Strong ties to home country - meaning ...

[didi&bebe 0]

Hi everyone,

 

I just talked to my brother in Germany and his US visitors visa was denied. The reason he applied is to attend my wedding in May (I am a US citizen). He is a citizen of Bulgaria but resides in Germany permanently. He moved there recently for a job and had all the documents listed to present to the officer:

* address registration in Germany

* employment contract with the same company my dad works for

* bank account with enough money to travel

* plane ticket on the same reservation as the rest of my family 

* wedding invitation

THE OFFICER DID NOT EVEN LOOK AT HIS PAPERWORK!!! None of it! Only the passport...

He is not married neither has kids which is not crazy for his late 20s. I am just not sure what does “strong ties to the home country” mean? Being old, married and own property? How do they determine the strength of his ties by looking at his passport only? Are there any steps that I can take further? I have requested an appointment with our senator in the state I live in in hopes that he might be able to help. I have a friend who met with the senator in his state and his mother in law was able to get a visa somehow. She was in her late 50s, married and had another child and grandchildren back in Bulgaria. Owned her apartment with her husband. She was trying to come and help with childcare for her new granddaughter in the US. Visa was initially denied and approved after the senator did what was in his power. I am very confused! 

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

I'm sorry to read this, but there is nothing you can do..period......the officers are not required to look at any documentation....your Senator can not help.  Senators don't have the power to change a CO decision.   The COs make their decision based on the DS-160....It is just not easy to get a tourist visa in the US........thanks to those who have abused the system in the past.........

Edited April 3, 2019 by missileman

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

Don’t expect miracles from the senator. Look up “consular nonreviewability”. 

 

Yes, sorry for your brother but this has happened to many people. Law means presumption of immigrant intent. Weak ties is a problem and a recent move to a new country doesn’t help. 

 

By the way there is no “list of documents “, not sure what that means??

Edited April 3, 2019 by SusieQQQ

[Chris Duffy 1,257]

Strong ties is just a loophole to deny tourist visas.

 

 

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

1 minute ago, Chris Duffy said:

Strong ties is just a loophole to deny tourist visas.

 

 

Is that supposed to be a joke?

[didi&bebe 0]

4 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Don’t expect miracles from the senator. Look up “consular nonreviewability”. 

 

Yes, sorry for your brother but this has happened to many people. Law means presumption of immigrant intent. Weak ties is a problem and a recent move to a new country doesn’t help. 

 

By the way there is no “list of documents “, not sure what that means??

By “list” I mean the ones I have listed with * below. There is not an official list of documents you have to present, I know that. I just wonder what is the source of their information. My mom applied for her visa in Bulgaria and literally had a two question interview followed by immediate approval. My dad applied in Bulgaria after he moved to Germany (he traveled back just for the interview) and was working there for almost a year. They didn’t even talk to him and approved him on the spot... 

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

1 minute ago, didi&bebe said:

I just wonder what is the source of their information.

She completed an application, didn't she?

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

3 minutes ago, missileman said:

Is that supposed to be a joke?

According to some people it’s all a scam to collect visa fees 🙄

[didi&bebe 0]

Just now, missileman said:

She completed an application, didn't she?

They all did. But there’s not a lot of information in the DS-160 form. Nothing about kids, work, property and financial situation. In my opinion that’s “strong ties” 

[Chris Duffy 1,257]

4 minutes ago, missileman said:

Is that supposed to be a joke?

Not at all

 

I have seen my wife relatives and friend with strong ties and get denied, and I have seen others with identical ties and get approved.

 

No Rhyme or reason, Had a US Citizen do a letter saying he would take care of all expenses and boom approved for a herd of people from Philippines.  Figure that one out

[didi&bebe 0]

2 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

According to some people it’s all a scam to collect visa fees 🙄

I am starting to believe that this is true!

[didi&bebe 0]

1 minute ago, Chris Duffy said:

Not at all

 

I have seen my wife relatives and friend with strong ties and get denied, and I have seen others with identical ties and get approved.

 

No Rhyme or reason, Had a US Citizen do a letter saying he would take care of all expenses and boom approved for a herd of people from Philippines.  Figure that one out

One of my friends from Bulgaria, the same age as my brother, got a visa last year with no problem. She is not married, no property or kids... her family had one reservation ticket to come visit her brother who is a US citizen. Exactly the same situation.

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

Just now, didi&bebe said:

One of my friends from Bulgaria, the same age as my brother, got a visa last year with no problem. She is not married, no property or kids... her family had one reservation ticket to come visit her brother who is a US citizen. Exactly the same situation.

From where did these people with approved visas apply?   Bulgaria or Germany?

[didi&bebe 0]

16 minutes ago, missileman said:

From where did these people with approved visas apply?   Bulgaria or Germany?

My friend applied and was approved in Bulgaria where she lives and works. My other friend lives and works in Austria where she applied and got approved last week. My brother lives and works in Germany. He applied today and got denied. All Bulgarian ln citizens. 

Edited April 3, 2019 by didi&bebe

[Boiler 45,486]

51 minutes ago, didi&bebe said:

 

* address registration in Germany

* employment contract with the same company my dad works for

* bank account with enough money to travel

* plane ticket on the same reservation as the rest of my family 

* wedding invitation

 

 

Presumably he had an address, job and bank account in Bulgaria and left to go to Germany.

 

Never buy a ticket without permission to travel, Embassy says not to.