Driver's License

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19 hours ago, Boiler said:

[pending AOS application] in most States that is not relevant for DL purposes.

Are you sure about "most states"?  Pending any definite research I would think that most states just adopt the federal RealID criteria:

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(B) EVIDENCE OF LAWFUL STATUS- A State shall require, before issuing a driver's license or identification card to a person, valid documentary evidence that the person--

(ix) has a pending application for adjustment of status to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States or conditional permanent resident status in the United States.

 

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Some States allow adjustees a license based on adjusting, most do not.

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An off-topic, stereotyping post has been removed.

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18 hours ago, Boiler said:

As a visitor, this thread is about Residents.

As a resident you can still drive up to 1 year after you move here with a foreign DL in PA. It's based on your I-94. But most states don't allow this

Edited March 23, 2019 by C90

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3 minutes ago, C90 said:

As a resident you can still drive up to 1 year after you move here with a foreign DL in PA. It's based on your I-94. But most states don't allow this

Nope, well no State I know of allows that.

 

A K1 I 94 is 90 days.

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6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Nope, well no State I know of allows that.

 

A K1 I 94 is 90 days.

I live in PA, entered on a K1 visa and am allowed to drive up to 1 year with a foreign license combined with an international license.

 

Lived in PA 5 years ago as an au pair, got pulled over multiple times cause my host dad made me drive a car with expired inspection, and every officer confirmed that I was perfectly legal to drive up to 1 year with my foreign license combined with an international license.

 

Got my USA DL a few weeks ago (PA allows people waiting for AOS to get a USA DL for 1 year) and the DMV confirmed that I was perfectly legal to drive with my foreign license  combined with an international license up to 1 year. I even drove myself to my driving test, it's perfectly legal in PA.

 

Most states don't allow it, PA is very relaxed when it comes to driving. And yes, the I-94 is valid for 90 days, but the moment the I-94 starts is the moment the 12 month clock starts ticking for your foreign license.

Edited March 23, 2019 by C90

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2 minutes ago, C90 said:

I live in PA, entered on a K1 visa and am allowed to drive up to 1 year with a foreign license combined with an international license.

 

Lived in PA 5 years ago as an au pair, got pulled over multiple times cause my host dad made me drive a car with expired inspection, and every officer confirmed that I was perfectly legal to drive up to 1 year with my foreign license combined with an international license.

 

Got my USA DL a few weeks ago (PA allows people waiting for AOS to get a USA DL for 1 year) and the DMV confirmed that I was perfectly legal to drive with my foreign license  combined with an international license up to 1 year. I even drove myself to my driving test, it's perfectly legal in PA.

 

Most states don't allow it, PA is very relaxed when it comes to driving.

"All new residents with out-of-state non-commercial driver's licenses must obtain a PA Driver's License within 60 days of establishing Pennsylvania residency."

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3 minutes ago, missileman said:

"All new residents with out-of-state non-commercial driver's licenses must obtain a PA Driver's License within 60 days of establishing Pennsylvania residency."

Yes, that's OUT OF STATE. I am talking about a FOREIGN license

 

5. Can I drive in Pennsylvania with my Foreign Driver's License?
Individuals who possess a valid foreign driver's license from their country are authorized to drive in Pennsylvania for up to one year from their date of entry into the United States, or upon expiration of their foreign license, whichever comes first. International driving permits are strongly recommended, but not required.

Edited March 23, 2019 by C90

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5 minutes ago, C90 said:

Yes, that's OUT OF STATE. I am talking about a FOREIGN license

I think that is intended for foreign students, etc. who are visiting.......you, on the other hand, have established residency......

 

 

"out of country" equals "out of state"........

Edited March 23, 2019 by missileman

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5 minutes ago, missileman said:

I think that is intended for foreign students, etc. who are visiting.......you, on the other hand, have established residency......

Nope, doesn't matter. As said, I even asked the DMV if I was allowed to drive (explained the whole AOS situation) and they confirmed multiple times it's perfectly fine. Also, in the text I posted it doesn't say you have to be a student or anything.

 

Is it a good idea to get your PA DL asap? Yeah, absolutely! I mean, who doesn't want their PA DL once they move here? Is it required? Not for 1 year (or if your foreign DL expires before that)

 

5. Can I drive in Pennsylvania with my Foreign Driver's License?
Individuals who possess a valid foreign driver's license from their country are authorized to drive in Pennsylvania for up to one year from their date of entry into the United States, or upon expiration of their foreign license, whichever comes first. International driving permits are strongly recommended, but not required.

Edited March 23, 2019 by C90

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1 minute ago, C90 said:

Nope, doesn't matter. As said, I even asked the DMV if I was allowed to drive (explained the whole AOS situation) and they confirmed multiple times it's perfectly fine. Also, in the text I posted it doesn't say you have to be a student or anything.

 

5. Can I drive in Pennsylvania with my Foreign Driver's License?
Individuals who possess a valid foreign driver's license from their country are authorized to drive in Pennsylvania for up to one year from their date of entry into the United States, or upon expiration of their foreign license, whichever comes first. International driving permits are strongly recommended, but not required.

Come on, now.......does it make any sense that a new resident from another country's license would treated any different from a new resident from New York's license?  A new resident is a new resident......

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4 minutes ago, missileman said:

Come on, now.......does it make any sense that a new resident from another country's license would treated any different from a new resident from New York's license?  A new resident is a new resident......

Guess so. Hey, I didn't make the rules lol. The website clearly states that people with foreign DL's can drive up to 1 year with a foreign DL, so I don't really understand why this has to become a discussion. Fact is, PA allows people that come here from another country to drive up to 1 year with their foreign DL (if it doesn't expire before than). 

 

If you have a DL from another state already than the 60 day rule gets in place. But I'm specifically talking about someone with ONLY a foreign license, not an out of state license (they should be even able to see if you have a DL from another state I'm pretty sure)

 

And I'm also pretty sure that 5 DMV employees that I separately asked this question wouldn't all give the exact same answer if it was actually not true. Again, I explained that I live in PA (not a visitor) and they all said it doesn't matter, you still have a foreign DL so you're good to go.

Edited March 23, 2019 by C90

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1 minute ago, C90 said:

Guess so. Hey, I didn't make the rules lol. The website clearly states that people with foreign DL's can drive up to 1 year with a foreign DL, so I don't really understand why this has to become a discussion. Fact is, PA allows people that come here from another country to drive up to 1 year with their foreign DL (if it doesn't expire before than). 

 

If you have a DL from another state already than the 60 day rule gets in place. But I'm specifically talking about someone with ONLY a foreign license, not an out of state license (they should be even able to see if you have a DL from another state I'm pretty sure)

Sounds like a convenient loop hole....LOL....by the way, it also says that a new resident with a Canadian license has only 60 days.........weird.

 

"People who just moved into Pennsylvania and are establishing Pennsylvania residency - if you hold a valid driver’s license from another state or Canada, you must get a Pennsylvania driver’s license within 60 days after moving to Pennsylvania and surrender your out-of-state driver’s license."

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7 minutes ago, C90 said:

Guess so. Hey, I didn't make the rules lol. The website clearly states that people with foreign DL's can drive up to 1 year with a foreign DL, so I don't really understand why this has to become a discussion. Fact is, PA allows people that come here from another country to drive up to 1 year with their foreign DL (if it doesn't expire before than). 

 

If you have a DL from another state already than the 60 day rule gets in place. But I'm specifically talking about someone with ONLY a foreign license, not an out of state license (they should be even able to see if you have a DL from another state I'm pretty sure)

 

And I'm also pretty sure that 5 DMV employees that I separately asked this question wouldn't all give the exact same answer if it was actually not true. Again, I explained that I live in PA (not a visitor) and they all said it doesn't matter, you still have a foreign DL so you're good to go.

I too was told this exact same information by the DMV office and over the phone to the DMV. I asked if there was a difference between *resident* and *visitor* and they did say no, my UK DL was valid to 1yr in MO. Ultimately, I didn't bother with that as I was skeptical and didn't want to risk being pulled over and having an argument with a state trooper over what the DMV say is legit. I just did my MO DL and drive on that. It took me only a few hours and some pocket change.

 

Like I said earlier in the thread, you can use your foreign license...but there is no reason to - it's not hard or expensive to get a state license and it's a lot more legit. 

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58 minutes ago, missileman said:

I think that is intended for foreign students, etc. who are visiting.......you, on the other hand, have established residency......

https://www.dmv.pa.gov/Driver-Services/New-Resident-Relocation-Information/New Residents/Pages/Info-For-New-Residents.aspx

 

I do not doubt for a minute that places like the DMV can supply contradictory information or that stuff they put on their web site can be misconstrued.

 

And you may be able to use that as a way of mitigating any criminal charges.

 

But do you want to go there?

 

Important to remember that the Supreme Court said you have no right to rely on anything a Government official tells you.