US/UK Dual Citizenship

[CharlieTanger 76]

Hi all! 

 

Totally new new to the Citizenship portion of our immigration journey! My spouse just received the 10-year GC and is about to begin the Citizenship application. 

 

My question is, is my spouse able to retain UK citizenship when talking citizenship oath to the US? If so, is there another route we have to take when applying for Citizenship? Do we have to inform the UK? Does anyone have to know on the application that my spouse wants dual citizenship? How does this all work? 

 

Any information would be greatly appreciated!   

[Lemon23 400]

Once your spouse took the oath taking, your spouse automatically withdrawn the UK citizenship, you have to call your local embassy on how to retain your spouse UK citizen and if UK is allowed for dual citizenship

[yuna628 9,671]

30 minutes ago, CharlieTanger said:

Hi all! 

 

Totally new new to the Citizenship portion of our immigration journey! My spouse just received the 10-year GC and is about to begin the Citizenship application. 

 

My question is, is my spouse able to retain UK citizenship when talking citizenship oath to the US? If so, is there another route we have to take when applying for Citizenship? Do we have to inform the UK? Does anyone have to know on the application that my spouse wants dual citizenship? How does this all work? 

 

Any information would be greatly appreciated!   

Once becoming a citizen of the US you will forever be a dual citizen (that means you will also retain your UK citizenship). No one may take your UK citizenship away from you unless you revoke it (a formal legal paperwork process which has nothing to do with the Oath taken in the US), or HRH or Her Majesty's government removes it from you (and if that happens you'd probably be a very bad person). My GGama was a triple citizen and my great uncle was a dual citizen. Had my grandmother gone through the process, she'd have also been a dual citizen.

 

You will have both passports (so maintain both and keep 'em current) and you will use them during travel. One to enter and the other to leave and vice versa. You may go through both citizen lines upon entry at each country. The only qualms and misconceptions some have about is the Oath that you must take when becoming a US citizen. While the wording implication implies loyalty to the US only, it is a formality and the right to be a dual citizen is maintained and a matter of settled law. The US doesn't recognize other citizenships, but it does not stop or prevent you from being one. The only issue or conflict that would arise is for those that live in countries where they would automatically lose their original citizenship (doesn't apply to the UK though) or for those that would then be taxed on worldwide funds (which should not be an issue unless you have a lot of income coming in from abroad). You may continue to vote in UK elections for about 15 years iirc and for now at least you also still have right of free-movement that all EU citizens enjoy (until the UK figures out what they will do about that).

1 minute ago, Lemon23 said:

Once your spouse took the oath taking, your spouse automatically withdrawn the UK citizenship, you have to call your local embassy on how to retain your spouse UK citizen and if UK is allowed for dual citizenship

Not true whatsoever. A UK citizenship is never revoked or withdrawn. It is always maintained.

Edited April 9, 2019 by yuna628

[CharlieTanger 76]

2 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Once becoming a citizen of the US you will forever be a dual citizen (that means you will also retain your UK citizenship). No one may take your UK citizenship away from you unless you revoke it, or HRH or Her Majesty's government removes it from you (and if that happens you'd probably be a very bad person). My GGama was a triple citizen and my great uncle was a dual citizen. Had my grandmother gone through the process, she'd have also been a dual citizen.

 

You will have both passports (so maintain both and keep 'em current) and you will use them during travel. One to enter and the other to leave and vice versa. You may go through both citizen lines upon entry at each country. The only qualms and misconceptions some have about is the Oath that you must take when becoming a US citizen. While the wording implication implies loyalty to the US only, it is a formality and the right to be a dual citizen is maintained and a matter of settled law. The US doesn't recognize other citizenships, but it does not stop or prevent you from being one. The only issue or conflict that would arise is for those that live in countries where they would automatically lose their original citizenship (doesn't apply to the UK though) or for those that would then be taxed on worldwide funds (which should not be an issue unless you have a lot of income coming in from abroad). You may continue to vote in UK elections for about 15 years iirc and for now at least you also still have right of free-movement that all EU citizens enjoy (until the UK figures out what they will do about that).

Hi yuna! Nice seeing you around again! That was very informative. 

[Lemon23 400]

1 minute ago, yuna628 said:

Not true whatsoever. A UK citizenship is never revoked or withdrawn. It is always maintained.

There you go, in my country it is automatic and we have to apply again on our embassy to retain our original citizenship to make it dual.

[yuna628 9,671]

1 minute ago, CharlieTanger said:

Hi yuna! Nice seeing you around again! That was very informative. 

Hi Charlie, hope it helps. My husband also reminded me that his uncle is also a dual citizen (UK/US).

 

[aaron2020 11,651]

6 minutes ago, Lemon23 said:

There you go, in my country it is automatic and we have to apply again on our embassy to retain our original citizenship to make it dual.

Your country.  Every country is different.  So be careful when you advise someone not from your country that they would lose their original citizenship.  Be careful when offering advice that affect people's lives.  

[Lemon23 400]

4 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

Your country.  Every country is different.  So be careful when you advise someone not from your country that they would lose their original citizenship.  Be careful when offering advice that affect people's lives.  

That is why I even mentioned to call their embassy to make sure if they are allowed to have dual citizenship and how to retain the UK citizenship, isn't that was a good advice? Read carefully before making a comment as well. LOL!

Edited April 9, 2019 by Lemon23

[aaron2020 11,651]

27 minutes ago, Lemon23 said:

That is why I even mentioned to call their embassy to make sure if they are allowed to have dual citizenship and how to retain the UK citizenship, isn't that was a good advice? Read carefully before making a comment as well. LOL!

No, telling someone to call their embassy is not good advice when you stated "Once your spouse took the oath taking, your spouse automatically withdrawn the UK citizenship, you have to call your local embassy on how to retain your spouse UK citizen and if UK is allowed for dual citizenship" 

 

Really?  Automatic withdraw UK citizenship?  Calling local embassy to retain UK citizenship?  Having to ask if UK allows dual citizenship . . . why because Google doesn't work?  

 

You did ZERO research.  You gave bad advice based on your country and applied your country's laws to the UK. 

 

Good grief.   

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[USS_Voyager 1,972]

Every country is different. From the US perspective, the US does NOT care if their citizens carry another citizenship. In the US Government's eyes, the person will be treated as a US citizen upon naturalization and will have all the rights, privileges and responsibilities thereto appertaining. 

 

Some countries share the same view of the US, they don't care either, if their citizens obtain another citizenship else where. My "old" country, Vietnam, for example, is one of those. The fact that I became a US citizen is immaterial to them, couldn't care less. To the Vietnamese Government, I am a Vietnamese citizen and still have all the rights, privileges and responsibilities of a Vietnamese citizen.

 

Some other countries specifically prohibit their citizens to have another citizenship and obtaining another citizenship will result in an automatic loss of their home country's citizenship. For example: Japan, China (exception for Hong Kong and Macau), India, Nepal... One Nepali member reported if he gets caught entering or leaving Nepal with a foreign passport, he may be put in jail for several days... 

 

Some countries allow dual citizenship, but restrict the rights of dual citizens:

-in Egypt dual citizens cannot be elected to Parliament;

-in Israel, members of Parliament must renounce any other citizenship before taking their seat in the Knesset;

-in New Zealand, dual citizens may be elected to Parliament, but MPs once elected may not voluntarily become a citizen of another country, or take any act to have their foreign nationality recognised such as applying for a foreign passport. 

-In the Philippines, dual citizens may not run for any local elective office.

 

And the list goes on  and on and on....

 

So, in short, it is complicated. Know the laws of both countries is key. 

Edited April 9, 2019 by USS_Voyager

[Lemon23 400]

5 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

You did ZERO research.  You gave bad advice based on your country and applied your country's laws to the UK. 

I don't research if I'm not  belong for that country, its a waste of time. I only do research what is applicable to me. So this line is irrelevant to me LOL!

[aaron2020 11,651]

Just now, Lemon23 said:

I don't research if I'm not  belong for that country, its a waste of time. I only do research what is applicable to me. So this line is irrelevant to me LOL!

Giving bad immigration advice that may scare someone is irrelevant to you.  You are a winner.  

[Lemon23 400]

1 minute ago, aaron2020 said:

Giving bad immigration advice that may scare someone is irrelevant to you.  You are a winner.  

I don't mean to scare anyone beside what's wrong of telling OP to call their embassy which is I believe OPs will get concrete answer than asking people here on the forum. Don't you think that's not a good advise? GO figure LOL!

Edited April 9, 2019 by Lemon23

[aaron2020 11,651]

2 minutes ago, Lemon23 said:

I don't mean to scare anyone beside what's wrong of telling OP to call their embassy which is I believe OPs will get concrete answer than asking people here on the forum. Don't you think that's not a good advise? GO figure LOL!

If you don't trust the people here on the forum, then why bother coming here for help?  The reason people don't trust people on this forum is because of people like you who don't do research, scare people with bad advice, and have no remorse for your bad actions.  

 

Give horrible advice.  "Call a lawyer or call the embassy" to check isn't good advice after you scare them.  

[Lemon23 400]

4 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

If you don't trust the people here on the forum, then why bother coming here for help?  The reason people don't trust people on this forum is because of people like you who don't do research, scare people with bad advice, and have no remorse for your bad actions.  

 

Give horrible advice.  "Call a lawyer or call the embassy" to check isn't good advice after you scare them.  

Well this forum was very helpful for me and I only take good advises and trash that are not relevant to me. If you think my advise was horrible then fine. I think people here should be thankful enough that people give advises whether good or bad. It's a matter on how people accept it or not. 

Edited April 9, 2019 by Lemon23