Study question

[dza 46]

Hello everyone, 

 

I hope someone can answer my question. I am a little confused about what exam test to prepare for. English is my second language, I am living now in the U.S, I already have a bachelor degree from my country, and what I need to know if I am thinking to change career and study here in the U.S what test should I prepare for admission, will it be TOEFL or SAT?

 

thanks!

[arken 4,197]

TOEFL- for sure as most schools (if not all) mandate people from non native English speaking countries to have TOEFL score. 

 

SAT- Even students from US take this exam coz this is a measure of one’s strength in various categories specially if you want to go to good schools. There are colleges where you need certain SAT score just to be even considered for admission while some don’t require at all. 

 

If you want to study bachelor’s degree, i say take both tests.

[millefleur 5,046]

**Moved from Off Topic to Moving to the US and Your New Life In America to be among similar threads on the theme of studying in the US**

Edited April 11, 2019 by millefleur

[VNN 147]

6 hours ago, dza said:

Hello everyone, 

 

I hope someone can answer my question. I am a little confused about what exam test to prepare for. English is my second language, I am living now in the U.S, I already have a bachelor degree from my country, and what I need to know if I am thinking to change career and study here in the U.S what test should I prepare for admission, will it be TOEFL or SAT?

 

thanks!

• If you can tell us your field of study/what degree do you hold and what kind of job you hope you will have then people can guide you better
• SAT is for high school student, you can very much ignore it
• TOEFL may be required if you are internationals student but probably you are green card holder.

Also, it is a myth that one who does not hold a degree from a US school must "re-earn" a degree.  It really depends if the field requires special license. Even if one must go back to school, many classes can be omitted.

Edited April 11, 2019 by VNN

[millefleur 5,046]

Regarding the TOEFL - some LRP's (green card holders) are not even required to take any English tests at all to permitted to a program. My husband studied at the community college here and is currently studying at a local state university for his first Bachelor's degree (he transferred a bunch of credits from Russia but did not complete a degree there) and he did not have to take any English tests at all - not even local ones from the colleges. The English test requirement was dropped because he is an LPR. It was only requied for international students on F-1 visas.

 

Check out what programs/schools you are interested in - ignore the "international student" requirements. You're not international anymore, you're a "US person" as a GC holder. Check to see what is required if English is not your first language.

Edited April 11, 2019 by millefleur

[dza 46]

On 4/10/2019 at 11:05 PM, VNN said:

• If you can tell us your field of study/what degree do you hold and what kind of job you hope you will have then people can guide you better
• SAT is for high school student, you can very much ignore it
• TOEFL may be required if you are internationals student but probably you are green card holder.

Also, it is a myth that one who does not hold a degree from a US school must "re-earn" a degree.  It really depends if the field requires special license. Even if one must go back to school, many classes can be omitted.

so I have a bachelor degree in information system. I am still working on what specific I want to study, but either product development, or Human resources. still trying to find which area I want to study, but while I am working on that, I want as well to prepare myself for the admission requirements, I don't want to wait while I can use time prepare myself for any exam I should take.

 

I am a green card holder, but I am in the process of removal of condition, which is I don't know what should I look for. my green card now expired by I have an extension for 18 month. I live in the states, so i am not an international student, this is what confuses me  

[dza 46]

On 4/10/2019 at 11:09 PM, millefleur said:

Regarding the TOEFL - some LRP's (green card holders) are not even required to take any English tests at all to permitted to a program. My husband studied at the community college here and is currently studying at a local state university for his first Bachelor's degree (he transferred a bunch of credits from Russia but did not complete a degree there) and he did not have to take any English tests at all - not even local ones from the colleges. The English test requirement was dropped because he is an LPR. It was only requied for international students on F-1 visas.

 

Check out what programs/schools you are interested in - ignore the "international student" requirements. You're not international anymore, you're a "US person" as a GC holder. Check to see what is required if English is not your first language.

Maybe because your husband studied first in a community college so he did not have to have any test for admission?!

i will try to find out what is the requirement for me, because now i am in the removal of condition process, so my green card expired but i have an extension letter. 

thanks for the information it is very helpful!

[dza 46]

On 4/10/2019 at 8:21 PM, arken said:

TOEFL- for sure as most schools (if not all) mandate people from non native English speaking countries to have TOEFL score. 

 

SAT- Even students from US take this exam coz this is a measure of one’s strength in various categories specially if you want to go to good schools. There are colleges where you need certain SAT score just to be even considered for admission while some don’t require at all. 

 

If you want to study bachelor’s degree, i say take both tests.

i think SAT for undergraduate, for students just finished high school. what i am doubting is that i have to take TOEFL because English is my second language. 

thanks so much for the info, i think it is helpful 

[millefleur 5,046]

Just now, dza said:

Maybe because your husband studied first in a community college so he did not have to have any test for admission?!

i will try to find out what is the requirement for me, because now i am in the removal of condition process, so my green card expired but i have an extension letter. 

thanks for the information it is very helpful!

Nope, my husband studies currently at the state university here. He transferred from the community college...the state university did not require any English tests either because as a green card holder he is considered a "US Person" and I guess they just assume knowing English is part of that. Not sure if this is just an Oregon thing, but it might be. Definitely check with your local university just to make sure.

[aaron2020 11,651]

What you need will be school specific.  You need to contact the schools for their specific requirements.

 

LPRs do not need to take the TOEFL.

 

Some colleges will require either the SAT or ACT.

 

Some colleges like community colleges don't require anything except a green card and proof of in-state residency (driver's license). 

 

Colleges may make you take placement tests to see which classes you qualify for.  

[VNN 147]

4 minutes ago, dza said:

so I have a bachelor degree in information system. I am still working on what specific I want to study, but either product development, or Human resources. still trying to find which area I want to study, but while I am working on that, I want as well to prepare myself for the admission requirements, I don't want to wait while I can use time prepare myself for any exam I should take.

 

I am a green card holder, but I am in the process of removal of condition, which is I don't know what should I look for. my green card now expired by I have an extension for 18 month. I live in the states, so i am not an international student, this is what confuses me  

• You are NOT an international student. With your extension letter, you are still a legal permanent resident.
• Requirements may depend on your chosen field and what school you want to go. You should contact a school you would like to apply and ask for the requirements. A direct confirmation from the school you would like to apply will help you eliminate some affords. 

[dza 46]

6 minutes ago, millefleur said:

Nope, my husband studies currently at the state university here. He transferred from the community college...the state university did not require any English tests either because as a green card holder he is considered a "US Person" and I guess they just assume knowing English is part of that. Not sure if this is just an Oregon thing, but it might be. Definitely check with your local university just to make sure.

that is truly very helpful, I will do that for sure. i am very interested to know.

if you don't mind just curious what is the major your husband studies?

[dza 46]

2 minutes ago, VNN said:

• You are NOT an international student. With your extension letter, you are still a legal permanent resident.
• Requirements may depend on your chosen field and what school you want to go. You should contact a school you would like to apply and ask for the requirements. A direct confirmation from the school you would like to apply will help you eliminate some affords. 

that's a very good idea, so even if I did not figure out what I want to study, I can contact them to have an idea about their requirements.

thanks so much

[millefleur 5,046]

2 minutes ago, dza said:

that is truly very helpful, I will do that for sure. i am very interested to know.

if you don't mind just curious what is the major your husband studies?

He's a Computer Science major/Math minor, doing a Bachelor of Science. He was a med student in Russia and transferred over into the BS program after they accepted a bunch of his science credits from Russia.

[dza 46]

1 minute ago, millefleur said:

He's a Computer Science major/Math minor, doing a Bachelor of Science. He was a med student in Russia and transferred over into the BS program after they accepted a bunch of his science credits from Russia.

 

2 minutes ago, millefleur said:

He's a Computer Science major/Math minor, doing a Bachelor of Science. He was a med student in Russia and transferred over into the BS program after they accepted a bunch of his science credits from Russia.

thanks for the info, i can't wait to find what exactly i want to study and enter the school 

thanks again