Officials consider new penalty for visa overstays

[The_Empyrean 733]

1. Adjustments from B2 or ESTA should be completely banned. I-130, i-129f should be the only options.

2. Insufficient/Unfinished petition submissions should be denied at receive with a month cool-down period (not for missing tick on something, but major documents missing) for taking up the line. 

3. DV visa numbers should be decreased by half at least.

4. Green Card holders shouldn't be able to bring their family here, except immediate (spouse and/or children). Only USC should be entitled for that.

5. There should be something done with "anchor kids".

6. High Fraud country immigrants should have additional screenings, and higher standards to go through. (K-1 instead 2 years meeting once before filling, at least twice last year)

7. High Fraud countries shouldn't have K-1's as an option. Period. 

8. Asylums should be handled separately from USCIS, using tax payers money, rather than our. Filers. Who pay fee's. If liberals, or republicans think it's still a great idea to let them in, paying for asylum seekers should convince them otherwise.

9. There shouldn't be a "trial" for overstays or illegals. You broke the law, you're out with according bar to the overstay with no contest. It's a waste of money to put everyone on trial. Fix your #######, get appropriate visa and come back.

 

there are a lot more issues with our immigration laws than just the wall. 

[treppenwitz 78]

42 minutes ago, The_Empyrean said:

Green Card holders shouldn't be able to bring their family here, except immediate (spouse and/or children). Only USC should be entitled for that.

To clarify: keep F2A but eliminate F2B? https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2019/visa-bulletin-for-may-2019.html

F2A: Spouses and Children* of Permanent Residents

*Under the CSPA age of 21 and unmarried at POE

F2B: Unmarried Sons and Daughters (21 years of age or older) of Permanent Residents

 

All other current family-based immigrant visas are for relatives of US citizens. E.g. no categories currently exist for parents, married children, etc. of Permanent Residents.

Edited April 17, 2019 by treppenwitz

[The_Empyrean 733]

1 minute ago, treppenwitz said:

To clarify: keep F2A but eliminate F2B? https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2019/visa-bulletin-for-may-2019.html

F2A: Spouses and Children* of Permanent Residents

*Under the CSPA age of 21 and unmarried at POE

F2B: Unmarried Sons and Daughters (21 years of age or older) of Permanent Residents

 

All other current family-based immigrant visas are for relatives of US citizens. I.e. there is no category for parents, married children, etc. of Permanent Residents.

i'd say yes. 21 or older shouldnt be an option. Just F2A. 

[PolskaKielbasia 67]

What's with the B2/ESTA AOS spam hate? The article mentions absolutely nothing about that. In fact it talks very little about visa overstays in general (click bait title?).

[The_Empyrean 733]

2 minutes ago, PolskaKielbasia said:

What's with the B2/ESTA AOS spam hate? The article mentions absolutely nothing about that. In fact it talks very little about visa overstays in general (click bait title?).

What's with the hate?

 

B2/ESTA AoS is being abused. A lot. It shouldn't be possible in the first place.

Like people in high fraud countries suffer for fraudsters' actions with higher obstacles to get visas, same should be applied to AoS from B2/ESTA. And what's the problem with NOT WANTING to go back where you came from and come on a proper visa, like everyone is suppose to?

I'm an immigrant myself, along with my wife and parents. But it still grinds my gears. 

[treppenwitz 78]

11 minutes ago, The_Empyrean said:

i'd say yes. 21 or older shouldnt be an option. Just F2A. 

Thanks for clarifying. In your opinion, should derivative benefits be allowed? https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/derivative-status-for-family-members-immigrating-aliens.html I see that currently incentivizes some categories to stay unmarried:

F1: Unmarried Sons and Daughters of U.S. Citizens. Way faster process for the F1 immigrant and the derivative children then the F3 process. If they have a partner they can wait until the F1 is an LPR and then marry abroad and wait the F2A process.

F2A or F2B: No category exists for married children of LPR so strong incentive to stay unmarried. If F2A or F2B have children they can be derivatives. If they have a partner they can wait until the F2A or F2B is an LPR and then marry abroad and wait the F2A process.

 

That is a massive loophole in my opinion.

[NYCruiser 423]

23 hours ago, Russ&Caro said:

How about working in America on a tourist visa, ala Melania Trump? Aren't we worried about that, too?

She did nothing of the kind and now is that pertinent to this discussion

[The_Empyrean 733]

1 minute ago, treppenwitz said:

Thanks for clarifying. In your opinion, should derivative benefits be allowed? https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/derivative-status-for-family-members-immigrating-aliens.html I see that currently incentivizes some categories to stay unmarried:

F1: Unmarried Sons and Daughters of U.S. Citizens. Way faster process for the F1 immigrant and the derivative children then the F3 process. If they have a partner they can wait until the F1 is an LPR and then marry abroad and wait the F2A process.

F2A or F2B: No category exists for married children of LPR so strong incentive to stay unmarried. If F2A or F2B have children they can be derivatives. If they have a partner they can wait until the F2A or F2B is an LPR and then marry abroad and wait the F2A process.

 

That is a massive loophole in my opinion.

USC should be allowed to petition their Family. Not 35 year old, married with a triplet. That's just stupid.

For Children and Brothers and Sisters i think there should be an age ceiling. 0-21 for F1. 21-28 for F2. Anything beyond that shouldn't be even considered. 

LPR shouldnt have any chances to get ANYONE here. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

24 minutes ago, PolskaKielbasia said:

What's with the B2/ESTA AOS spam hate? The article mentions absolutely nothing about that. In fact it talks very little about visa overstays in general (click bait title?).

Because the B2/ESTA is being abused as if it is a legitimate way to come here and adjust status. I really think that at least half of the people that AOS from a B2/ESTA are frauds that planned on doing it the entire time because they didn't want to have to wait or go through the legitimate process to get a K1 or CR1 visa. If you spend any amount of time here in VJ you always see these types of people that are wanting a "fast and easy way to bring their SO over to the USA" then become irate and disillusioned when they see that there is a legitimate process to do it and takes longer than what they want. Then a couple months later you see the same people asking questions about AOS because their spouse came here on a tourist visa and "all of a sudden they got married". 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

3 minutes ago, The_Empyrean said:

USC should be allowed to petition their Family. Not 35 year old, married with a triplet. That's just stupid.

For Children and Brothers and Sisters i think there should be an age ceiling. 0-21 for F1. 21-28 for F2. Anything beyond that shouldn't be even considered. 

LPR shouldnt have any chances to get ANYONE here. 

I can agree with this as well because especially for people from India, Mexico, or the Philippines the wait is over 20 years to bring a sister/brother here right now. So a 35 year old person who petitions for their immediate family to come here then that means when that person gets here they are already over 50 maybe even pushing 60 years old. Then that leads into other things the high cost of health insurance. 

[arken 4,197]

24 minutes ago, The_Empyrean said:

What's with the hate?

 

B2/ESTA AoS is being abused. A lot. It shouldn't be possible in the first place.

 

3 minutes ago, The_Empyrean said:

USC should be allowed to petition their Family. Not 35 year old, married with a triplet. That's just stupid.

For Children and Brothers and Sisters i think there should be an age ceiling. 0-21 for F1. 21-28 for F2. Anything beyond that shouldn't be even considered. 

LPR shouldnt have any chances to get ANYONE here. 

All AOS abuse you mentioned are done by the USCs and their spouse/family and yet you are saying USC should be allowed to petition their Family and LPR should’t be allowed to bring anyone!!! I completely disagree. At least LPRs’ spouse/family don’t abuse the AOS system. 

[The_Empyrean 733]

1 minute ago, arken said:

 

All AOS abuse you mentioned are done by the USCs and their spouse/family and yet you are saying USC should be allowed to petition their Family and LPR should’t be allowed to bring anyone!!! I completely disagree. At least LPRs’ spouse/family don’t abuse the AOS system. 

let me clarify for you. if you cant be bothered to read all of my responses.

USC should and able to bring family here. Why LPR's should be able to? Give me a reason? They can't even vote. All they got is a permit for THEMSELVES to live in USA. What does THAT have to do with family besides Spouse and children under 21? NOTHING.

Those USC's got their green cards through Anchor kids. and the cycle continues. If we fix the anchor kid problem, then there will be less things to process in the first place, and less USC who derived from Green cards got by anchor kids. See the pattern? THAT'S the problem. 

Read another thread who's hot right now, what a MIL is trying to do. To extend her B2 stay, while waiting her daughter to become USC to AOS, while in general abusing the original USC. Why is this even a thing? Because people are blindsided by all "ABUSE, HUMAN RIGHTS, ANIMALS CARE" people, especially celebrities. Its plain stupidity and ignorance of real facts. 

[JC&BS 75]

19 minutes ago, The_Empyrean said:

Those USC's got their green cards through Anchor kids. and the cycle continues. If we fix the anchor kid problem, then there will be less things to process in the first place, and less USC who derived from Green cards got by anchor kids. See the pattern? THAT'S the problem. 

Read another thread who's hot right now, what a MIL is trying to do. To extend her B2 stay, while waiting her daughter to become USC to AOS, while in general abusing the original USC. Why is this even a thing? Because people are blindsided by all "ABUSE, HUMAN RIGHTS, ANIMALS CARE" people, especially celebrities. Its plain stupidity and ignorance of real facts. 

What's an anchor kid? I assume it means someone born in US then return to home country only to later relocate to US and file for family. Is that right?

[arken 4,197]

7 minutes ago, The_Empyrean said:

let me clarify for you. if you cant be bothered to read all of my responses.

USC should and able to bring family here. Why LPR's should be able to? Give me a reason? They can't even vote. All they got is a permit for THEMSELVES to live in USA. What does THAT have to do with family besides Spouse and children under 21? NOTHING.

Those USC's got their green cards through Anchor kids. and the cycle continues. If we fix the anchor kid problem, then there will be less things to process in the first place, and less USC who derived from Green cards got by anchor kids. See the pattern? THAT'S the problem. 

Read another thread who's hot right now, what a MIL is trying to do. To extend her B2 stay, while waiting her daughter to become USC to AOS, while in general abusing the original USC. Why is this even a thing? Because people are blindsided by all "ABUSE, HUMAN RIGHTS, ANIMALS CARE" people, especially celebrities. Its plain stupidity and ignorance of real facts. 

Your clarification has only one conclusion. Everything starts with a USC. So USC is the problem not an LPR. 

 

I am well aware of that MIL thread. That too started with the USC. Even if the wife is planning to do what u said, extending her mother’s status till she can do AOS after becoming a USC, it’s a USC matter again. 

 

This sort of immigration problem is broad. My only question is how’s not allowing LPRs family help solve it if you keeping allowing USCs petition for their family? 

[Boiler 45,525]

Nope, child of illegals born in the US whose presence is used as a reason not to deport.