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The US Humane Society released a sickening surveillance video this week, showing a father and son from Alaska illegally killing a black bear and her two newly-born cubs — while they were still hibernating inside their den.

 

“They’ll never be able to link it to us,” the son, Owen Renner, can be heard saying on video after taking out the mama bear and her offspring.

 

The footage was filmed in April 2018 and released Wednesday by the Alaska Department of Public Safety after a public records request was made by the Humane Society.

 

Renner, 18, and his dad, Andrew, 41, were skiing in a remote area of Esther Island in Prince William Sound when they “illegally slaughtered” the family of “hibernating black bears,” according to officials.

 

“Their despicable actions were captured on a wildlife camera, set up by the US Forest Service and the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, to study the bears,” the Humane Society said. “The haunting video footage shows the men creeping up to the bears’ winter den and shooting the mother as her two babies shriek in fear, until more shots pierce the air.”

 

Hunting a mother bear with cubs — or even just the cubs themselves — is illegal in the Esther Island area, according to officials.

 

“But that didn’t stop the Renners from murdering innocent animals, posing for a picture with the dead mother on the bloodstained snow and smugly stating, ‘We go where we want to kill,'” the Humane Society blasted.

 

Andrew and Owen Renner later plead guilty to illegally killing the bears. They both received jail time and had their hunting licensees suspended after admitting that they destroyed evidence and presented the adult carcass as a legal kill to the Alaskan wildlife agency.

 

According to officials, Andrew was sentenced to three months in jail and fined $9,000. He was also forced to forfeit some of his personal property — including a 22-foot boat, his vehicle and various weapons. Owen was 17 at the time and sentenced to community service.

 

“Justice was served — but these animals deserve more respect and compassion,” the Humane Society said. “Federal law currently forbids this practice on national preserves in Alaska, but the current administration is looking to remove such prohibitions. If this heinous cruelty occurs while protections are already in place, overturning them would all but encourage these massacres to continue.”

 

 

https://nypost.com/2019/03/28/haunting-video-shows-father-and-son-illegally-kill-hibernating-bear-cubs/

 

uh, justice was served? 3 months? what a joke. I'd give them a year for each year they took away from the cubs and mom. How disgusting.

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1 hour ago, OriZ said:

shooting the mother as her two babies shriek in fear

Nothing like watching your parent get it before you get it yourself.

Evil cowards.

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5 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Nothing like watching your parent get it before you get it yourself.

Evil cowards.

Looking forward to the day they treat crimes against animals the same way they do humans. You have people like ross ulbricht sitting in prison while people like that basically got away scot free...what an upside down world

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Not even going to watch that video....

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Wow. Justice was NOT served. At least their full names were released - I can only hope their social reputation has taken a hit, which is the only piece of fairness in any of this.

 

Horrible, disgusting people. Those poor babies.

Håll ut, y'all.

 

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1 hour ago, ALFKAD said:

Alaska don't play.  Glad they got caught.  Dad got what was coming to him, but I feel the son got off too easy.

Apparently Alaska does play, they both got off way too easy. They deserve years.

16 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Me either. 15 years apiece should be about right

Yes that would be much more appropriate.

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It is sad that there are folks out there like these two.  I am no psychologist, but doesn't gleefully killing defenseless animals often lead to worse items.  Personally, I will not watch the video, and I do think these guys got off way too easy.  I am not sure if 15 years is the right number, but it should have been more and the 17 year old should not have been treated as a child.

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On 3/29/2019 at 12:17 PM, Bill & Katya said:

It is sad that there are folks out there like these two.  I am no psychologist, but doesn't gleefully killing defenseless animals often lead to worse items.  Personally, I will not watch the video, and I do think these guys got off way too easy.  I am not sure if 15 years is the right number, but it should have been more and the 17 year old should not have been treated as a child.

I agree, and I also wouldn't be surprised if they do this again(before doing something worse) because they basically saw you can get away with it. It's really a pathetic sentence.

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I disagree.  Not saying the jail time shouldn't have been more for the dad, but the son was a minor.  What else could they have done?

 

If I lost a vehicle and guns and other stuff that could potentially be $25-50K in value,  i think i would choose to never do it again.  Then again, i am a bit smarter than the average bear (killer).

 

If they had shot a buck that was sleeping in a field from 200 yards away, would they deserve 15 years of jail time?

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20 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

I disagree.  Not saying the jail time shouldn't have been more for the dad, but the son was a minor.  What else could they have done?

 

If I lost a vehicle and guns and other stuff that could potentially be $25-50K in value,  i think i would choose to never do it again.  Then again, i am a bit smarter than the average bear (killer).

 

If they had shot a buck that was sleeping in a field from 200 yards away, would they deserve 15 years of jail time?

Minors have been given much harsher sentences for much lesser(imo) offenses.

 

We're not comparing this to legally hunting one sleeping buck/bear. We're talking about illegally murdering a mama bear and her cubs. To answer your question - if they shot a whole family of sleeping deer illegally, then yes, they would deserve 15 years of jail time.

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21 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

bit smarter than the average bear (killer).

 

 

lol i read that in Yogi Bear's voice

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