San Jose) there were two other cases with the same issues.  Hopefully my wife's experience this will shed some light and help others. YMMV.  Good luck.

 

 

Hi geff44,

 

Thank you for sharing your experience. Your "wasted day" is essentially what I would like to avoid. It seems like it would be on USCIS's best interest if there was a mechanism to "remind" them that both applications are in their possession and both should be going to the same office for the purposes of the interview.

 

I mean, the system is already so slow because of the sheer amount of applications... It would be nice to avoid these "clerical slip-ups", but if the majority advocate calm and patience, then I shall follow those suggestions. 

 

Having said that, would it make sense for me to contact USCIS solely based on the fact that my I-751 is outside normal processing time? (The last update on my I-751 was a transfer to Lee's Summit in December 2018).

 
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