Very VERY bad K1 situation

[Boiler 45,566]

More of an issue when it impacts others.

[Shiran 1,134]

2 hours ago, SJordanS said:

she still hasnt gained access on VJ.

It is a bit silly, but since she uses gmail, check that verification e-mail do not get automatically hidden under "Social" or "Forums" category. 

[payxibka 10,045]

Just now, Shiran said:

It is a bit silly, but since she uses gmail, check that verification e-mail do not get automatically hidden under "Social" or "Forums" category. 

Even been known to be found in "spam"

[SJordanS 343]

15 hours ago, Hobidyali said:

That's exactly why it's frustrating, ofcourse I don't like seeing anyone hurt but then also trickles down to the other ones who interview after at these consulates.

Thank you for mentioning this. This is exactly my fear and frustration. My fiance is also in Jordan and we havent received NOA2. What kind of scrutiny will we face because of this?! Very unfair. 

Edited April 12, 2019 by Penguin_ie
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[SJordanS 343]

2 hours ago, celie&joseph said:

 

Excellent points!! I wish there was a pinned thread somewhere with warning signs. I've been following this thread for a bit and I hope Sarah knows that, although her situation is painful and heartbreaking, she's also an inspiration. Too many people find out they've been used too late because they weren't able to read or see the warning signs.

Thank you so much for commenting about this. She will help others. She agreed that once she has access she will update her timeline, because she wants to help us all with processing, then make notes and comments. I showed her last night how to navigate the site as it took me a while. 

[SJordanS 343]

2 hours ago, Hobidyali said:

Honestly, I am glad she called her, cause had she hadn't , this would have never been known. The dude needs to stay in Lebanon and not get out ever again, what a piece of work! 

best and worst mistake. 

2 hours ago, adil-rafa said:

agree at least some family members

some want so much for a better life 

 

but i am truly sorry that your friend is heartbroken in this manner

 

Actually in Islam he was not taking a 2nd wife / he intended to  divorce and remarry the new one

marrying more than one according to the Quran is to pick the 2nd that is not under the protection of a man thus providing for her

and he is to treat both the same and be able to financially support both

this clearly was not his intent so he is not only a louse but not a good muslim

Agreed with you on this. I explained this to her last night.

[Hobidyali 267]

 

 

Edited April 11, 2019 by Hobidyali

[SJordanS 343]

2 hours ago, celie&joseph said:

Where did it say he's from Lebanon? Not to say it doesn't happen there also lol most MENA countries have their bad bunch... but I didn't read where it said he was from there.

He's from Jordan, Palestinian decent born and raised there is what she said.

[SJordanS 343]

1 hour ago, Hobidyali said:

I wish I could do a warning signs list, hmmm, maybe I will , just from the whammies I've read on here and outside of rhis website for 2 years .😂should i? @Mezyan what do you think lol

I think its long overdue. Would you create one and we can all contribute to it? There were more red flags she is remembering them throughout the day and I will share hers as well as another woman I met several years ago who went through hell after her husband arrived. I remember her story well. I think we need it. 

[Hobidyali 267]

3 minutes ago, SJordanS said:

I think its long overdue. Would you create one and we can all contribute to it? There were more red flags she is remembering them throughout the day and I will share hers as well as another woman I met several years ago who went through hell after her husband arrived. I remember her story well. I think we need it. 

I just did it , here it is 

 

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/703970-signs-of-fraud-for-the-blindly-in-love/?tab=comments#comment-9664197

[SJordanS 343]

5 minutes ago, Hobidyali said:

I just did it , here it is 

 

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/703970-signs-of-fraud-for-the-blindly-in-love/?tab=comments#comment-9664197

LOVE IT. Ignore the ugly comments. I just posted there. 

[SJordanS 343]

1 hour ago, payxibka said:

Even been known to be found in "spam"

she checked spam. then she tried with her yahoo email and still nothing she said. I went through the same thing when I joined. It took over a week to finally be in after multiple attempts and emails sent. 

[SJordanS 343]

For those of you who have emailed and wondering how I met Sarah and how we both have K1 petitions for Jordan, I met her over a year ago in a Facebook K1 Visa group. She and I were like many others gathering information, reading, etc.. She asked about any Jordan embassy members and I told her I was one of those. We became great friends outside of facebook. 

Edited April 11, 2019 by SJordanS
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[Ola&Adunni 51]

3 hours ago, SJordanS said:

OK GUYS. Here is the update. Mind you Ive had only 1 hour sleep throughout the night. She has had NONE for days. But I am invested in making sure Sarah and all the future Sarahs gets their rights as this could be happening now to a VJ member or a future member. Also, information on how the Embassy will handle the cancellation should be posted here as this was an unusual event. There will be more information on the cancellation in the week to come. For now there is a hold or a freeze on the Visa issuance. She said its not updated on the web just should AP. Normal but that will change. The petitioner cancelled the VISA, not the petition, claiming FRAUD only AFTER the CO at the Embassy approved the petition based on a BONAFIDE relationship and thorough interview. Thats where it gets tricky. So she received a response from the Embassy but prior to that she contacted an office in Amman located across the street from the Embassy and got in touch with the attorney there for help to contact the embassy and what can be done. They are an Immigration and Translation office that originally helped her and her fiance with the necessary documents after NVC received the case. Basically they are set up to help people with visitor visas, K1 and I130, etc petitions, translate documents, etc. So she got a hold of the attorney there, told him the entire story. He has seen a few cases like this before however this was different as she is cancelling after the approval due to fraud. Some cancel after the visa approval due to a breakup but this is fraud. So he explained to me and her it would trigger an investigation since the Consulate Officers job is to approve petitions based on documents (no issues there), proof of bonafide relationship (submitted everything there and it was enough I guess) and be able to conduct the interview, etc. However the CO could not have known he had these plans. He isnt the first or the last. He was able to collect more information by contacting the Embassy himself and once he did they contacted her. She emailed a hand written and signed statement, copy of her passport and few other things they needed. They will contact her soon and Visa is on hold under they contact her for futher information. That attorney said most definitely it will be cancelled and she need not worry and he will ultimately receive a ban but is unsure what ruling they will make on that. He's 10 years at the most so far. She is relieved in some way though. 

This evening she will be speaking to her now ex-fiance. Of course Ill be here for that. 

 

Lets talk Red Flags...I had her think carefully on any red flags she may have ignored or picked up. Here are some from the tiny to the obvious.

 

1.  Seeing him "online" on whats app after midnight Jordan time for extended periods of times. She would be texting him and waiting for him to reply and would get no response. If it were his buddy like he said, as most guys can agree, they usually dont text their buddies for over 30 minutes after midnight on a work night several nights a week. Then eventually reply and say you werent on or didnt see the replies or my net is weak.

 

2. Wanting to get engaged or married in a very short time. Less than 6 weeks of chatting and video for him to know he wants to spend the rest of his life with you im sorry but that is a red flag.

 

3. While in his presence he gets texts and wants to respond away from you even if its in a language you cant read. taking calls away from you. not posting pics of you and him on his social network pages or making a new facebook for the both of you is a red flag as it deters you from wondering why he wont add you to his own facebook.

 

4. While in his presence where he should be so excited happy every second of the time he is with you he mentally drifts off and gets into fixed stares and looks sad several times throughout the day. When asked, oh nothing just thinking about my job but then wants a bit of space from you physically. Yeah ok...sure...your job.

 

5. His middle eastern parents are WAY TOO HAPPY for the both of you and dont even ask about your family or your upbringing or care to be too invested in your past or your life. Just pump up their son to be the best. 

 

Im sure there are more but these are the ones she can recall. 

 

Im  off to work myself and when I get back she will make the call to the loser who will be asleep by then but Im sure will jump up to answer her call as he's been very concerned about her and has been waiting to hear from her. I....cant....effen....wait. 

It's is sad ...I think the awareness should be raised on every immigration platform for the gullible to see. YOU dropped some pointers ..I mean no matter the circumstance surrounding long distance relationship ..I believe reality can be put to check..If you truly are in love and want to spend the rest of your life with someone ..there are signs and actions one would take .. 

**My own 1st Pointer is SOCIAL MEDIA..if your fiance/Fiancee wouldn't post updates of your relationship for the world to see ..then that's one huge red flag.

**When you visit your supposed Fiance/Fiance ..no passwords on phones ..No strange calls ..I mean your beneficiary should be excited to introduce you to everyone .There should be no excuses for privacy in your relationship ...I think your visit should be an exciting moment. 

 

**You should visit his church ..visit existing structure of his/her life ..not some new structure they creating...Ask questions...don't be blinded .

 

**Another big pointer = what's the financial state of your beneficiary ..The beneficiary has live all his/her life ...doing what? What has been his/her personal growth ? DOES he/her have a (TIE )to his/her country? If not you probably a GET AWAY.

**You should both push for the growth of the relationship...I rest my case.

 

Let all love be true love and nothing but a genuine love..God bless.

[Hobidyali 267]

30 minutes ago, Ola&Adunni said:

It's is sad ...I think the awareness should be raised on every immigration platform for the gullible to see. YOU dropped some pointers ..I mean no matter the circumstance surrounding long distance relationship ..I believe reality can be put to check..If you truly are in love and want to spend the rest of your life with someone ..there are signs and actions one would take .. 

**My own 1st Pointer is SOCIAL MEDIA..if your fiance/Fiancee wouldn't post updates of your relationship for the world to see ..then that's one huge red flag.

**When you visit your supposed Fiance/Fiance ..no passwords on phones ..No strange calls ..I mean your beneficiary should be excited to introduce you to everyone .There should be no excuses for privacy in your relationship ...I think your visit should be an exciting moment. 

 

**You should visit his church ..visit existing structure of his/her life ..not some new structure they creating...Ask questions...don't be blinded .

 

**Another big pointer = what's the financial state of your beneficiary ..The beneficiary has live all his/her life ...doing what? What has been his/her personal growth ? DOES he/her have a (TIE )to his/her country? If not you probably a GET AWAY.

**You should both push for the growth of the relationship...I rest my case.

 

Let all love be true love and nothing but a genuine love..God bless.

True!