The case returned to Washington

[Hobidyali 267]

23 minutes ago, missileman said:

You don't think so?   I seriously doubt that 1 or 2 months of living together would make much difference in the eyes of the embassy.....a few years would be much more convincing.......same religion?  How many years age difference?  

But wouldn't the step of marrying further show the authenticity of a relationship? Can a CR1 be denied?

 

[Crazy Cat 41,857]

Just now, Hobidyali said:

But wouldn't the step of marrying further show the authenticity of a relationship? Can a CR1 be denied?

 

The act of marriage, itself, does not prove the authenticity of a relationship......there are countless cases here on VJ which prove that..........yes, a CR-1 can be denied.......

[Hobidyali 267]

1 minute ago, missileman said:

The act of marriage, itself, does not prove the authenticity of a relationship......there are countless cases here on VJ which prove that..........yes, a CR-1 can be denied.......

I always thought that if someone really loved the other, why put themselves through all of that if it's not authentic but I guess you are right.

[payxibka 10,045]

Just now, Hobidyali said:

I always thought that if someone really loved the other, why put themselves through all of that if it's not authentic but I guess you are right.

Dont forget a few are in love with the lure of the green card and will do just about anything to get it.  

[Hobidyali 267]

4 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Dont forget a few are in love with the lure of the green card and will do just about anything to get it.  

Well yes, this is true, but I just feel like waiting years and years would definitely be a turn off in that sort of situation but I guess you are right.

[Crazy Cat 41,857]

I am not putting the current 

7 minutes ago, Hobidyali said:

I always thought that if someone really loved the other, why put themselves through all of that if it's not authentic but I guess you are right.

I am certainly not putting the OP or fiance in this category, but there are plenty of con men out there..........

[Hobidyali 267]

1 minute ago, missileman said:

I am not putting the current 

I am certainly not putting the OP or fiance in this category, but there are plenty of con men out there..........

This is true

[Hobidyali 267]

OP, sorry that you are going thru this, contrary to the image that I have set with my previous posts, I am all for love so long as it is genuine, I truly feel sad for you and your fiance for this situation.  

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

32 minutes ago, Hobidyali said:

But wouldn't the step of marrying further show the authenticity of a relationship? Can a CR1 be denied?

 

Yes CR1 can be denied / our 1st CR1 denied in 2011 and i had 3 trips of 1 month,  2 months (to marry) and a 3 month for Ramadan trip already 

that was the CR1 i appealed and won / and i was there outside the embassy for this interview and went to the window to talk to someone just after Adil came out.   I was actually told that the packet had already gone back to the US which could not have been possible

 

To the OP

This K1 had only a 2 week visit together and that is the way Casa looks at it   / as a 2 week vacation / when the customs don't allow dating it is pretty hard to get to know a person in 2 weeks/  when the religions are different ,  it is pretty hard to see and understand what that means in daily life to a Muslim

when the ages are a big difference,  there is a huge difference in types of music,  movies,  style of clothing ,  and so many other things that can interfer later in a solid relationship (so don't say age is just a number / it is a lot more)

For a successful interview These are things you will need to overcome Now for a new interview and later for a successful marriage so don't take any of the above lightly.

 

Adil and I have a big age gap/  we are married now 9 years/  we have worked on all these things but it has helped that i converted to islam before meeting him.  YOur gf does not have to convert but you will need to show in an  interview that she understands your religion and you understand hers.

 

You 2 need to get your act together (just a phrase) and do what is needed to continue this relationship.  i had 5 trips all over a month before being approved.  

to avoid the dreaded ds5535 make your gf the prioity / be careful of friendships,   facebook postings,   what you watch on youtube, and who u talk to on every phone you are able to use

again "don't take this lightly"  

Be serious

Be faithful

and go for the marraige and hopefully fulfill a good life in the USA

Edited April 17, 2019 by adil-rafa

[Issampap 6]

16 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

Yes CR1 can be denied / our 1st CR1 denied in 2011 and i had 3 trips of 1 month,  2 months (to marry) and a 3 month for Ramadan trip already 

that was the CR1 i appealed and won / and i was there outside the embassy for this interview and went to the window to talk to someone just after Adil came out.   I was actually told that the packet had already gone back to the US which could not have been possible

 

To the OP

This K1 had only a 2 week visit together and that is the way Casa looks at it   / as a 2 week vacation / when the customs don't allow dating it is pretty hard to get to know a person in 2 weeks/  when the religions are different ,  it is pretty hard to see and understand what that means in daily life to a Muslim

when the ages are a big difference,  there is a huge difference in types of music,  movies,  style of clothing ,  and so many other things that can interfer later in a solid relationship (so don't say age is just a number / it is a lot more)

For a successful interview These are things you will need to overcome Now for a new interview and later for a successful marriage so don't take any of the above lightly.

 

Adil and I have a big age gap/  we are married now 9 years/  we have worked on all these things but it has helped that i converted to islam before meeting him.  YOur gf does not have to convert but you will need to show in an  interview that she understands your religion and you understand hers.

 

You 2 need to get your act together (just a phrase) and do what is needed to continue this relationship.  i had 5 trips all over a month before being approved.  

to avoid the dreaded ds5535 make your gf the prioity / be careful of friendships,   facebook postings,   what you watch on youtube, and who u talk to on every phone you are able to use

again "don't take this lightly"  

Be serious

Be faithful

and go for the marraige and hopefully fulfill a good life in the USA

Thank you 

[Crazy Cat 41,857]

3 minutes ago, Issampap said:

Thank you 

What is the age difference?  Same religion?

[Khallaf 650]

4 minutes ago, Issampap said:

Thank you 

if there is a large age gap one thing to over come this is time spent together, multi trips there for longer periods of time.

[kris&me 572]

53 minutes ago, Hobidyali said:

But wouldn't the step of marrying further show the authenticity of a relationship? Can a CR1 be denied?

 

usually it does 

but think like a con man or scammer.   looking for vulerable .  looking for someone in a dating site or on facebook who is lonely or has low self esteem

and the USC ,  if lonely,   is looking for love and sometimes blinded 

and i have also seen and talked to foreigners that were scammed by a USC  .   talking to someone who said they were serious and coming to meet them and just in this for some kind of sick game  .  one girl sent a "fake ticket "  showing a flight direct from nashville to Casa (there is not such flight)    there was no flight number , no gate number no seat number.   all the things that should have been on a boarding pass (as we no longer get tickets ) 

both parties can be used poorly 

the CO must also protect the foreigner and America

probably not that case here but always the CO has to analyse, protect,  and make a decision

 

Based on just your 2 weeks together,   the CO determined your time together was not enough to show the relationship "could "  work .   not necessarily that the relationship is not real but that your age,  religion and both cultures would hamper a good marriage in the US

[Kowatti 189]

3 hours ago, Issampap said:

I just get this news about 30 m ago , she don't know yet , no 

I am so very sorry.  Try to find out why you were denied.  This will help later if you decide to file for a spousal visa.  Hang in there.

[dentsflogged 352]

1 hour ago, Hobidyali said:

But wouldn't the step of marrying further show the authenticity of a relationship? Can a CR1 be denied?

 

Short answer: Yes. 

 

Long answer: Yes, because the act of getting married proves nothing except your willingness to stand still for 20 minutes and sign paperwork.  Building a life with your new spouse by living in the same place for an extended period of time, sharing a living space, joining your lives together socially, financially and culturally DOES prove something.