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Can you become an American Citizen through Pastport???

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8 minutes ago, geowrian said:

The naturalization certificate is optional. Other than mounting it on a wall somewhere to show, the passport is a much faster process to get a more useful document proving US citizenship.

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12 minutes ago, alun said:

I didn ' t apply for N - 600 for my children . They just have their American passports and foreign  birth certificates . No problems so far 

 

7 minutes ago, alun said:

Legal Permanent Resident= Green card holder .

 

Good to know now thank you

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32 minutes ago, USS_Voyager said:

So you have a US passport? Then you’re a US citizen. The US passport is proof of US citizenship. Sorry, I didn’t understand what “become a citizen through passport” is.

No, I don’t have my passport yet. I was told that you can get your citizenship through passport. As long as you can proof that your parents are both citizens before I was 18. 

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11 minutes ago, LauraTea said:

No, I don’t have my passport yet. I was told that you can get your citizenship through passport. As long as you can proof that your parents are both citizens before I was 18. 

The passport is just proof of your US citizenship. You already became a US citizen the moment you met all 4 conditions above. 

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9 minutes ago, LauraTea said:

 I don’t quite understand what you mean by you met all four condition above 

The child is under 18 years of age;

The child is a lawful permanent resident (LPR); and

The child is residing in the United States in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent

 

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3 hours ago, LauraTea said:

 I don’t quite understand what you mean by you met all four condition above 

 

3 hours ago, little immigrant said:

The child is under 18 years of age;

The child is a lawful permanent resident (LPR); and

The child is residing in the United States in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent

 

To OP, it means you are already a US citizen through naturalization of your parents (automatically acquired citizenship)

 

There's nothing like citizenship through passport; I think you are confusing the two terms.

 

Again, if you meet the conditions @little immigrant stated when your parents naturalized then you  automatically gained US citizenship. Your parents may have been told this during their naturalization ceremony.

 

Based on what you've said so far it looks like you are a US citizen so you can apply for a US passport using your parents naturalization details.

https://www.uscis.gov/us-citizenship/citizenship-through-parents

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/Child-Citizenship-2000-Sections-320-322-INA.html

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, LauraTea said:

 I don’t quite understand what you mean by you met all four condition above 

 

8 hours ago, little immigrant said:

The child is under 18 years of age;

The child is a lawful permanent resident (LPR); and

The child is residing in the United States in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent

 

I think many are assuming that you have been here in the physical custody of your parents when they obtained green cards and eventually naturalization and they did not come here first and then apply to bring you over as an LPR. 

 

Assuming that is the case here, I agree with all others, you became a citizen with your parents.

 

Btw, this is what I found related to documentation you need to apply for a passport.  Essentially, you need the same documentation that would be necessary when applying for an N600 certificate, but you don't actually need the certificate.

 

Take the following with you to the application center

  • Proof of Derived Citizenship, including ALL of the items needed for the N-600 application. These things can be proof:
    • A copy of your child’s Permanent Resident Card
    • A copy of your child’s birth certificate If you have one
    • Proof of your (or the other parent’s) U.S. citizenship like a naturalization certificate or passport
    • Proof that the U.S. citizen parent is the child’s parent, the child lives or lived with that parent and that parent has or had legal custody.

https://www.lawhelpmn.org/self-help-library/fact-sheet/naturalized-us-citizens-proving-your-childs-citizenship

 

Good Luck!

 

 

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1 minute ago, exception1981 said:

You need to get a N-600 process completed. All the other processes are irrelevant and would not make you an US Citizen.

That's incorrect.

One can derive citizenship through parents as noted in the thread already. An N-600 does not make anybody a citizen..it is only evidence of being a US citizen.

A naturalization certificate (via the N-600) is not required. It is 100% optional. It is one form of evidence of being a US citizen.

A passport is also evidence of being a US citizen. Plus it's usable for travel.

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So I had this same problem, I came to the US when I was very little and my parents got their citizenships when I was still a minor (under 18 years of age) and technically I was considered a "citizen" because children under 18 are should automatically become citizens if their parents become one and I was able to get an American passport and everything...BUT some places still require your to have your citizenship CERTIFICATE because when I was in college they said I couldn't use my scholarship that I earned because I didn't own a Citizenship certificate that showed I was a valid Citizen of the US. So that being said if you get the proof of certificates for your children (I believe they cost extra that's why my parents didn't get them for me and my brothers) that should be fine otherwise some places like Universities may require you to get one. Which I did end up doing later on and now I own a citizenship certificate. 

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5 hours ago, Polinachka said:

So I had this same problem, I came to the US when I was very little and my parents got their citizenships when I was still a minor (under 18 years of age) and technically I was considered a "citizen" because children under 18 are should automatically become citizens if their parents become one and I was able to get an American passport and everything...BUT some places still require your to have your citizenship CERTIFICATE because when I was in college they said I couldn't use my scholarship that I earned because I didn't own a Citizenship certificate that showed I was a valid Citizen of the US. So that being said if you get the proof of certificates for your children (I believe they cost extra that's why my parents didn't get them for me and my brothers) that should be fine otherwise some places like Universities may require you to get one. Which I did end up doing later on and now I own a citizenship certificate. 

This seems entirely incorrect a procedure for the school to have done...  A natural born citizen will have no certificate to prove citizenship, other than maybe a birth certificate.  A US Passport is considered to be prima facie evidence of citizenship, and does not require any further proof.  This holds true even if the passport is expired.

 

For instance, the Department of State accepts a "Fully valid, undamaged US Passport (can be expired)" as proof of citizenship:  https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/requirements/citizenship-evidence.html

 

 

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3 minutes ago, jkstark said:

This seems entirely incorrect a procedure for the school to have done...  A natural born citizen will have no certificate to prove citizenship, other than maybe a birth certificate.  A US Passport is considered to be prima facie evidence of citizenship, and does not require any further proof.  This holds true even if the passport is expired.

 

For instance, the Department of State accepts a "Fully valid, undamaged US Passport (can be expired)" as proof of citizenship:  https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/requirements/citizenship-evidence.html

 

 

I was not born in the United States. 

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15 minutes ago, Polinachka said:

I was not born in the United States. 

That does not matter.  If you have a US Passport, then by virtue of having that passport, you are a citizen of the United States.  The passport serves as proof of that citizenship.

 

This is codified in 22 U.S. Code § 2705, though it is a bit more limiting than the DoS clause in that it does not contain the continuance of that proof if the passport has expired.  I did not go any further in researching it, but you can see the references here as well:  https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/2705

 

TL;DR - if you have a valid US passport, you do not need any other documents to prove citizenship.

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