Is this housing discrimination?

[The_Empyrean 733]

This isn't discrimination.......... Don't use that for everything you get denied for........

Policies vary from company to company. SSN takes around 3 -6 weeks to be verified, officially SSA officers are told to report 2-3weeks. Spoke with 3 different SSA officers and one manager/supervisor. Last two were nice enough to explain the whole process. Did you apply as soon as you came on K1? If it's 2 weeks or less on i-94 left, or you got married before applying, then forget the SSN. If you did apply before marriage and as soon as you came, you should expect it soon. Check SAVE system for status.

Discrimination is singling out someone or some group because of their difference. Company following their policies according to law isn't discrimination, and using that word with that company, might them not to want you even more. if You think that landlord is discriminating, Then DMV is discriminating too, along with banks, insurance companies and so on, because all of them require SSN/ EAD too.

[Cheschirecat 176]

13 hours ago, Meryem467 said:

Yes, they want the SSN for the background check. I have explained our situation, that he is here legally and we can show them all the paperwork, but they still just say no. 

 

It definitely feels like discrimination because how is a new immigrant supposed to find housing if property management companies are allowed to never lease to anyone without a SSN? 

 

In any case, if anyone has any helpful ideas that would be great. 

Can you just get the apartment on your own?  Ask them exactly why they need his SS. Is it for background check or financial responsibility. We had a small issue in TN. My bank wouldn’t notarize something for my immigrant Nigerian fiancé (at the time) it was due to lack of knowledge and I reported the incident and they had re-training.  Best of luck! 

[Cheschirecat 176]

7 minutes ago, PaulMac said:

This isn't discrimination.......... Don't use that for everything you get denied for........

Policies vary from company to company. SSN takes around 3 -6 weeks to be verified, officially SSA officers are told to report 2-3weeks. Spoke with 3 different SSA officers and one manager/supervisor. Last two were nice enough to explain the whole process. Did you apply as soon as you came on K1? If it's 2 weeks or less on i-94 left, or you got married before applying, then forget the SSN. If you did apply before marriage and as soon as you came, you should expect it soon. Check SAVE system for status.

Discrimination is singling out someone or some group because of their difference. Company following their policies according to law isn't discrimination, and using that word with that company, might them not to want you even more. if You think that landlord is discriminating, Then DMV is discriminating too, along with banks, insurance companies and so on, because all of them require SSN/ EAD too.

ALL Insurance companies and banks do not require SS. My husband has a bank, life insurance, health insurance, auto insurance and no SS yet 

[Crazy Cat 41,851]

4 minutes ago, Cheschirecat said:

Can you just get the apartment on your own?

The apartment management companies with whom I have dealt all required ALL occupants and leasees to have a background check and credit check.

Edited April 5, 2019 by missileman

[Cheschirecat 176]

Just now, missileman said:

The apartment management company with whom I have dealt all required ALL occupants and leasees to have a background check and credit check.

Wow! Then they are in for a rough time 

[The_Empyrean 733]

2 minutes ago, Cheschirecat said:

ALL Insurance companies and banks do not require SS. My husband has a bank, life insurance, health insurance, auto insurance and no SS yet 

 

11 minutes ago, PaulMac said:

This isn't discrimination.......... Don't use that for everything you get denied for........

Policies vary from company to company. SSN takes around 3 -6 weeks to be verified, officially SSA officers are told to report 2-3weeks. Spoke with 3 different SSA officers and one manager/supervisor. Last two were nice enough to explain the whole process. Did you apply as soon as you came on K1? If it's 2 weeks or less on i-94 left, or you got married before applying, then forget the SSN. If you did apply before marriage and as soon as you came, you should expect it soon. Check SAVE system for status.

Discrimination is singling out someone or some group because of their difference. Company following their policies according to law isn't discrimination, and using that word with that company, might them not to want you even more. if You think that landlord is discriminating, Then DMV is discriminating too, along with banks, insurance companies and so on, because all of most of them require SSN/ EAD too.

 

Edited April 5, 2019 by PaulMac

[Crazy Cat 41,851]

1 minute ago, Cheschirecat said:

Wow! Then they are in for a rough time 

Not at all........there was normally a waiting list for apartments...........

[The_Empyrean 733]

@Cheschirecatwait.. How did you get auto insurance without having state DL? NJ DMV's wont even talk without EAD, insurance company can't add someone without state issued drivers' licence.

[Chris Duffy 1,257]

3 minutes ago, PaulMac said:

@Cheschirecatwait.. How did you get auto insurance without having state DL? NJ DMV's wont even talk without EAD, insurance company can't add someone without state issued drivers' licence.

Texas you don't need  DL to get auto insurance

 

Ads all over the places in cities that have large number of Illegal aliens that put ads and billboards out advertising 

 

 

[The_Empyrean 733]

2 minutes ago, Chris Duffy said:

Texas you don't need  DL to get auto insurance

 

Ads all over the places in cities that have large number of Illegal aliens that put ads and billboards out advertising 

 

 

And Murphy says "NJ is a immigrant sanctuary state".. MHM..
Thanks for clarifying, wasn't aware, as the other person has nothing in his timeline/flag/location.

[Crazy Cat 41,851]

5 minutes ago, Chris Duffy said:

Texas you don't need  DL to get auto insurance

 

Ads all over the places in cities that have large number of Illegal aliens that put ads and billboards out advertising 

 

 

But a person must prove legal presence to get a driver's license.

[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

1 hour ago, missileman said:

With what other sources can a landlord run a criminal background check or a credit check?

This. I recently got a job offer. They needed my name, DOB and SSN in order to run a background check. Running a credit check on a brand new immigrant would not yield results but they may want to do it, just in case, anyway.

[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

The one company I talked to (company policies depend on the specific company) required spouses to both be on the lease.

[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

23 minutes ago, Cheschirecat said:

ALL Insurance companies and banks do not require SS. My husband has a bank, life insurance, health insurance, auto insurance and no SS yet 

Exactly. You can get car insurance without a driver's license or an SSN.

[Crazy Cat 41,851]

Just now, EM_Vandaveer said:

This. I recently got a job offer. They needed my name, DOB and SSN in order to run a background check. Running a credit check on a brand new immigrant would not yield results but they may want to do it, just in case, anyway.

Correct.  My wife arrived in the US on 6/22/17.....she received her SS card on 7/3/17..........we signed a new apartment lease on 7/9/17.........there was no issue with the background check.....