Previous Visa Denials?

[JFH 12,191]

3 hours ago, mogiftney said:

 

 

She was confused about the terms of an ESTA. She used it twice before to stay in the US with me for a month each time, and renewed her passport when she came back the second time. She thought she was only allowed to stay for 90 days out of a one year period rather than 90 in 90 out, and wanted more time with me than three months a year. Now she cannot get an ESTA with the previous visa denials and such, that’s completely not doable.

So is she also unemployed? 

[bandito 24]

33 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Not a problem at all. The only time a B2 or student visa denial could jeopardize a K1 or a CR/IR visa is if the beneficiary lied on the Tourist/Student visa application.  We have seen cases in the past where people from different countries are told to list as being married or have X amount of children in order to show that they "have sufficient ties to their country". So then it comes back to bite them in the butt later. 

good info. thanks! (commenting from partners account as i have reached the post limit for today)

[bandito 24]

18 minutes ago, JFH said:

So is she also unemployed? 

at the moment yes, which is another reason why she wanted to study. theres a lot of competition for jobs in her area, but she has the proper qualitications to get a basic job. (reached the post limit so replying from my partners account)

Edited April 17, 2019 by bandito

[JFH 12,191]

33 minutes ago, bandito said:

at the moment yes, which is another reason why she wanted to study. 

And another reason for being denied the B-2. 

[clw654321 159]

6 hours ago, mogiftney said:

not to bother coming back to reapply

What did they mean by this? Not to reapply for the previous visas or any other visas??

[bandito 24]

1 hour ago, clw654321 said:

What did they mean by this? Not to reapply for the previous visas or any other visas??

I'm assuming it was for the student visa, as it was in response to my partner asking, "What if I change my circumstances?"

[clw654321 159]

1 hour ago, bandito said:

I'm assuming it was for the student visa, as it was in response to my partner asking, "What if I change my circumstances?"

Only makes me wonder if Immigration meant don’t bother for any visa again or if it was the specific ones... Just making sure the fiancé did not lie or immigration didn’t suspect fraud... Maybe I was reading it wrong though...

[bandito 24]

Just now, clw654321 said:

Only makes me wonder if Immigration meant don’t bother for any visa again or if it was the specific ones... Just making sure the fiancé did not lie or immigration didn’t suspect fraud... Maybe I was reading it wrong though...

my fiance wouldnt lie, and i dont think they suspected fraud. She wanted to know if there was anything she could show them then, or anything she could bring next time and book a second appointment to get her student visa. they said if it were me i wouldnt come back. i dont think it was in response to all visas, and my fiance doesnt seem to think so either.

[HP+IC 292]

Her visa applications are very recent, why not try to extract her old DS-160's and be sure about what she filed there? If it is correct, she would hardly verbally represent something contradicting under oath, as she should have been both times. 

[JFH 12,191]

3 minutes ago, bandito said:

my fiance wouldnt lie, and i dont think they suspected fraud. She wanted to know if there was anything she could show them then, or anything she could bring next time and book a second appointment to get her student visa. they said if it were me i wouldnt come back. i dont think it was in response to all visas, and my fiance doesnt seem to think so either.

You are probably right. They didn’t buy her story that she desperately wanted to take this particular course at the community college and told her so. Come on, it wasn’t a scholarship for Harvard. Whatever course it was, if it was a community college level course it’s going to be available in the UK. Who goes half-way round the world for an entry level study programme?

 

That said, she has not been found to be inadmissible so this will not affect a K-1 or CR-1 visa application. 

[bandito 24]

4 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

Her visa applications are very recent, why not try to extract her old DS-160's and be sure about what she filed there? If it is correct, she would hardly verbally represent something contradicting under oath, as she should have been both times. 

i am confused about the wording here. I looked over her applications before she submitted them, I know she isn't lying

[HP+IC 292]

Just now, bandito said:

i am confused about the wording here. I looked over her applications before she submitted them, I know she isn't lying

Then at least you may rest assured about her not making 'material misrepresentation' which could have effect on further visas. Making it simple, you have written proof of what she's filed before and the conclusion is well made by JFH above

[aaron2020 11,651]

5 minutes ago, JFH said:

You are probably right. They didn’t buy her story that she desperately wanted to take this particular course at the community college and told her so. Come on, it wasn’t a scholarship for Harvard. Whatever course it was, if it was a community college level course it’s going to be available in the UK. Who goes half-way round the world for an entry level study programme?

 

That said, she has not been found to be inadmissible so this will not affect a K-1 or CR-1 visa application. 

Lots of people go half-way around the world to attend community colleges.  Go to any community college and you will find an international student office.  

Most California community colleges allows for automatic transfers to 4 years public schools - a UC or a SU.  Tuition at a community college is about $10,000 while a 4 years school is about $40,000.  Why spend $80,000 for general education courses when you can spend $20,000 at a community college and then transfer. 

 

[JFH 12,191]

1 minute ago, aaron2020 said:

Lots of people go half-way around the world to attend community colleges.  Go to any community college and you will find an international student office.  

Most California community colleges allows for automatic transfers to 4 years public schools - a UC or a SU.  Tuition at a community college is about $10,000 while a 4 years school is about $40,000.  Why spend $80,000 for general education courses when you can spend $20,000 at a community college and then transfer. 

 

Yep I get that if the education offerings are poor in the home country. But this person is from the UK. Whatever is offered at community college here would be available in Europe somewhere for a much lower cost. And without the need for a visa. 

 

He has already pretty much confirmed that she just wanted to be with him and it was an attempt to stay longer. She had no real intention of studying because now she’s not interested in it.  

[aaron2020 11,651]

7 minutes ago, JFH said:

Yep I get that if the education offerings are poor in the home country. But this person is from the UK. Whatever is offered at community college here would be available in Europe somewhere for a much lower cost. And without the need for a visa. 

 

He has already pretty much confirmed that she just wanted to be with him and it was an attempt to stay longer. She had no real intention of studying because now she’s not interested in it.  

Plenty of international students from Europe attend community colleges here in California.   Go to any community college.  It appears that you are basing your posts on your assumptions and haven't really gone to any of these colleges to look around their international student offices.   Lots of Europeans.  French.  German.  Italian.  Swedish.  Swiss.  English.  Kids from all over the world.  

Educational offerings don't have to be poor in their home country.  This isn't a medical visitor visa.  Educational offerings in the home country has absolutely nothing to do with getting a student visa.  If it was, then it would be impossible to get a student visa if a person is from a country with a good education system - which we know is not true because we get international students from every country in the world.    

Edited April 17, 2019 by aaron2020